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How would they fare now second edition

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Alright time for my second edition but first i wanna point out something not sure i made clear last time. When it comes to the gimmick,music and ring gear you can use your own imagination and assume its modernized a bit. It needs to be the same just updated. For example assume Macho Man had his ring gear updated to fit the modern era. But the overall gimmick would be the same so no Hulk Hogan coming out as a Wyatt type lol.

Like before assume they have never been around before and are in their prime.


1:Hulk Hogan be it red and yellow or Hollywood.

2:Rick Rude

3:New Age Outlaws

4:Chris Benoit ( I know this guy always stirs up a storm but this is just him as a wrestler not what happened)

5:Bam Bam Bigelow


Like before i will wait a few post then throw my two cents in.
 
In my opinion Hulk Hogan would be in the same spot Ryback is now that big guy who they want to push but not as much as their top guys and they just aren't quite sure what to do with him.

Rick Rude I think would be in a similar spot to where he was in that he would be a mid card heel to compare him to someone on the current roster I'd say a spot where Ziggler is.

New Age Outlaws where something different they were fun, entertaining everything WWE want to try hard to make people laugh at now except they actually are these things. I'd imagine perpetual tag title reigns because who would there be to compete with.

Chris Benoit I think would be fine now except him on the mic wasn't the best so probably a spot where Daniel Bryan 2 years ago high mid card but not just quite yet ready to make the jump.

Bam Bam Bigelow I think would be a guy that would be wrestling in ROH or NJPW because I think he wouldn't quite fit into the WWE or into TNA for that matter. I think Japan at the moment would be perfect for a guy like him.
 
Hulk Hogan would be one of the top guys in WWE. When he was in Japan and the AWA, he had good matches. Work rate wasn't important during his initial WWF run, but he good matches with Savage, so he would have had great matches with Cena, Punk, etc. He wasn't a great wrestler, but he was better then Ryback. His size, his look, and his charisma would make him one of the top WWE wrestlers.

New Age Outlaws would have been over, thanks to Road Dogg's entrance. But, they wouldn't have had DX to help boost them.

Chris Benoit would not be in the WWE.

Bam Bam is a tough one. He would look like a good monster, but it's possible he'd be in the position Clay is in right now.

Rude would be one of the top guys. Again, look and charisma.

The WWE would be in better shape if they had a Hogan or a Rude in their prime, but that also means there's a chance Danielson wouldn't be getting a push right now.
 
Honestly, I think all of these guys would've been just fine in today's wrestling, and mostly comparable to where they were in their prime. Hogan, regardless of what people think of his in-ring capabilities, was still great on the mic and I can make the argument that today's climate would've pushed him to expand his moveset. I saw this for the Red and Gold Hogan...to me, that was Hogan in his prime. Hollywood Hogan only worked because he had once been Real American Hulk and the juxtaposition of the two gimmicks was what made "Hollywood" work.

Rude would probably be a bit further along, and with the way WWE gives out titles, I have no doubt he would've had his runs with both the World Title and the WHC. I think you can make a strong argument that Rude's abilities and charisma could've landed him in the Main Event at WrestleMania; he was that good in the ring at telling a story.

NAO - See any tag team today. They'd still be popular with their promos, they'd still have the gold straps. They'd go nowhere as singles competitors, but what the hey.

Benoit would be a Punk/Bryan opponent and if allowed to still be the hard hitter that he was, would have pretty secure spot on the roster. Again, a lot of Benoit's push was his popularity in WCW and the fanbase that came with him. You can't totally remove a guy from his spot in history and the stuff that influenced his rise. I'd argue that Benoit would be the most likely to take a step backwards and not get the title shots that he got. Certainly not a WrestleMania moment.

Bigelow - Tough to say...this guy moved around a lot and as I understand it, of his own volition. IF he stuck around in WWE for a time, he'd be an awesome monster heel a la Mark Henry. Ringwise he's a step above Kane, and a huge leap over Ryback. Give this guy the title at some point mid year and he'd get a nice run and program with a guy like Cena.
 
Alright time for my second edition but first i wanna point out something not sure i made clear last time. When it comes to the gimmick,music and ring gear you can use your own imagination and assume its modernized a bit. It needs to be the same just updated. For example assume Macho Man had his ring gear updated to fit the modern era. But the overall gimmick would be the same so no Hulk Hogan coming out as a Wyatt type lol.

