When?
Hulk Hogan/FOTH gets his ass handed to him over and over again
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Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
Shocky, why laugh at Hardy? The guy is the top seller on WWE.com right now. The guy sells. Apparently that's what this business is about.
Survivor Series 1992, with Bret Hart
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Triple H has done more for Orton than Hogan did.. Randy Orton has actually DEFEATED Triple H... Remember Survivor Series 2004 with Team Orton vs Team Game? Winners get control of Raw? Orton pinned HHH... That's one of several victories(including No Mercy, WM, and several Raw matches), where Orton's defeated the Game.. Triple H, not Mick Foley, groomed Randy Orton for success.. The Foley/Orton feud may've put Orton on the map..But it was Evolution and his subsequent feuds with Triple H that catapulted him(especially in 2007)..Triple H and Randy Orton have feuded in part of, atleast, the last 4 years..Think about that... All Hogan had to do was give him the win ONCE.. And he chose not to.
Hardy actually does fairly well. I hope he gets his shit straight though.
So TEAM orton defeating TEAM Triple H constitutes as Triple H putting Randy Orton over? Winning a 4 on 4 match hardly constitutes being put over. And If memory does serve me correct, Orton has beat Triple H exactly how many times in one on one affairs. (Waits for No Mercy, Triple H's third match of the night response).
Mick Foley made Randy Orton, plain and simple. The Legend Killer gimmick was made when Foley made him bleed at Backlash 2004. That's when Orton became a player, Benoit molded him even more, and then Orton's momentum got crushed by Triple H because he was afraid he was going to be a biggers tar then him.
Steamboat Ricky
WZCW's Living Legend
He tagged with Diesel to win the tag straps at IYH 3.
And he won those two rumbles...
And he won those two rumbles...
Slim Pickns
Has Been Drafted To RAW
True, and Bret made the mid card Michaels look like a legit threat to the title as well.
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Actually, Triple H, much like Flair did for him, handpicked Randy Orton.. Thats one of the reasons WHY Orton was given so many chances.. Triple H didn't wanna give up on him based on the fact it'd look like he made a bad decision.. And in that 4 on 4 match...It came down to Orton and HHH.. They'd gone through the exact same amount of punishment when Orton PINNED Triple H.. So theres really no "Well HHH only lost to a fresh Orton" argument needed here.. And Orton has pinned Triple H at Raw's in tag and singles matches.. Triple H pinned Randy Orton at Unforgiven 2004 because WWE realized it'd made a mistake by giving Orton the Title too early..Not because Triple H was afraid because quite frankly, Orton wasn't ready and wasn't getting nearly as big pops as WWE thought he would..That's why his run was nixed.
How about attacking him professionally, not personally. Hogan was part of the demise of the WCW. He wouldn't let other talent get over, and he and Bischoff did everything possible to keep themselves in the spotlight even after the NWO angle got old. I think Hogan is indirectly reponsible for WCW going down. He's not the only reason, but a big part.
I have no patients whatsoever for people who will not do a job. I don't care how great you were. If he was supposed to put Shawn over, then that's what he should have done, or been fired.
He's proven himself to be selfish, and he doesn't realize that the 90s are over.
No one can take away what he has accomplished in wrestling, and his personal life should be just that. I have no tolerance for media vultures who give celebs no private time whatsoever.
Possible argument. "They knew what they were getting into when they became celebrities." Bullshit. No one has the right to have every aspect of their private lives revealed to the world, to not be able to go out to dinner, not even be able to walk the streets. Brooke is over 18, isn't she? If so then it's just incest.
Wonder if a day will ever come where Hogan will just go away. He was never, IMO, a really great wrestler. He knew how to work the mic and he looked good. Take away the blonde hair, good looks and great promos, and your left with...John Cena!
No, seriously. Cena is a class act, and is much more professional than Hogan ever was. Quite frankly, if I had kids I'd rather them look up to Cena than Hogan.
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I have no patients whatsoever for people who will not do a job. I don't care how great you were. If he was supposed to put Shawn over, then that's what he should have done, or been fired.
He's proven himself to be selfish, and he doesn't realize that the 90s are over.
No one can take away what he has accomplished in wrestling, and his personal life should be just that. I have no tolerance for media vultures who give celebs no private time whatsoever.
Possible argument. "They knew what they were getting into when they became celebrities." Bullshit. No one has the right to have every aspect of their private lives revealed to the world, to not be able to go out to dinner, not even be able to walk the streets. Brooke is over 18, isn't she? If so then it's just incest.
Wonder if a day will ever come where Hogan will just go away. He was never, IMO, a really great wrestler. He knew how to work the mic and he looked good. Take away the blonde hair, good looks and great promos, and your left with...John Cena!
No, seriously. Cena is a class act, and is much more professional than Hogan ever was. Quite frankly, if I had kids I'd rather them look up to Cena than Hogan.
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ROH wasnt around when Flair was in his prime "silly"
Afro-Ameri-Spawn
Houston's Hometown Hero
How come "Classic Nostalgia" is so hard for ROH heads to grasp these days? I mean I like all wrestling and I like the evolution and everything, but old school wrestling is classic and is always watchable.
Luther_Hull
Cunt.
I only read the first two pages, but Will's totally wrong.
Saying Hogan is responsible for WCW's death is like saying Larry Bird was responsible for the Boston Celtics collapse after he retired. It really makes no sense. Hulk Hogan didn't book the shows, Hogan didn't run the company, Hogan didn't pay his own check, Hogan didn't run Time Warner, Hogan didn't cancel WCW...blaming Hulk Hogan is a superficial excuse to dislike him.
He wasn't supposed to put Shawn over. He and Shawn both politicked hard, and Hogan won. Why did he win? Because Hogan going over Shawn benefited McMahon more than Shawn going over Hogan.
Selfish? No, he's just looking out for himself. I call that smart, not selfish.
Which should prove that Hogan was a great wrestler.
oh boy
If he couldn't wrestle, then what did I watch him do on all those different PPVs?
TheOneBigWill
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Slim Pickns
Has Been Drafted To RAW
I'm sorry do you mean, WRESTLE!
All professional wrestling amounts to simply acting. And since Hogan was better than anyone else in, obviously, he was a hell of an actor, as far as wrestling goes.Act. Badly.
So, you fail.
Slim Pickns
Has Been Drafted To RAW
Yeah, but can he chain wrestle?
IrishCanadian25
Going on 10 years with WrestleZone
You're in a bad way here. Not only are you dead wrong, but you are dead wrong to the one person you DO NOT want to be wrong to about the ONE THING you do not want to be wrong to him about.
Afro-Ameri-Spawn
Houston's Hometown Hero
Fuckin Smark. Look kid, if it weren't for all the damned years that "bad wrasslers" like Hulk Hogan busted their ass up and down the road to put asses in seats and make wrestling actually popular, then there wouldn't be fanbase to who would even be remotely interested in seeing the little indy fucks that you seem to idolize to no end. Remember bitch, before there was Tupac, there was The Sugarhill Gang. Before there was Eminem, there was Vanilla Ice. And before there was Brian Danielson or any other overrated piece of shit that you want to prance around singing the praises of, there was HULK F'N HOGAN! Now bend down and kiss his ass and say thank you.