I Like TNA

That's the biggest load of horseshit I've read in quite some time. Anyone with even the slightest semblance of objectivity can tell that the WWE is CLEARLY miles ahead of TNA when it comes to in-ring product, for various reasons. WWE has much more programming per week, so you get way more quality matches on TV in a week than you do on Impact in a month, not to mention WWE's PPVs blow TNA PPVs right the fuck out of the water when it comes to in-ring work. Fuck just look at last week in the WWE, you had a damn good 10 minute title match on RAW between Cena and Miz, you had two good 10 minute plus matches on Superstars, and then you had an awesome 20 minute main event on Smackdown. As opposed to TNA last week which had....what again? Oh right, the usual 4 minute matches that never get any time to develop whatsoever. And when it comes to PPV? Please, not even a contest. Extreme Rules was better than any PPV TNA has had in a long, long, LONG time. Easily better than any PPV that TNA has had since the Fall of 2009. WWE Superstars on average features far more in-ring wrestling than Impact does each week, and that's WWE's C-show, which is half the length that Impact is.

There are plenty of things to like about TNA, but trying to claim the in-ring product is better is so laughably incorrect that I nearly spit up my coffee while reading your post.
Yeah rowingisgod, even I know WWE's in-ring stuff are better than what TNA is putting on. Might not blow TNA out of the water, it's close, but TNA's in-ring stuff are not as good/lenghty than WWE's. Don't get me wrong, TNA does have great matches every now and then, but they're not focused on them. Hopefully things will start changing and TNA will get back to kicking WWE's ass as far as in-ring stuff go once more.
 
no you were merely butthurt and decided to use the same two sad tactics we have all seen time and time again. in case you forgot them, reread my post. dont backstep now and try to ignore you called me out by saying: i was merely directing you to the thread title.

lol im 36 and ive seen it all. on top of that wrestling sucks ass and has, for at the very least, 8 years now. so my days of being a "watch every week and be emotionally invested enough to buy ppv's" days are probably over. when your 36 see how much time you can find to squeeze in wrestling shows full of stars you dont really care about...and for promotions who care even less about themselves. pwr puts out about 3 hrs a week of content and its nice to listen to while doing dishes or yardwork instead of having to sit and suffer through 20 minute long boring promos...and even those spend half of their time needlessly retelling what happened last week. half of every show today is just replays of last week.

anyway, you know youve won a discussion when the person turns away from the topic and talks about what wwe does and then personally attacks you. so thank you. youve been extremely typical in your responses, its like you tna supporters are all cut with the same cookie cutter and are fed the same lines to use over and over.

blah blah blah, 36 years all, blah blah seen it all blah tna sukz...

You suck. Seriously, nobody cares about how old are you, how long you've been watching wrestling, yadda yadda.. this isn't the subject of this thread.
Saying TNA sucks is also not a subject of this thread. If anything, you should've gotten an infraction for getting off topic (is that cosidered spamming)?


As for the OP:

I've tuned in to watch TNA when WWE were at their lowest - after WM last year. Their product was so stale at the time that I just thought "hell, TNA can't be worse. I've seen they dropped that stupid 6-side ring, so lets see how it is now."
And, I wasn't disappointed. It did have some low points, but after each low it seems to get back just a bit higher then it was before, quality wise. Now that Bishop got in charge, and started editing the crowd reaction a bit, the show got a hell of a lot better then I remember it. It even seems as if the crowd has already learned (probably watching the edited version) how to react well, so the show is a ton better than it was.
Hope to see TNA pissing in Vinces mouth in every future opportunity they get - good job getting Chyna by the way.
 
That's the biggest load of horseshit I've read in quite some time. Anyone with even the slightest semblance of objectivity can tell that the WWE is CLEARLY miles ahead of TNA when it comes to in-ring product, for various reasons. WWE has much more programming per week, so you get way more quality matches on TV in a week than you do on Impact in a month, not to mention WWE's PPVs blow TNA PPVs right the fuck out of the water when it comes to in-ring work. Fuck just look at last week in the WWE, you had a damn good 10 minute title match on RAW between Cena and Miz, you had two good 10 minute plus matches on Superstars, and then you had an awesome 20 minute main event on Smackdown. As opposed to TNA last week which had....what again? Oh right, the usual 4 minute matches that never get any time to develop whatsoever. And when it comes to PPV? Please, not even a contest. Extreme Rules was better than any PPV TNA has had in a long, long, LONG time. Easily better than any PPV that TNA has had since the Fall of 2009. WWE Superstars on average features far more in-ring wrestling than Impact does each week, and that's WWE's C-show, which is half the length that Impact is.

There are plenty of things to like about TNA, but trying to claim the in-ring product is better is so laughably incorrect that I nearly spit up my coffee while reading your post.

I couldn't have said it better myself. This WWE Fan does watch TNA every week as well and for anyone that says TNA has a better in-ring in beyond stupid. RAW & Smackdown almost 2 weeks ago now had 2 outstanding World Title Matches (with plenty of emotion which is something TNA lacks in their Title Matches). Impact was decent this week but what really developed in the Ring other than maybe the Battle Royal which I knew Anderson would win (spoiler sorry)

Chyna's Debut was lackluster at best since all she did was stand on the Stage and then later could barely get in the Ring to get to Jeff/Karen. The TNA PPVs are horrible,Lockdown was a huge letdown in that nothing really happend and they hardly built up Sacrifice at all.

So there are a few things I like about TNA like Fortune,Sting,Kurt Angle,RVD,Mick Foley being back doesn't bother me too much,and a few other things but WWE still gives me a better Show each week IMO.
 
I like TNA too MrHashasheen. I also agree with those who have stated TNA's in-ring product is better than the WWE's. That's nothing new though, in the 80's JCP blew the WWF's in ring product out of the water, in the 90's WCW did likewise and in the 00's it's been TNA. Yeah yeah great, McMahon has super duper billion dollar production values.

Awesome story bros, the only problem is he handicaps his in ring talent. Sorry, the formula of a wrestler having 5 moves they have to hit each match with little to zero deviation isn't good, isn't cool and doesn't hold a candle to most of the matches you get in TNA. If you enjoy it? Hey great! I'm glad someone does.

But back to TNA. Yep, I enjoy it. I enjoy the promo work, I enjoy the matches, I enjoy the vastly superior to WWE talent they have on their roster. I enjoy their tag teams, I enjoy their Knockouts who can actually work in the ring. I find them overall to be an enjoyable product. I didn't used to and there are some things I don't enjoy about it but overall I like them and what they bring to the table. While i'm not thrilled about the new name and new look I am interested in seeing where they plan to go with this rebrand and new attitude.
 
I like TNA too MrHashasheen. I also agree with those who have stated TNA's in-ring product is better than the WWE's. That's nothing new though, in the 80's JCP blew the WWF's in ring product out of the water, in the 90's WCW did likewise and in the 00's it's been TNA. Yeah yeah great, McMahon has super duper billion dollar production values.

Awesome story bros, the only problem is he handicaps his in ring talent. Sorry, the formula of a wrestler having 5 moves they have to hit each match with little to zero deviation isn't good, isn't cool and doesn't hold a candle to most of the matches you get in TNA. If you enjoy it? Hey great! I'm glad someone does.

But back to TNA. Yep, I enjoy it. I enjoy the promo work, I enjoy the matches, I enjoy the vastly superior to WWE talent they have on their roster. I enjoy their tag teams, I enjoy their Knockouts who can actually work in the ring. I find them overall to be an enjoyable product. I didn't used to and there are some things I don't enjoy about it but overall I like them and what they bring to the table. While i'm not thrilled about the new name and new look I am interested in seeing where they plan to go with this rebrand and new attitude.



Do you really think discussing movesets in TNA v. WWE is a good argument? Really?

Need I mention?

Sting

AJ

Nash

Angle

Hardy (both)

Scott Steiner

Those guys all use the same movesets, and have for years now, over and over and over with no deviation.

Please, try again.
 
Do you really think discussing movesets in TNA v. WWE is a good argument? Really?

Need I mention?

Sting

AJ

Nash

Angle

Hardy (both)

Scott Steiner

Those guys all use the same movesets, and have for years now, over and over and over with no deviation.

Please, try again.


Man that is poor. I see you write some complete shit about TNA and this is right up there.

Sting – I never thought he was about having loads of moves. I thought he was more about the psychological side of things. And the aura that surrounds him as a wrestler.

AJ – This is just dumb and suggests to me that you don’t watch TNA. AJ can wrestle any style you want him to. Technical, mat, high flying, chain, submission, brawling, hardcore etc.

Nash – He’s not even in TNA.

Angle – Is this guy not the best wrestler in the World? Kurt Angle could have an awesome 25 minute match with anyone who could keep up.

