IC/US title unifcation, etc etc.

[S prince]

Its been done before. This could be spamming but maybe not! This board has been saying for months now that we want some credibility to the IC and US title belts, like the old days. Although I do enjoy someone like Kofi Kingston or Rey Meysterio holding the titles, they become easily forgettable as champions.

Now this is a 2 part question.

1. If they were to unify the two titles, what would your name for the title be?
I would literally flip a coin and just choose one of the two names as the name and drop the other title belt.

2. Who would you want to be the guy as the first to hold the unified titles? I think HBK would be the perfect person for it. Lets be honest, he's not going to win a world title so it seems again, nor does he probably care. He used to bring such credibility and star power when he was IC Champ, and more importantly European champ. Put the strap around his waist, he'd treat it like it was the world title and he can have that long awaited feud with JoMo or Swagger, or even higher ups like Jericho.

 

[Mr. Truth]

Raw and Smackdown have their separate midcards. Unification isn't going to help. If you're looking to bring prestige to the belts, you put them in high profile feuds like what they did with Rey Mysterio and Y2J. To make the belts seem like they mean something again, all it takes is feuds like that one and maybe some lengthier reigns. So to answer your question:

1. No, but I would name it the WWE United Heavyweight Title.

2. If I had to give the UHT to someone, it would be Y2J. The man has so much charisma and can still put on great matches, to further add prestige to the belt.

 

[GJM316]

How about calling it the WWE United-Continental championship? But I personally dont think its a good idea anyway, the 2 seperate brands need their own midcard belts each. It works with the tag titles but I doubt it will work with this new meshed title being represented on all 4 shows.

 

[Phoenix]

Where it's not going to happen as th3truthfulness has rightly said. The only way this would work is by dropping the US Title and keeping the IC Title. The IC Title has more history to them than the US Title. I mean they've done unifications before and the IC went on still (until it was unified with the World Title).

Where I agree, Y2J would be a good choice for him, he's already a 9 time IC champion, I'd probably go with someone like Swagger or Ziggler, give them a good reason to push further being the first unified of these two, although if it's still the IC title, it makes little difference.

But technically there is already a first guy for this, Edge! He won the WCW US/WWE IC Unification match during the Alliance angle's end, I'm just saying...

 

[Razor]

1. If they were to unify the two titles, what would your name for the title be?

The "Shit-tastic waste of time belt that is only going to make a smaller mid-card picture" belt. Rather long, but it flows off the tongue once you get used to the name.

2. Who would you want to be the guy as the first to hold the unified titles?

Swagger. Fuck yeah. Not only is he The Two-Time All American American US title holder; he did what the US is supposed to do. Kick some ass abroad. How'd Swagger do it? Win the Intercontinental Title.

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Though, really. It's a horrible idea. Just as merging the shows would crush the main-events together and make the mid-card flounder even more under the now humongous main-event scene. One title is going to crush the mid-cards together in pursuit of that one title.

Now, instead of there being 2 title feuds for the mid-card to build around, you'll have one. and with the size of a roster that the WWE has, you can't pull that off.

 

[StInGeR-HBK]

Unifying the titles is definitely not a good idea. We need to keep these titles seperate and just put them on someone who's is going to defend it on a monthly basis and hold on to it for a good while. That will ad some value to each championship and make it look like people actually want to be the IC/US champ. Right now they have maybe one good feud for the title and then next month, we're back to never seeing the damn thing again. But to answer the 2nd question, if they were to do this, I think a very good choice would be one of the younger guys like Swagger or The Miz. I think these guys are being groomed for the main event scene and a good run as IC or US Champ would really help their case out and set them up for the Main Event Scene. Especially if properly booked.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

Unifying them would not be a good idea at all.They are two different midcards.Mysterio,Jericho,Morrison,Ziggler,and a few others are Smackdown's midcard.Raw has Kofi,Swagger,MVP,Miz,Carlito,Show,and a few others,so,unifying it would make a total clusterfuck of the midcard like,who would hold it,who would be in contention,who would get released,why the hell is the belt unified,why can't we just back to how it was,questions like that.

 

[Cebeards]

sorry, based on the number of mid-card talent; something like this would shut down a lot of wrestlers that may have a real shot in the WWE. I think the safer choice would just be to shake up the title pictures differently.

