Hulk Hogan/FOTH gets his ass handed to him over and over again

[IrishCanadian25]

Terry Bollea is a Dick.

This is the truest statement of them all. It's not a matter of "Hulk Hogan" or anything having to do with him. Terry Bollea is showing himself to be of questionable character. His family is falling apart, and in front of everyone's eyes.

 

[Uncle Sam]

That whole conversation that came out in prison... nobody seems to have even read the entire report. Terry himself isn't the worst, but stating that it was God's will for the accident to happen.... bit messed up, no? And the mum crying and moaning about how she's lonely at the beach house without Nick; Jesus Christ!

 

[Shocky]

This is the truest statement of them all. It's not a matter of "Hulk Hogan" or anything having to do with him. Terry Bollea is showing himself to be of questionable character. His family is falling apart, and in front of everyone's eyes.

But how is this different then over the 50% failed marriages in the country. Hell, take a look at the list of questionable characters other then Hogan in teh business. Austin beat his wife, Flair (don't need to start on that).

Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, all of these people have personal demons, everyone has personal demons.

 

[Uncle Sam]

A fire isn't less of a fire if you point out other fires. I just invented a saying. Yay for me!

 

[Slim Pickns]

But how is this different then over the 50% failed marriages in the country. Hell, take a look at the list of questionable characters other then Hogan in teh business. Austin beat his wife, Flair (don't need to start on that).

Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, all of these people have personal demons, everyone has personal demons.

Its diiferent because the Kliqsters need the argument to show why HBK is better than Hogan. Don't bring up HBKs past though, it doesn't matter now that he's found God.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I hate it when people dismiss stuff with "Well, those dudes are just so sad" instead of actually considering it. Just because other personalities are ********s, why does that make Hogan less of a ********? It doesn't, it just makes him a ******** among ********s.

 

[Shocky]

Hogan maybe a dick, and that's all well in good, but why does him being a dick warrant a thread being made of it when other people have been dicks that are much worse then he is?

 

[Shadowmancer]

And I even went as far to distinguish between Hulk Hogan the Wrestler that Can't be criticised for some bizzare reason or another and Terry Bollea, the ******** behind hogans persona

 

[Shadowmancer]

I think it may be because this is so damn public

 

[Uncle Sam]

Don't criticize Hogan. He's successful therefore he's flawless. And I don't see why I should have to go make threads on other people being dicks so this can continue. After all, this is a wrestling forum and, as everyone never-endingly points out, Hogan is the number one wrestler EVAH. Therefore, it's infinitely more relevant that Hogan is a dick than anyone else.

 

[Moon Knight]

Hogan's a dick. That is all.

FACT! I agree, I lost all respect for the man years ago, and after seeing his matches in context they weren't that good. Flair was the man.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Hogan's matches haven't aged well. They are very, very slow-paced by today's standards. That's just a fact.

 

[Shocky]

People never-endingly point it out, because It's true. People can make threads that bash Hogan, but don't expect everyone to sit idly by while the pile on goes on. It's a forum, therefore people can come in and defend and criticize as they please. I saw a pile on, I'm bored, I jumped in.

 

[Slim Pickns]

I hate it when people dismiss stuff with "Well, those dudes are just so sad" instead of actually considering it. Just because other personalities are ********s, why does that make Hogan less of a ********? It doesn't, it just makes him a ******** among ********s.

I never claimed it was ok for Hogan to be a dick. I've been saying the whole time that no matter how big a dick, he's better than your favorite wrestler.

I hate how we have to hear people whine about how Hogan went over HHH and HBK. Its obvious Hogan is ten times the star HBK is and HHH isn't worthy of letting Hogan shit in his mouth. The need to come up with some reason as to why there guy is better. The result is stooping to threads like this.

 

[Shocky]

FACT! I agree, I lost all respect for the man years ago, and after seeing his matches in context they weren't that good. Flair was the man.

Flair was the man, pre 1993, agree with that, Well the man that looked up at Hogan the closest anyway.

 

[Moon Knight]

Hogan's matches haven't aged well. They are very, very slow-paced by today's standards. That's just a fact.

Where is Kasey when you need him? Nobody bashed Hogans in ring ability like he did.


By today's standards? Hogan had the same move diversity Cena does. Maybe less. Same 5 or 6 moves over and over.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Better is a point of view, at least in this case. Unless you say he's better at something, it's just opinion. Is he the most successful wrestler of all time? Probably. Does that make him the best? In any other industry, people don't numbly agree that successful equals good. Successful bands are often considered shit, for example. Same with films, TV shows, anything you can name. Is the Bible the best book ever?

 

[Moon Knight]

Flair was the man, pre 1993, agree with that, Well the man that looked up at Hogan the closest anyway.

Flair stayed too long and outlived his welcome. He was the best in 1980's and went down hill in the 90's. He never outdrew Hogan, but was a better wrestler by a longshot.

 

[Shocky]

Better is a point of view, at least in this case. Unless you say he's better at something, it's just opinion. Is he the most successful wrestler of all time? Probably. Does that make him the best? In any other industry, people don't numbly agree that successful equals good. Successful bands are often considered shit, for example. Same with films, TV shows, anything you can name. Is the Bible the best book ever?

It makes him the best when you talk about making money, which is what the business is all about. Look past the crap about trying to entertain you, the bottom line is money, plain and simple, and no one did it like Hogan.