Like before assume they have never been around before and are in their prime.


1:Hulk Hogan be it red and yellow or Hollywood.

2:Rick Rude

3:New Age Outlaws

4:Chris Benoit ( I know this guy always stirs up a storm but this is just him as a wrestler not what happened)

5:Bam Bam Bigelow


Like before i will wait a few post then throw my two cents in.

1---TO be totally honest, it's hard to really pigeonhole hogan like this. He basically has had 4 careers in one. There was his 'say prayer,vitamins' run in wwe were he held belt for years at the time and always at the top, there was his last real run in wwe before leaving that set the seeds for his wcw initial run, then there was NWO and Hollywood Hogan, and after the end of WCW, there's been the douchebag years.
His initial run personality wouldn't fit in with todays society, and they would likely play around trying to find him a better fit. His second wwe/1st wcw run as the yellow and gold might work better, as he started to show a slightly more aggresive and realistic side instead of the previous super hero type role he was in, hollywood hogan would likely have some success as a heel in todays world, and the less said about his time since about 2004 the better.
The issue would be to try and get him into a role that could allow him to feature his good qualities while downplaying his poor qualities. Not sure if the creative team would be able to pull it off as he was so iconic to the various times he shined, it makes it hard to update him to todays wrestling reality.

2---Rick Rude is in my opinion one of those guys who has been so elevated in people minds due to the tragedy of his life that people tend to over rate through good intentions. He was a good worker for the style and time of wrestling he was in, but in todays era, he would just be another well sculpted, mildly talented mic worker, with average in ring ability. He might make it to the level he was at, but don't delude yourself in thinking he'd be world or wwe champ material. He'd be in a spot like Swagger, Cesaro, and Ziggler. Guys who seem from the outside to be shoe ins for champs, but there's something lacking that doesn't allow them to make it to that next level.

3---NAO. hard to say. solid in ring workers, became champs more due to the brutality of the Attitude era and their association with DX then their own abilities. Can't discount Billy as he was multitime and multipartner tag, but aside from 'Suck It', wasn't really that interesting on the mic and was never a good wordsmith. Road Dogg was much better and that's why he did most of the talking during promos/interviews/etc... while Mr Ass showed his ass. In todays market, with the family friendly atmosphere, not sure if they'd be able to reign in their antics enough to be a success. Throw in the depletion of value in tag wrestling and they would struggle to reach the heights of the Attitude era. Of course same could be said for most tag teams, from LOD to Demolition to even 4horsemen.

4---benoit....It's hard to find a guy who insipres more controversy and reaction then him. as a wrestler and worker, there are few who could match him. His style would be a good fit and he'd be among the top tier, occassional main event, short term champs ala ziggles, del rio, show and others. guys that you can bring up to the main event for a few months and have put on great matches with the lesser skilled but more charismatic guys on the roster and then use to highlight the talents of potential future stars who lack in ring skill(which can be trained) but excel in personality and promo work.

5---bam bam. like i said with vader in the 1st edition, a guy with his size and skill would have few options. Either end up as a humorous crowd favorite ala Clay/Tensai or a bigShow/Henry type role of massive guys used to showcase other talents strength/determination with the occassional title. Not sure if his mic work would allow for top billing in a title so might be stuck as ic/us level and not reach world/wwe level, but still be one of the main guys relied on to help put over talent going up to that top tier. One of the final hurdles to put people past the midcard and into the main event, while only flirting with but rarely if ever reaching the main event himself.
 
Alright time to throw my views in

HH: I think he would come out and his late WWE/WCW/WWE return Red and Yellow would work and he would get over as a huge face maybe even able to challenge cena where it matters most to the WWE today and that's sell of merch to kids. I could also see him at some point flipping heel/cool bad guy using a his Hollywood persona. All in all i could see him being equal to cena or maybe even a above at some points

Rick Rude: I see him being a Mid carder with a stretch as a main eventer that is short lived.

NAO: I think witch a few tweaks to their wording to make it PG friendly much like they have done in their recent returns they could be a huge draw. I think the kids and teens would love them but also get some love from the adults. Multi tag reigns and a force in the tag division as long as they want to be around.

Chris Benoit: I think he would be a solid Upper Mid card guy with multiple times where he is called up to bat in the Main Event. He wasn't great on the mic but if you placed him with a good mouthpiece i think he would do just fine

Bam Bam: I could see him coming out at first with a massive push either in the upper mid card or main event. They will be able to cover for his poor mic work with a manager for awhile but sooner or later his push would end but he would of had a decent enough feud with a main event guy. Next he would prob win a mid card title and hold it for a few months before losing it. Shortly after he would prob become the next member of tons of funk or just a jobber who has a few stints of being a valid mid card guy.
 
1:Hulk Hogan be it red and yellow or Hollywood.

It's tempting to say that a 29 or 30 year old Hulk Hogan would be as big of a star today as he was nearly 30 years ago, but I'm not sure. I'm thinking that he probably would, but I'm not 100% sure. When it came down to in-ring ability, Hogan's abilities were pretty elementary and he wasn't particularly athletic. However, Hogan was loaded with charisma and personality. One thing I'm pretty certain of is that Hogan, if pushed to the main event, he'd get every bit the amount of hate that John Cena does from a large portion of the IWC. Hogan as a babyface during the 80s and into the mid 90s was very much like John Cena is today. He was kid friendly, wholesome, is ultra patriotic, stands for "truth" & "justice", and came off as downright superhuman when he overcame whatever odds were put in front of him. The same thing that Cena gets ripped for by smarks and dirtsheet writers made them go nuts for Hulk Hogan when they were 10 years old.

2:Rick Rude

Rude was one of my favorite heels as a kid and was just downright fun to hate. He had a great physique, he's arguably one of the best built guys in the history of wrestling. He was a big guy, but he didn't look bulky and was ripped. While he was on steroids for most, if not all, of his career, he didn't look unnatural. Usually, guys who take a good number of steroids, or have in the past, develop a kind of roundness to their muscles like you usually see on pro bodybuilders, which is also how a lot of comic book characters are drawn. Rude didn't have that sort of look about him though. He looked like someone who was into heavy duty, take no prisoners fitness rather than a bodybuilder or powerlifter. I have no idea, of course, how frequently Rude juiced up or the dosages, but I'm guessing it was possibly several times a day and with very high amounts. After all, given his physique and general level of fitness, you'd have to think steroids played a huge part in him dropping dead of heart failure at only 40 years of age. With WWE's Wellness Policy, it's difficult to say with Rude. The only guy in WWE that seems to have had huge success following confirmed failure of a WWE administered drug test is Randy Orton. Rude had the ability to be a top level player, in my opinion, and could be today at 25-30 years of age if the drugs didn't screw him up.

3:New Age Outlaws

I have little doubt that the NAO would still be top stars in the tag team picture if they were young & around today. They were entertaining to watch inside the ring and Road Dogg was very charismatic.

4:Chris Benoit ( I know this guy always stirs up a storm but this is just him as a wrestler not what happened)

Not really sure why Benoit is on this list seeing as how he spent the better part of 7 years in WWE and has only been dead for the last 6 years. But, if a 25 year old Benoit made it to the WWE today, I think he'd ultimately rise to the level he already achieved. He's someone who could be counted on to provide very high quality matches, had a good look, great intensity and a passion for wrestling. In that sense, Benoit reminds me a stockier & shorter Antonio Cesaro. When it comes to personality, however, Benoit simply didn't have it and never did. Maybe, if Benoit today spent time in NXT, he could learn to develop his personality and persona that could elevate him. Then again, maybe not. I don't know if there was a real spark of charisma buried in Benoit, but he never really showed it. I could see him getting into the WHC picture like he did back in 2004 and winning the title, but not as WWE Champion.

5:Bam Bam Bigelow - I was never a huge fan of Bigelow personally. He was pretty agile & athletic for a guy his size, which is never a bad thing. He had an intimidating look to him, especially with the big tattoo on his head, that made him very believable. In this day and age, a 25 year old Bigelow would often face the same sort of issues in the eyes of some fans, especially a lot of internet fans, because of his size. Some fans seem to have a bit of a bias against guys who well north of 225 pounds and give them the "you can't wrestle" treatment. When it's all said & done, I could see Bigelow as a strong monster heel World Heavyweight Champion, MAYBE even WWE Champion. Bigelow didn't have the same sort of big, thick muscularity like Mark Henry has due to his years of powerlifting and he wasn't a 7 footer like Big Show, but he could be every bit as believable in a monster heel role.
 

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