Hardy (both) – I’ll give you Jeff, he seems to always do the same moves, but people love him so there’s no harm in having ONE guy that does the same 5 moves over and over. Matt, on the other hand, has shown he can work a variety of styles and holds.

Scott Steiner – I thought he was a dude that cut hilarious promos and beat people up?

So, please, try again.
 
Man that is poor. I see you write some complete shit about TNA and this is right up there.

Sting – I never thought he was about having loads of moves. I thought he was more about the psychological side of things. And the aura that surrounds him as a wrestler.

AJ – This is just dumb and suggests to me that you don’t watch TNA. AJ can wrestle any style you want him to. Technical, mat, high flying, chain, submission, brawling, hardcore etc.

Nash – He’s not even in TNA.

Angle – Is this guy not the best wrestler in the World? Kurt Angle could have an awesome 25 minute match with anyone who could keep up.

Hardy (both) – I’ll give you Jeff, he seems to always do the same moves, but people love him so there’s no harm in having ONE guy that does the same 5 moves over and over. Matt, on the other hand, has shown he can work a variety of styles and holds.

Scott Steiner – I thought he was a dude that cut hilarious promos and beat people up?

So, please, try again.



Actually I watch TNA every week and I pay attention. We're talking movesets here, not a wrestlers ability to adapt to different styles based on their opponent. Within the breakdown of a match, each of those men I listed use the same movesets within each match they compete in.

So I've proven that I'm right and all you were able to do was to curse me for the facts I provided.

Guess what that means?

I win, you lose.
 
Actually I watch TNA every week and I pay attention. We're talking movesets here, not a wrestlers ability to adapt to different styles based on their opponent. Within the breakdown of a match, each of those men I listed use the same movesets within each match they compete in.

So I've proven that I'm right and all you were able to do was to curse me for the facts I provided.

Guess what that means?

I win, you lose.


How old are you son? It’s not about winning or losing.

Of course they use the same moveset in their matches. That’s why it’s called a moveset isn’t it? It’s set to that wrestler. But it certainly isn’t restricted to 5 moves. The point I was making is they are not some generic guy that anyone could replace. They all offer much more and much more than 5 moves.

And that't the biggest thing TNA can offer over the WWE, idividual characters that are interesting. There's been a lot of debate lately about the actual wrestling and quality of it, in both companies. I haven't watched any WWE for a couple of years so can't comment on their present in ring product. But I'm not going to sit here and say I didn't see some good matches when I did watch it, but I couldn't care less who won those matches (unless it was Undertaker). So ultimately I didn't see the point in watching it anymore. And that's what makes TNA good and makes me like it, I care about who wins the matches.
 
That's the biggest load of horseshit I've read in quite some time. Anyone with even the slightest semblance of objectivity can tell that the WWE is CLEARLY miles ahead of TNA when it comes to in-ring product, for various reasons.

Thanks for confirming you still do not have the slightest idea what objective means.

WWE has much more programming per week, so you get way more quality matches on TV in a week than you do on Impact in a month, not to mention WWE's PPVs blow TNA PPVs right the fuck out of the water when it comes to in-ring work.

Of course with any X rant you get the requisite "proof" that of course is about as skewed and logically flawed as possibly can be. Why would you focus on quantity when discussing quality? That would seem to be an obvious mistake. Comparing 5 hours of tv to two on a quantity standard alone is just dumb. At least use a ratio if you want to be dubbed master of objectivity. Some stupid daytime show that runs for hours might have more quality moments than a 30 minute show at night. Does that mean it is CLEARLY better? Hell no. Also, Mr. objective why are you jerking off to the time of matches on superstars and not even counting Xplosion at all?

Fuck just look at last week in the WWE, you had a damn good 10 minute title match on RAW between Cena and Miz, you had two good 10 minute plus matches on Superstars, and then you had an awesome 20 minute main event on Smackdown.

10 good minutes in your opinion on a 2 hour show! How could TNA ever come close to these impossibly high standards WWE is setting?!?!?!?!!

As opposed to TNA last week which had....what again? Oh right, the usual 4 minute matches that never get any time to develop whatsoever.

The master of objectivity strikes again. Sure seemed like that battle royal went more than 4 minutes to me ...

And when it comes to PPV? Please, not even a contest. Extreme Rules was better than any PPV TNA has had in a long, long, LONG time. Easily better than any PPV that TNA has had since the Fall of 2009.