Put the IC title on Jericho, have him hold the Tag Titles and IC titles for a bit, then have him double booked on a ppv, he loses the Tag Titles and then walk out of his IC match for the intentional count-out; but instead of retaining, he is stripped. Now we have a vacant IC title. Set up a tournament, still keep Jericho in the tournament. Maybe even have him win.

US title picture; if your going to keep Big Show in the picture then have him win it and hold it for a long time. He can be a monster again; coming out each week and defending against anyone who will come out. Then after a few months; maybe even leading into wrestlemania, we finally set up a feud; maybe someone who just barely beats show by countout or DQ. Then we have a fued over a title that actually matters now.

I even think it might be a cool idea to have either a hardcore title (even though vince is out of that game now) or cruiserweight title and have them Tri-branded or just on ECW. It would make it easier to set up new feuds and matches if you had it tri-branded or it would add something extra to ECW.

tag team titles....for now, just keep doing what your doing. I think ted is getting ready for a push, so this Jericho angle seems like the right thing to do for now. I actually think that having a super tag team on Raw would be cool too, take a big name and a mid to uppermid card guy and make a team to feud with Jericho and his buddy for awhile.

 

[Kenny Powers]

The mid card talent is too vast to just have one title. Oh wait I guess they could feud for the ECW title but why the hell would anyone want that? I would like to see just the IC title but like everyone has said before the roster has too much talent to just have one title alone. But if there were a undisputed IC or US Champion I would put it on Swagger or Morrison. Why waste it on Jericho even though he is a great champion but he is too main event to be IC champion again in my eyes. Swagger would definitely be the best choice, I think he's going to pull off the win this Sunday for the U.S title anyways.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I agree and disagree, but what’s new?? I think the Mid – Card Titles could be unified like the Tag Titles, but kept as two separate entities, even for just a few months, like 6. Then the Champ can defend one or both Titles at a time as he chooses. This way, nothing gets messed up as far as the Mid – Card goes for Raw and Smackdown and gives the Champ the privilege to roam around on all three (two if you want to get technical) shows, like Jericho. As a matter of fact, if this were to happen, I’d like to see Jericho do it.

 

[Drew Holiday]

If they unify the mid card titles, they better be ready to end the brand split as well.

They also should be prepared to make the mid card the major part of the show, as 20 people fighting over one mid card title would NOT go well.

But if they did unify them, I know one man to hold the title.....


JACK SWAGGER!

 

[S prince]

i just think the two belts lose their luster when you see one or both of the champions competing at wrestlemania in the money in the bank instead of having their own seperate match to defend their title. whats the point of having the belt at all?

 

[Agent-67]

I think they could keep the IC & US Titles, and have them maintain credibility. However, they need to Unify the World Titles. Having two is stupid, example being boxing, which has like 20 now! The US/IC Titles should stay on whatever show they put them on. They can be like that shows champ. Along with the ECW title, it could be like the old days. They want fans to view Smackdown/ECW & Raw as different brands, well that could be how you do it. Have 1 World Champ, 1 Womens Champ, & 1 Tag Team championship. While the US/IC/ECW are respective champs on their shows. Also let guys hold the belts for longer periods of time. No one is going to tune in just to see a title change anymore, ie CM PUNK. People today care about storylines. Titles need to be rebuilt, all of them. Give credibility by longer title reigns, usually by heels, therefore when the face wins its all the better for the fans.

 

[RKOLEGACYRULZ]

Hell if they can unify tag titles why not unify US/IC Title as well!! DIdn t they once unify the 2 world titles when Chris Jericho held it!!!

 

[Midnight]

Hypothetically speaking of course, I would just drop the US title completely and let Jericho hold the belt. Now, for my real point.

I don't see how unification would help the midcard. Quite the opposite, it would kill the midcard. Midcarders are having a hard enough time breaking into a PPV, and when fall comes around it will be next to impossible without a belt to fight over. Right now things with the titles are as good as possible except maybe the divas title. Honestly, just cutting down the title won't make them prestigous. 2 quick points.