Successful bands and such, people mindlessly bash a band for changing, but Metallica said it best, "We Sold Out...every concert we put on", Pretty much sums it up. A very vocal minority is out there to try and discredit people that are better then them, pretty much out of petty jealousy. Instead of looking in the mirror and saying, hey, it's my fault I'm not a success, they look for flaws in people that are better then them, ramble on with another small group that feels the same way they do, empower themselves in the crap pool they swim in, and in the end they feel that they are better then the person they are jealous of.

And the Bible, One Billion Christians would tell you yes.

 

[Slyfox696]

Flair stayed too long and outlived his welcome. He was the best in 1980's and went down hill in the 90's. He never outdrew Hogan, but was a better wrestler by a longshot.

I don't call a routine worker, with pitiful psychology, working the same match every night for 20 years in front of 20 people in a flea market the "best" wrestler.

 

[Shocky]

Flair stayed too long and outlived his welcome. He was the best in 1980's and went down hill in the 90's. He never outdrew Hogan, but was a better wrestler by a longshot.

My dad said it best to me at WM this year.

Hogan was the best at ripping his shirt off and doing this (insert stupid hand swiggle)

Flair was the best at saying woo and falling on his face.

He thinks both are over rated and that Dusty, Race and Bruno were much better. It's generational, that's for sure.

 

[jmt225]

How exactly is Hogan a dick though? Yeah, he's done some shitty backstage stuff that benefited him and not his company, but name top wrestlers since the 1980's that haven't? Sting, The Rock, Taker, Cena, and Edge seem like the only one's who haven't. Austin, Flair, HHH, HBK, Nash, Hart, among others all had their fair share of politic moves that question their character. And there's no way anyone could tell me that Hogan is the worst of the bunch.

And if you want to comment on his personal life.... again, what has he done? His wife being a ****e is not his fault. Him getting a divorce is nothing that should be looked down upon. How many people here parents are still together? Mine aren't, and I honestly don't know too many people whose are. As far as Hogan fucking someone half his age... who gives a fuck? If any one of you were in his position, you'd do the exact same thing. You can't fault a man for not turning down nice pussy. More power to the Hulkster. As far as the Nick accident goes... that has nothing to do with Hulk. Nick had an accident and he and his family will now suffer for it for the rest of their lives. And for people to point the figure at Hulk over a car ACCIDENT that he was not even involved in is ridiculous. Sly has already explained the Brooke/Hulk ‘lotion’ nonsense and the reasons for Hogan wanting his children to succeed, so no need to touch that. But lastly... what is wrong with Brooke? Has she ever done anything wrong? Why do people hate her? Hulk seem to do a pretty good raising her if you ask me.

It just looks to me that this hatred for Hogan is completely filled with biasness which blinds you all from seeing that the dude has done nothing that deserves the hate. The worst thing he's ever done in my eyes was ruin the main event for Starrcade 1997. That is something that will always bother me, but I don't hate him for it. It's not the worst thing to happen in the business.

 

[Uncle Sam]

It makes him the best when you talk about making money, which is what the business is all about.

What business isn't? No, seriously.

Look past the crap about trying to entertain you, the bottom line is money, plain and simple, and no one did it like Hogan.

So the Bible is the best booker ever? I'd wager it made the most money. Isn't that the point of the book industry?

Successful bands and such, people mindlessly bash a band for changing, but Metallica said it best, "We Sold Out...every concert we put on", Pretty much sums it up. A very vocal minority is out there to try and discredit people that are better then them, pretty much out of petty jealousy. Instead of looking in the mirror and saying, hey, it's my fault I'm not a success, they look for flaws in people that are better then them, ramble on with another small group that feels the same way they do, empower themselves in the crap pool they swim in, and in the end they feel that they are better then the person they are jealous of.

Jealousy? C'mon, Shocky, you know better than that. People aren't jealous of Hogan. People don't think Hogan sold out or any of that. They just don't find Hogan entertaining and so don't like it when people say he's the best, just because he made so much money. In addition to that, I think that - bringing all economic factors and, well, all factors together, some wrestlers have in fact made more money than Hogan, despite not being as popular.

And the Bible, One Billion Christians would tell you yes.

They'd tell me a lot of crap.

 

[Slim Pickns]

Where is Kasey when you need him? Nobody bashed Hogans in ring ability like he did.


By today's standards? Hogan had the same move diversity Cena does. Maybe less. Same 5 or 6 moves over and over.

The term in ring abilty is what people say when they want to try to prove that their favorite wrestler is better than someone elses. HBK and HHH don't make half the money that Hogan and Cena do, but they are obviously better because they have more in ring ability.

 

[Slyfox696]

What business isn't? No, seriously.

Not the wrestling business, certainly.

So the Bible is the best booker ever? I'd wager it made the most money. Isn't that the point of the book industry?

Not necessarily. People always have varying reasons for writing. For example, J. R. R. Tolkien wrote "The Hobbit" for a member of his family, never knowing that his writing would be wildly successful.

However, when contracted as a professional wrestler, your job description is very clear.

In addition to that, I think that - bringing all economic factors and, well, all factors together, some wrestlers have in fact made more money than Hogan, despite not being as popular.

No wrestler has ever drawn money like Hulk Hogan, relevant to the times in which they worked.