So now one show in your opinion makes all of WWE PPVs better than TNAs? That makes so much more sense than comparing them in a larger sample size, especially when we are talking about the wrestling, not the shows.

WWE Superstars on average features far more in-ring wrestling than Impact does each week, and that's WWE's C-show, which is half the length that Impact is.

You are a decent match rater so I have a hard time listening to you only talk about time in this thread like that is all that matters. Why do you play stupid to try and make your points? One thing that is pretty obvious is that on average the pacing is much quicker in TNA. This is why direct time comparisons really are not the be all end all anyway. I also think it is pretty clear that on average TNA tends to use more varied and arguably exciting movesets. The difference isn't what it once was but WWE still plays it safe enough that TNA still definitely has an edge here.

I am not here to argue that one style is clearly superior to the other. There are people that enjoy either style for what it is. Personally I cannot stand the pacing of WWE programming in general but that is just me. I am not going to spit coffee on myself just because shockingly there are people that think differently than me out there.

There are plenty of things to like about TNA, but trying to claim the in-ring product is better is so laughably incorrect that I nearly spit up my coffee while reading your post.

That is interesting because when looking at your 2010 match ratings TNA had 9 matches that you rated 4 stars or better, WWE had 11. TNA had two of those matches on impact, WWE had one on RAW, 0 on smackdown and not so surprisingly 0 on superstars. In fact, TNA had a match you rated 5 stars last year. Something you haven't done for WWE since 2005 and that was a match involving Kurt Angle. So you watched around 155 extra hours of WWE programming in 2010 and saw a whopping 2 more 4 stars or better matches.


Just spare us the your opinion is an objective truth act X.
 
How old are you son? It’s not about winning or losing.

Of course they use the same moveset in their matches. That’s why it’s called a moveset isn’t it? It’s set to that wrestler. But it certainly isn’t restricted to 5 moves. The point I was making is they are not some generic guy that anyone could replace. They all offer much more and much more than 5 moves.

And that't the biggest thing TNA can offer over the WWE, idividual characters that are interesting. There's been a lot of debate lately about the actual wrestling and quality of it, in both companies. I haven't watched any WWE for a couple of years so can't comment on their present in ring product. But I'm not going to sit here and say I didn't see some good matches when I did watch it, but I couldn't care less who won those matches (unless it was Undertaker). So ultimately I didn't see the point in watching it anymore. And that's what makes TNA good and makes me like it, I care about who wins the matches.


Well your best option then, in order to be objective, would be to watch WWE programming so you can offer an informed opinion on the subject matter.

Fact is, TNA has struggled for a long time to build any consistency in its storylines. With the creation of Immortal and Fortune I do believe they were/are onto something. However, continuing to use HH and Bischoff as the focal points of this feud, in my view, is wrong.
 
no you were merely butthurt and decided to use the same two sad tactics we have all seen time and time again. in case you forgot them, reread my post. dont backstep now and try to ignore you called me out by saying: i was merely directing you to the thread title.

lol im 36 and ive seen it all. on top of that wrestling sucks ass and has, for at the very least, 8 years now. so my days of being a "watch every week and be emotionally invested enough to buy ppv's" days are probably over. when your 36 see how much time you can find to squeeze in wrestling shows full of stars you dont really care about...and for promotions who care even less about themselves. pwr puts out about 3 hrs a week of content and its nice to listen to while doing dishes or yardwork instead of having to sit and suffer through 20 minute long boring promos...and even those spend half of their time needlessly retelling what happened last week. half of every show today is just replays of last week.

anyway, you know youve won a discussion when the person turns away from the topic and talks about what wwe does and then personally attacks you. so thank you. youve been extremely typical in your responses, its like you tna supporters are all cut with the same cookie cutter and are fed the same lines to use over and over.

Look i came in here to talk about what i like about TNA not hear a troll rant about stuff that has nothing to do with the title thread and you know what i love most about TNA? They are proud to be called a WRESTLING company
 
To say that aj uses the same five moves all the time is ludicrous.
To say that TNA has better PPV than WWE is just as silly.

WWE is not better than TNA, nor is the reverse true.
It all depends on what you are looming for.
Do I prefer TNA? Yes.
Does that make it better than WWE? For me, it does, but that is not reality, it is my personal tastes.

You folks need to get a grip.

Yur_momma, quit posting. Please with sugar on top.
 

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