1) Let's look at Raw's midcard for example. Now you have, Kofi, Bourne, MVP, Swagger, Miz, Big Show, apparently Carlito, and possibly Dibiase if he turns face and I could be missing someone easily. Even if MVP and Swagger leave the midcard for the clustered ME that's 5-6 guys at best. We won't really see development, we'll just see random attempts at pushes and a ton of short title reigns which devalues the belt. And if Mysterio, Morrison, and Ziggler are added to that mix that's at best 8-9 guys all in the midcard running for 1 title.

2) WWE unified the tag titles and until Edge and Jericho took them at The Bash, they just withered away on the Colons.

The midcard is clustered enough as it is and the situation is going to be helped by eliminating a belt? Doesn't make too much sense.

I think that any sign of uniting the midcard titles at this time would mean serious trouble for the WWE. Let's leave the belts themselves alone and just simply make the midcard feuds better and make more sense. Longer title reigns with credible superstars. Keep it to about 4-5 guys each brand so something is fresh, lather, rinse, and repeat and we have credible midcard belts.

 

[King Patrick Star]

Did the Brand Split end when the Colons beat M & M?? No. They don’t need to end the Brand Split if the Mid – Card Titles are unified. They could simply do exactly what they are doing now with the Tag Titles. They could even alternate the Mid – Card Championship and the Tag Team Championship after every feud for each show. They could even be featured on ECW for that matter. (Then again I still haven’t seen the Tag Titles on ECW since M & M) The important thing here is they don’t get rid of either one of them. That way, if the split needs to happen again, they can easily (and logically) do it. If they do however, keep the IC and get rid of the US just like before. It’s just an idea. I do like it the way it is now, but I wouldn’t mind the Unification.

Now if they were to Unify to WWE, World and ECW Titles, then you can say bye to the Brand Split (as well as ECW for that matter).

 

[Sasori]

Name for title: I'd name it the WWE Undisputed Mid Card Champion dude title lol no just kidding I'd name it WWE Undisputed Continental Championship. Although the first one is some thing to consider right?

Who I'd put it on: Shawn Michaels. Just like the dude who started this thread, who better than Shawn? He can bring back the prestige. He can steal the show and he will be forced to work a heavier schedule for out entertainment! He's the damn show stopper, and he might actually make the title count as a world championship that can be defended on any brand!

 

[tLight]

1. No I will not come up with a name because there is no reason to make these two titles into one. So we should keep calling them the US title, and the IC title.
2. No one needs to hold such a title, because there doesn’t need to be such a title. So they shall remain on Kingston, and Gay Rey.
Why?
The main reason is because it would leave a vast majority of superstars with nothing to do on both shows, as in they would be unemployed.
I know what you are thinking, “they unified the tag titles why not the US and IC titles?”
The only reason we saw the tag title unified is because of the lack of an active tag team division in the WWE. Vince hates tag team wrestling, so the Tag Team division has suffered over the past 4 years. What could be good keeps getting ruined due to rushed story lines and injuries.
No back to the topic on hand.
Why should the IC and US titles stay on their respective brand you ask is a totally different issue. These two divisions have their own problems, but they would be easily fixable because they have the people to do it. There are plenty of talented individuals on Raw and Smackdown. The middle card is full of bright stars that are fully capable of making these two different divisions on two different shows worth watching.

NO MORE UNIFIED TITLES OR THREADS ABOUT UNIFYING TITLES.

 

[Spillz3000]

I wouldn't unify the belts but maybe allow whoever is IC or US be able to go through all brands. Or at least to shake up the scenes defend against mid-carders from different brands when they're on superstars. If there was somebody who should hold this newly created Transcontinental championship I say give it to William Regal. I'm dead serious too and let him fued with some up and comers.

But the belts I feel that need to be unified are the Women's titles. The women's talent roster isn't that deep that you would need two women's championship. The Women's champion should just be able to be on all three shows. But for sure the Women's championship needs to be unified before the IC/US title. In fact right now I think they are doing fine building up both championships.

 

[I.J.O.B.T.O.Y.O.U.]

The only reason I would want any title, (Besides the Tag Titles) to unify is if the brands were morphing together to make one show. If the mid card titles were unified I dont think anyone would get a push, because there would be so many contenders.

But...

Q1. I think it would probably be called something like the "Waste Talent" Title, because of all of the Mid Card Superstars that would get pushed, fail and get back in line, or for the people who would never get a shot.

Q2. Jericho, no doubt, no need to answer. 9 Time IC Champ, Unified the World Titles, Why not these?