Hey, TNA marks...
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Vincent Michaels
My weapon of choice? A green onion.
WWE thought his ideas were good.....when they ended up putting WCW out of business in 2001.
Shame, considering the direction his angle with Joe was going it didnt sound like a terrible idea
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
Is it that time of the month for D-man already?
Just like I am exhausted from my constant praise of WWE.
Or how about when he was integral in WWF pulling in the highest ratings ever.
They lost their title match two weeks before the PPV so of course they had to alter plans quickly. Other than that where is this "week to week" evidence that was not present in say the nexus angle? Shit happens, people get hurt or choke people and you have to re-evaluate. That has happened thousands of times in the wrestling industry and will continue to. There is ample evidence the stuff leading up to BFG had a long term plan behind it. Why does this not? It is a coincidence that Jarrett was using Joe before BFG and feuding with him after it? I am sure they just made that up week by week though. There may not be a formal plan for where Hardy takes his character but why is that automatically a bad thing? A big factor in Stone Cold's success was a similar freedom to come up with ideas.
Just like I am exhausted from my constant praise of WWE.
MICHAEL_NEXUS_WZ said:
Or how about when he was integral in WWF pulling in the highest ratings ever.
nickb03 said:
They lost their title match two weeks before the PPV so of course they had to alter plans quickly. Other than that where is this "week to week" evidence that was not present in say the nexus angle? Shit happens, people get hurt or choke people and you have to re-evaluate. That has happened thousands of times in the wrestling industry and will continue to. There is ample evidence the stuff leading up to BFG had a long term plan behind it. Why does this not? It is a coincidence that Jarrett was using Joe before BFG and feuding with him after it? I am sure they just made that up week by week though. There may not be a formal plan for where Hardy takes his character but why is that automatically a bad thing? A big factor in Stone Cold's success was a similar freedom to come up with ideas.
I just watched it. It has reaffirmed why I don't watch anything made by TNA.
Dull backstage segments. Blood in matches. Short matches. Cobbled together matches with no real storytelling within the ring. Bad Knockouts. Bad booking, why not have your Women's Champion on your main show?
The only redeeming features I could find was MCMG, Jay Lethal and their style of backstage segments. They may be dull but I like the shooting style.
Haha, typical blind TNA mark behaviour. Always making comparisons with WWE. Even when they're not relevant.
Dull backstage segments. Blood in matches. Short matches. Cobbled together matches with no real storytelling within the ring. Bad Knockouts. Bad booking, why not have your Women's Champion on your main show?
The only redeeming features I could find was MCMG, Jay Lethal and their style of backstage segments. They may be dull but I like the shooting style.
Is it that time of the month for D-man already?
Just like I am exhausted from my constant praise of WWE.
Or how about when he was integral in WWF pulling in the highest ratings ever.
They lost their title match two weeks before the PPV so of course they had to alter plans quickly. Other than that where is this "week to week" evidence that was not present in say the nexus angle? Shit happens, people get hurt or choke people and you have to re-evaluate. That has happened thousands of times in the wrestling industry and will continue to. There is ample evidence the stuff leading up to BFG had a long term plan behind it. Why does this not? It is a coincidence that Jarrett was using Joe before BFG and feuding with him after it? I am sure they just made that up week by week though. There may not be a formal plan for where Hardy takes his character but why is that automatically a bad thing? A big factor in Stone Cold's success was a similar freedom to come up with ideas.
Haha, typical blind TNA mark behaviour. Always making comparisons with WWE. Even when they're not relevant.
Vincent Michaels
My weapon of choice? A green onion.
Ok, so it was a combination of both.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
Typical 17 year old reading comprehension skills ...
PsychoBlack
Damn it feels good to be a Taylor!!
So, this was interesting.
Last nights impact had what might be a few of the dumbest segments that I've ever seen in my life. How the hell did Pope get into the casket, it's unrealistic and dumb never do anything like that again. Now onto the MMA thing. Jarret feared Angle coming down the whole night and Kurt was no where to be found. Not to mention none of the "MMA students" knew what they were doing seeing as how they were not even in a correct stance.
Last nights impact had what might be a few of the dumbest segments that I've ever seen in my life. How the hell did Pope get into the casket, it's unrealistic and dumb never do anything like that again. Now onto the MMA thing. Jarret feared Angle coming down the whole night and Kurt was no where to be found. Not to mention none of the "MMA students" knew what they were doing seeing as how they were not even in a correct stance.
PsychoBlack
Damn it feels good to be a Taylor!!
He comprehended that you don't know what you're talking about and that you like TNA simply because it's not WWE
Alex
King Of The Wasteland
No offence you're going on about Pope suddenly being in a casket dumb, when Undertaker does it every other week??? Yeah it was strange but still interesting. I still think Jarrett being an MMA enthusiast might be good but the way they're doing it is shit.
Please elaborate because I'm not quite sure what that means. I was just picking you up for constantly being a blind mark of a truly awful wrestling promotion.
PsychoBlack
Damn it feels good to be a Taylor!!
Undertaker has it as apart of his gimmick and the casket doesn't open close and open within a matter of no more than 45 seconds before he appears.
And with Jarret there is a way to make everything good. TNA just usually fails at doing it.
I like TNA but you can not tell me last nights show was good.
