I busted Derf!

[Slyfox696]

As a complete and total fraud.

He claims that he tripped up some moron of a kid who no longer posts here about something no one cares about. When pressed, it was actually determined that his "evidence" was circumstantial and based upon faulty logic and a bad case of jumping to conclusions.


Derf is a fraud. I've proven it.



Why is this important? Because Derf thought he some how would beat me in an argument. He lost. Badly.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Hey, I'm pretty sure I caught it first.

 

[Evan Snow-Wolf]

Sly, the forums are serious buisiness! Don't you understand how important this is to Derf!? Smile on your brother man, he needs this!

 

[Slyfox696]

Hey, I'm pretty sure I caught it first.

You questioned it first, but I busted him.

"I have claimed braging rights as the guy that got the solid proof that Derf (didn't) know what was going on all along."

 

[Downward Spiral]

On balance of probabilities, by all means, Coco is Dewey Cox. While, yes, there is not 100% proof that this is the case, I believe that Derf has found evidence, that while it is not complete proof, is enough for me to firmly believe that Coco is Dewey Cox.

The main 'evidence' for me, is that he claims to not have talked to D.C, then says that he knows that D.C is 'supporting him' or whatever. Why then would Lenore ask for D.C's 'sn' if he has opportunities to talk to him outside of MSN?? Could he not ask him at 'other forums' or through his 'spies' on this forum? If Lenore did have contact with D.C outside of AIM or MSN or whatever, then he certainly wouldn't need to ask Derf to give him his address.

 

[Slyfox696]

On balance of probabilities, by all means, Coco is Dewey Cox. While, yes, there is not 100% proof that this is the case, I believe that Derf has found evidence, that while it is not complete proof, is enough for me to firmly believe that Coco is Dewey Cox.

The main 'evidence' for me, is that he claims to not have talked to D.C, then says that he knows that D.C is 'supporting him' or whatever. Why then would Lenore ask for D.C's 'sn' if he has opportunities to talk to him outside of MSN?? Could he not ask him at 'other forums' or through his 'spies' on this forum? If Lenore did have contact with D.C outside of AIM or MSN or whatever, then he certainly wouldn't need to ask Derf to give him his address.

Because Coco never once said that he talked to Dewey.

Read it again. He never EVER said he talked to Dewey.

 

[Downward Spiral]

Because Coco never once said that he talked to Dewey.

Read it again. He never EVER said he talked to Dewey.

Then Dewey is talking to Coco's 'spies' on the site, right, to give Coco this information? To me, it sounded like Derf giving Dewey Coco's address was apparently his only way of communication with him. Why would you need Derf when you've got so many other people that should have or could give him Coco's screen name?

 

[Slyfox696]

Then Dewey is talking to Coco's 'spies' on the site, right, to give Coco this information?

No, Coco knows that Dewey keeps reading about how he's supposed to be someone else, so Coco says that he knows Dewey believes him.

Considering that they are two separate people, I think it's a fair statement to say that Dewey believes they are not the same person (assuming they are not, of course).

The point is, that if they really are two different people, Coco doesn't have to talk to Dewey to know that.

To me, it sounded like Derf giving Dewey Coco's address was apparently his only way of communication with him.

Not at all. It was just the most convenient at the time. Have you never told one of your friends to tell another friend something for you, even though you could have done it at a later date?

 

[Downward Spiral]

No, Coco knows that Dewey keeps reading about how he's supposed to be someone else, so Coco says that he knows Dewey believes him.

Considering that they are two separate people, I think it's a fair statement to say that Dewey believes they are not the same person (assuming they are not, of course).

The point is, that if they really are two different people, Coco doesn't have to talk to Dewey to know that.

To me, saying that you 'know' someone believes you would generally imply that there has been some form of communication between the two, whether it is direct, or passed on. It's a very odd thing to just say when you haven't spoken in any way to this guy. Saying you 'know' and saying that 'someone would' are two different things, with two different implications.

Not at all. It was just the most convenient at the time. Have you never told one of your friends to tell another friend something for you, even though you could have done it at a later date?

Coco apparently 'knew' about Dewey for a few days. Time enough to give and receive addresses through the use of 'spies', I believe.

And the Dewey Cox thing has been going for a few weeks now. Wouldn't his 'spies' have alerted him of this as soon as speculation started?

