How To End Crimson's Undefeated Streak?

[ChristopherKeepsItReal]

Well, personally now that he and Morgan are TNA Tag Team Champions, this could very well be the way, where Crimson's streak is undefeated. There's very little options when it comes to Crimson's undefeated streak ender. Kurt Angle couldn't get it done, Samoa Joe couldn't get it done, Immortal couldn't get it done. So.. How to finish his streak?

• Turn Heel. The obvious one on the list, but even if he does turn on Morgan, then it'll mark the end of his streak, unless he resorts to feigning injuries to protect his streak, where he eventually becomes obsessed with it. As heel, there are more fresh stars waiting for that opportunity in breaking the streak. Besides Daniels, I don't think there's a heel who deserves the momentum. Possibly Bobby Roode, but he's already somewhat of a marked champion. But we then have James Storm, the Cowboy who never got to make one successful title defence. A possible revival on his conquest to be champion? I think it should be a personal feud IMO, but the closest to that is Matt Morgan or Joe, but Samoa Joe is past it.
  
  
• Take the Tag Titles loss. The weak option undoubtedly, it'll make it less impressive to the winners, beating Morgan. But who knows, Crimson could either take the heel option and turn on Morgan (Please don't, that match sucked), or he could just pursue the person who beat him. Not the best of options in my opinion, but it's in the book there as a possibility.
  
  
• World Championship. As a favourite of cliffhangers, one of the reasons I watched all of Taker's Wrestlemania matches (bar the one against Triple H), is because of the all or nothing risk. Not all the matches are like that, but the match against Shawn Michaels was, nonetheless. Steering back onto the course of TNA... He could just beat everybody, even in #1 Contender Matches, and then eventually come face to face with whoever the World Champion is (face or heel doesn't matter), and it could be like a Sacrifice Themed Match up. He's going to have improve versatility wise, he's not exactly the most exciting yet.
  
  
• The CM Punk Way. Arguably the frustrating lame way, have a heel like idk.. Austin Aries? Build up a list of shortcuts for himself, and place a brick of stipulations like 5:00 only, otherwise you lose.
  

HOW DO YOU THINK?

 

[Krossbreed]

i think crimson should be built to have never been pinned or sumbitted. Hi s entire career he should be undefeated. that would be good for tna...anytime they dont wanna make his oponent loose they can have the match thrown out due to run ins or injured ref or double count outs...what if goldberg never loosed onstead he did a publicity stunt that he is retiring on top returns ever so often when chellenged. crimson can be that guy for tna

 

[JWGunslinger]

I think it definitely needs to be going up against the current world champion at the time, that will make it a legitimate loss that will be accepted while still keeping Crimson a top name and he wont lose credibility. That shouldn't happen any time soon though, if you push a streak like this it will go to shit and the guy won't be taken seriously, it needs to be drawn out so he has a strong build. I would like to see him and Matt Morgan hold the tag titles for a good amount of time, meanwhile he could pick up some solid singles wins. Then when the timing worms out have him challenge for the world title and lose in a very close grueling battle, he will become a main event mainstay and one day he'll challenge for that title and win it.

 

[marklouis]

I kind of like the obsession angle. You could have Crimson get to the point where staying undefeated consumes him, & it becomes more important than winning titles. Maybe he could create his own title & defend it against jobbers, until a more established star challenges him. This could also be a way to give him a "main event" push without having to put the title on him. He could also form an alliance with Roode, since this would be similar to Roode's "selfish generation" gimmick. The biggest problem is I'm not sure Crimson is up to pulling such a gimmick off. I'm not really sure he has much personality, & I haven't been impressed with his mic skills. One thing he might have going for him is that the crowd doesn't seem to respond that well to him. It might be easier to get the crowd to turn on him. But if he could pull it off, it could be really interesting.

 

[SpecialFNK]

I'm not sure where I am compared to everyone else with my thoughts on Crimson. I think maybe I'm in the minority.
right now I don't see Crimson as this big superstar. he's only been in TNA for what 11 months? I think he should spend more time in the mid card or now tag team division while he gets experience. I wouldn't be surprised if there are still casual non regular viewers who are not sure who he even is. there could be viewers now like ohh yeah that guy.

I thought TNA had a good opportunity to end the streak back at the PPV with the triple threat match where Samoa Joe could have won. forget Goldberg, I don't think Crimson is in that level. I don't know for sure, but wasn't Joe the other guy who had a long unbeaten streak to start TNA? Joe could have been the one to beat Crimson, so maybe Joe's streak could have remained the longest to start TNA.

I like the idea of Crimson turning heel. I think he just looks heel. he looks like someone who wouldn't care what the fans think. I could probably take him more seriously as a threat if he were heel. problem is how do you turn him heel against Morgan while they're tag team champions. technically if Morgan gets pinned, that's not a loss against Crimson?
I actually think both Crimson and Morgan could be better as heels, but now they're a tag team. even if they could turn heel together as a team, how do you then split them up for singles while keeping them both heel? don't see it. if you turn one heel, then you can't really turn the other one heel until awhile after that.

if you end up having Crimson back in singles as a face still with the streak, I think the streak should end to someone where it helps that wrestler because he will be the one to end the streak. maybe someone like Daniels? he could go on and on and on gloating about how he is so great because he ended the streak.

idea. I don't remember specifically how this happened at the time. Morgan and Hernandez together were tag team champions. Hernandez was injured and missed time? did Morgan turn on him first to injury him? I know I remember Morgan having both tag team title belts and week to week he had to find a partner to wrestle as a tag team. maybe Crimson could get "injured" by Morgan unintentionally but where it looked intentional. then Crimson could miss some time to where Morgan repeats what he did before. having to defend the titles with someone else. maybe then with whoever Morgan could lose the titles, while Crimson is away "injured". then when Crimson does return he could be upset that not only Morgan is the one to put him on the shelf, but he lost the titles. Crimson could then turn heel attacking Morgan. heel turn, back in singles, and streak still alive.
maybe then at that point in a feud face Morgan could end the streak?

 

[Dagger Dias]

They have a rare opportunity to do something awesome here with Crimson. His streak needs to last for a LONG time. TNA should keep putting him over as well as the importance of his streak. Have him climb up the card to a world title reign while still undefeated. Here is the most important part though.... They need to build up somebody else at the same time. The person who will end the streak. This is very important because the bigger of a deal his streak becomes the bigger of a deal it will be when it ends. They could potentially create two new main eventers with this angle in Crimson and whoever defeats him. Or they can just mess it up with their booking and have someone like Jeff Hardy who does not even NEED the win in order to remain over be the one to defeat him.

 

[ABMorales787]

Hasn't he losed a match due to DQ and Double DQ? doesn't that sort of throw the Streak down the toliet? idk.

No. They did it with Samoa Joe too. TNA has handled streaks pretty well in the past. Joe's met it's conclusion with his first match against Kurt Angle and kicked off a long feud between the two that defined the years where TNA went from big indy company to small worldwide one. Christian also went "unpinned" in TNA until Samoa Joe beat him at Bound For Glory 2007 in a solidly built feud.

I'm not gonna pitch ideas. TNA's been with this stuff so I'll just trust they know what to do with Crimson when that time comes.

 

[New Hot Fed]

Agreed with SpecialFNK in that they had the BEST opportunity to end the streak against Joe at BFG. At the same time it would have brought back Joe as the monster he was before. Hell no problem with Crimson, he could have had the big baddest tag team with Morgan afterwards anyway(as two guys that were in that match).

As it stands I would do something out of the blue and have Erik Young pin him on tv as a fluke.

 

[Colamania]

Definitely got to turn either Crimson or Morgan, no question about it. The only problem I see with this angle is, quite simply, both of them are roughly as charismatic as a steel chair. And probably have equal mic skills too. Not a fan of either man, but I'd say overall, Crimson would pull off a heel turn ever so slightly better than Morgan, just because it would be a little unexpected, Crimson having never really been a heel.

However, the secondary option is, of course, Samoa Joe. I hope and pray that one day, TNA will wake up and realise how badly they're underusing one of their best. The perfect way to put Samoa Joe back on the top, where he DESERVES to be, is to rip through Crimson. Make it his year anniversary match - if Crimson wins, he's gone a year undefeated, if he loses, Joe's ruined the whole thing. Have Joe make him tap, destroy the run and then chase the championship after claiming he's proved himself to "still be the most dominant man in TNA" or something.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Agreed with SpecialFNK in that they had the BEST opportunity to end the streak against Joe at BFG. At the same time it would have brought back Joe as the monster he was before. Hell no problem with Crimson, he could have had the big baddest tag team with Morgan afterwards anyway(as two guys that were in that match).

As it stands I would do something out of the blue and have Erik Young pin him on tv as a fluke.

Having Joe go over him would've devalued his push. It stands to reason that the newest undefeated streak goes over the former streak holder, because it just proves that Crimson wants to keep his streak more.

I would also like to point out that giving the out of the blue loss to a jobber like Young would only work if Crimson was to turn heel afterwards. I don't see that happening because as much as I hate to admit it, TNA wants Crimson to be their Goldberg/John Cena... which means he won't be turning heel.

 

[alexikosalov]

I don't understand how TNA says Crimson is undefeated. I've seen him lose in triple threat matches more than once. That means he lost the match. If they want to say he's never been pinned or submitted, that's one thing. But he is not undefeated.

Since that's the truth, I'd have someone come out and say that. Get Crimson angry, emotional, suckering him into challenging his antagonist to a match of some kind that results in his first legit pin loss. I don't know who I would have it be. Probably Roode or Storm.

 

[New Hot Fed]

Having Joe go over him would've devalued his push. It stands to reason that the newest undefeated streak goes over the former streak holder, because it just proves that Crimson wants to keep his streak more.

But see I don't think his push has any value whatsover so him being finally defeated would not have been a problem. Joe is a supposed to be a bad ass and Crimson had a bad leg going into the match. Have just make him tap. That would make sense. Hell nobody would have mind of say...Undertaker would have tapped to Kurt Angle because Angle's speciality has always been submissions. Even more I would have added Abyss to that match to make it a really big deal how Joe was able to beat all these guys. As far as Crimson it would have been ideal if he would have lost by Matt Morgan's fault. So that they could feud afterwards. Now that they had a match but it was based on nothing.

I would also like to point out that giving the out of the blue loss to a jobber like Young would only work if Crimson was to turn heel afterwards. I don't see that happening because as much as I hate to admit it, TNA wants Crimson to be their Goldberg/John Cena... which means he won't be turning heel.

Or have Crimson laugh it off and start teaming with "his little buddy" Eric Young. But a feud heel Crimson vs EY could be fun also.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I think it depends on where you ultimately stand on the situation.

If you're someone that's been impressed with Crimson and has come to be a fan of the guy, then the ideal situation would be for him to ultimately challenge the TNA World Heavyweight Champion at some point and lose. He'd take the champ to the limit, come out looking like a bigger star than before he was before he went into the match and possibly cement his place as someone to look at when it comes to the future.

For me personally, I haven't been all that impressed with Crimson. He's never really struck me as someone that's been particularly impressive either inside the ring or on the mic. He has a good look and is athletic, but he's just never come across to me remotely as this near unbeatable force that's been ripping his way through the TNA roster. There've been constant comparings of his streak with Goldberg's in WCW and while WCW was able to convey the feeling and present Goldberg's streak as an epic event, TNA has failed to do that with Crimson. His streak just hasn't felt at all special and, for me, it's felt like something that's just been forced down people's throats week in and week out.

I'd just like to see Crimson's streak brought to an end just so they can maybe move on with him. He's not gonna be challenging the TNA WHC anytime soon, he's not headed for the main event spot for the forseeable future; so just have Morgan turn on Crimson during a match for the titles, let Crimson be the one to get pinned and get back to their feud. I admit that it sounds obvious and lazy but, as I said, neither TNA or Crimson have been remotely successful in making me give a crap about this undefeated streak.