Alex
King Of The Wasteland
Truth be told it was good when I saw it, then there was ther WTF factor after, possible hidden compartment
I don't particularly like Jarrett,but it seems he's going to fued with Angle (again) and they could have him specialising in MMA so he has a move to counter Angle's ankle lock, that could make the fued a tad more interesting
Aside from the MCMG match, Katie Lea's wierd promo it was meh
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
shattered dreams said:
OK, let me rephrase. I know what the words within the sentence mean. However I do not understand what the sentence means in relation to the thread and more specifically, what I said.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
Your eyes work, why are you asking me?
Right, I'm just going to quit. You're making yourself look more stupid than your non-spam posts do.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
Are you talking about Hardy/Morgan? Because I know I wasn't. I understood that move completely after Anderson's injury. Who in the hell was talking about that match? Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills, and stop advicing others to do so.
We were talking about the Immortal angle, as a whole, which came about with Hardy turning heel.
Once again, a TNA-mark has to constantly compare what TNA does to what WWE does. This isn't about WWE. I complain about WWE all of the time, so don't give me any of that shit. In my opinion, WWE gives us a much better product than TNA, but that doesn't mean I don't root for TNA. You guys are all the same.
The bolded part is the only thing you said that made any sense.
Evidence of a long term plan? I'll tell you what the "long term plan" was. Create a HUGE heel stable, and rake in tons of cash! Well, they created a huge stable, but I doubt the cash part is going to happen. There were, and still are, holes big enough to fly a fucking 747 through. If you can't admit to that, you're out of your mind.
Why do I even bother? People like you will never see what's right in front of your face. You will just continue to take every TNA criticism and throw it back at the WWE, like that somehow makes TNA look better.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
So you are talking about Immortal, which you say came about when Hardy turned heel, being week to week, but I have poor reading skills for bringing up what he has been doing the past few weeks? Care to make a little less sense? Hardy and the title are not part of immortal?
I did not say anything bad about nexus. My question was how is the immortal thing "week to week" in comparison to what normally transpires in wrestling. Nexus is just the most recent comparable.
Bolding half a sentence? Third grade called it wants its debate "trick" back. Even worse the sentence is about Hardy which you led off by saying I couldn't read since I brought him up. Now that is the only part that makes sense? I guess makes sense in your world means "agrees with me no matter how little sense it makes or contradictory it may be."
I just won a bet with myself. Typical immortal angle bash. You say they just made it up as they went along. I provide reasons why I think that is crazy. You ignore those reasons and change the subject to it not making "sense." Who is the real question dodger here?
Where are these criticism of the wwe I said here? Just saying nexus is a criticism now? Wow that angle must have fallen from grace even worse than I thought. I said why I disagree with the idea that this is all week to week. Something you said and have yet to defend in any specific way.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
You were basically saying we had been talking about how having Morgan fill in for Kennedy made no sense, and that wasn't what we were talking about. God, you are a total moron.
I agree things, to an extent, happen week to week. But this Immortal plan wasn't well thought out, and it's painfully obvious it has gone week to week, hell maybe even day to day. Nexus has gotten somewhat stale, but at least it started off as a quality angle, something a lot of people were raving about. Immortal has not even come close to that kind of success.
I can't even...forget it, you're an idiot.
You think Jeff Hardy was the guy they wanted to lead Immortal all along? You think Hardy and Abyss doing constant battle was a part of the master plan? They beat the hell out of one another, but are now best buds? How about Hogan and Abyss beating the hell out of one another? Flair/Hogan?? What about Samoa Joe being kidnapped? Those are all reasons to come to the conclusion that this wasn't thought out very far ahead. You may not want to buy into them, but it's true.
Wow, you are blind AND stupid. Everytime someone has something negative to say about TNA, you go right back to "Well, WWE does the same thing!" It's not about WWE. This thread is about blind TNA marks, like yourself. You can't stay on topic because you have no ground to stand on, and you know it.
DirtyJosé
Best angle of all: retirement
Dude, it's TNA. I thought it went without saying that kayfabe wasn't important to them.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
No I said that was the only place I could see week to week in the immortal storyline and that there was a reason for it. Since they have become immortal everyone has been continuing conflicts that developed a while ago. How that spells week to week I have no idea. You have still yet to provide an example of what is week to week. Can you at least explain this because it is anything but obvious IMO.
Another cop out. Shocking? Not so much.
I think they have had him as the planned lead for sure for a couple of months before hand and as one of a possible few before that. There is a clear and coherent story from the whole f'in show to bfg in my opinion. Originally I think they wanted to do something with RVD but that was scrapped months ago.
So the guys in nexus never fought eachother during nxt? Constant battle is an overstatement and you know it. There were one or two incidents and one that was a fake out kayfabe. Hardly the end all.
Your definition of beating the hell out of one another is funny as hell.
Whether you agree or disagree about the motives, given the history, there is a clear story that is at least feasible and they stuck to it.
That was many months before BFG. People act like a bad angle was never dropped in wrestling before.
Actually the last of these supposed incidents took place over a month before BFG. Hardly week to week even if I bought into them. The whole tournament, that everyone bitched about lasting for MONTHS, had no planned end in your scenario. That is simply ridiculous.
Actually if you take out blind, idiot, stupid and because I said so you have no ground to stand on. This idea that all I do is say wwe did it and nothing else is ******ed.
How the hell can this be only saying wwe did it? Anyone who only sees that here is legit blind.