Coco claimed to have 'spies', that tell him what goes on in threads and whatever. Why didn't these 'spies' tell Coco about the Dewey Cox thing, when Coco apparently only found out about it from Derf?

 

[Slyfox696]

To me, saying that you 'know' someone believes you would generally imply that there has been some form of communication between the two, whether it is direct, or passed on. It's a very odd thing to just say when you haven't spoken in any way to this guy. Saying you 'know' and saying that 'someone would' are two different things, with two different implications.

So, you're basing an entire case off the implied connotations of a word spouted by a person who isn't very smart to begin with?

THAT'S the best you got?

Coco apparently 'knew' about Dewey for a few days. Time enough to give and receive addresses through the use of 'spies', I believe.

So what? Maybe he didn't think about it. Who knows.

Coco claimed to have 'spies', that tell him what goes on in threads and whatever. Why didn't these 'spies' tell Coco about the Dewey Cox thing, when Coco apparently only found out about it from Derf?

Are you really asking why someone who is no longer a part of this forum, didn't get information from people on the forum, from which was not a major deal, until someone who was intent on trying to bust him said something?

Are you REALLY asking that?


I mean, do you think Coco told his friends, "Now, just on the off chance that they begin to interrogate some random guy who might coincidentally talk like me, I want you to bring me a full report as immediately as possible"? Honestly?

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Wow...big controversy eh?

Flames Out
Dragon

 

[Slyfox696]

Wow...big controversy eh?

Flames Out
Dragon

Not at all.

I just love to show how bad people's logic is sometimes.


Frankly, I don't give a damn who Coco or Dewey is. Same, different, I don't care. Don't talk to either one of them. I just think it's amazing how people get so worked up based upon conclusion based on assumptions.

 

[Derf]

I just wanna point out one other thing that seems to have slipped through a Loophole. Not only did Leore say he had spies or whatever, if yu read thew convo, he actually said he himself can read every word we say to one another by visiting as a guest. Go figure. It's a web of lies.

 

[HBK-aholic]

The thing is, I don't think you can view all parts of the forums without being signed in. I've been at school a few times trying to look, and it asks me to sign in to view things.

 

[Derf]

The thing is, I don't think you can view all parts of the forums without being signed in. I've been at school a few times trying to look, and it asks me to sign in to view things.

I JUST logged out and tried to look at the first post of the bar room, it wouldn't let me. It said I had to log in. So Leore lied about that as well.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

the problem is coco has not got any spies on the forums, im the only guy he sparing talks to from the forums and we dont even chat that much anymore due to cocos said schedule, so even though he maybe dewey just give the kid a break guys

 

[Derf]

the problem is coco has not got any spies on the forums, im the only guy he sparing talks to from the forums and we dont even chat that much anymore due to cocos said schedule, so even though he maybe dewey just give the kid a break guys

He said people from his other forum signed up and tell him what goes on. He also said he can go on as a guest. And I just prooved that as a lie.

 

[Slyfox696]

the problem is coco has not got any spies on the forums, im the only guy he sparing talks to from the forums and we dont even chat that much anymore due to cocos said schedule, so even though he maybe dewey just give the kid a break guys

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OMG! HE'S COCO! I BUSTED COCO! LOL!

Spoiler

Just kidding

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Tool

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

sly that is so unfunny it hurts

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

I'm pretty sure that Jake and/or Jonny ordered that anyone posting anything from Coco post-banning was a bannable offense in and of itself. Is that right?

 

[Derf]

When did that happen? If thats the case, I'll stop... Or technically, I got banned, so I have to stop anyways.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Yeah, hold on dude, let me find the post.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

ATTENTION: I was originally trying to keep Leore as a member of the e-fed, dispite him actually being banned. I've just been informed that anyone who posts ANYTHING on behalf of Leore is threatening and risking being banned. Including mods.

Therefore, as of this moment, Leore is officially gone from W.Z.C.W. His character will be written off in some manner, that will be decided upon by the creative staff.

Again, read carefully. ANYONE, INCLUDING MODS who try to post ANYTHING on behalf of Leore, will be risking their position as well as their membership to this forum. Thank You.

He was Informed by me, for the record.

These were posted in the efed some time after his banning.

 

[Derf]

Ah, I hadn't known. Alright, I guess theres no point in talking about it anymore... I don't want to keep going on with this.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Yeah, I just wanted to give you and everyone else the heads up. I had forgotten also. :SmashfreakB: