Have You Ever Noticed?

[Kanye South]

Have you ever noticed that the storylines in WWE video games are better than the ones playing out on TV. For instance, in Smackdown vs. Raw 2009, a storyline was done where MVP created his own nation (or something to that effect) and he was attacking Iraqi soldiers. MVP and his "nation" fought Cena. I think this would be the perfect way to get anyone over, especially with this war we have going on. Another storyline was with Chris Jericho and cryptic messages from a masked man. Again with the right superstars, this could play out well on TV.

Another storyline which took place in Smackdown vs. Raw 2008, in which Shane and Stephanie plotted against Mr. McMahon, but blamed it on the superstar you were playing as. This could get any superstar over, and instantly make a star.

I'm sure there are other examples that I can't remember. Have you ever been playing a WWE video game and the storyline was better than what's on television. Why does the WWE do this?

 

[Tenta]

Have you ever noticed that the storylines in WWE video games are better than the ones playing out on TV.

Sigh.... Here we go again.

For instance, in Smackdown vs. Raw 2009, a storyline was done where MVP created his own nation (or something to that effect) and he was attacking Iraqi soldiers.

Remember this guy:

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I felt this gimmick was extremely poor in taste, and to some extent tainted the history of Sgt. Slaughter. And you're asking for MVP to actually attack Iraqi soldiers? There's a fine line between getting heat, and committing War Crimes. I would not have any wrestler attack actual soldiers.

MVP and his "nation" fought Cena. I think this would be the perfect way to get anyone over, especially with this war we have going on.

No, it's the perfect way to prove to those that don' watch the WWE that it is the tasteless programming they've always thought it was. It's just a completely tasteless way to capitalize on other people's misfortune. Besides that, the war is such a polarizing thing. Why even cross that line?

Another storyline was with Chris Jericho and cryptic messages from a masked man. Again with the right superstars, this could play out well on TV.

Now I'll agree this sounds like an ok idea. But then again, right now, the whole code is kind of an obscure reference.

Another storyline which took place in Smackdown vs. Raw 2008, in which Shane and Stephanie plotted against Mr. McMahon, but blamed it on the superstar you were playing as. This could get any superstar over, and instantly make a star.

Sigh.... Does no one really remember the Invasion Angle? Because this is basically what you're asking for here. Not just that, but as we've seen in this Orton/Triple H feud, no one cares to see a face Vince.

I'm sure there are other examples that I can't remember. Have you ever been playing a WWE video game and the storyline was better than what's on television. Why does the WWE do this?

Simply put, they may seem better, but that's only because they are so damn unrealistic, the sheer novelty of the matter is what makes it entertaining. Think about it.... Do you believe in a storyline in which The Undertaker creates zombies from wrestlers, complete with green skin and holes within the skin? Simply put, the video game storylines can be extremely out there, because no one expects a hint of realism in video games. No realism in the real world of professional wrestling will get shat upon. I like where you're coming from, and for the record, we need strong opinions that are as well articulated as yours. Keep posting, because you have great ideas. But this one? I guess you could try, but I'd think fans would shit all over it.

 

[Kanye South]

Sigh.... Here we go again.

I'm suggesting these ideas as ways to improve today's product. There is nothing wrong with today's product, I just think that it could use improvement. There's always room for improvement.

Remember this guy:

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I felt this gimmick was extremely poor in taste, and to some extent tainted the history of Sgt. Slaughter. And you're asking for MVP to actually attack Iraqi soldiers? There's a fine line between getting heat, and committing War Crimes. I would not have any wrestler attack actual soldiers.
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Of course he wouldn't be attacking actual soldiers. That is why we have developmental territories. And it doesn't have to be MVP. In fact, it shouldn't be, especially since he's a face now.

No, it's the perfect way to prove to those that don' watch the WWE that it is the tasteless programming they've always thought it was. It's just a completely tasteless way to capitalize on other people's misfortune. Besides that, the war is such a polarizing thing. Why even cross that line?.

I'm pretty sure the WWE has done enough things to prove that they are tasteless. They've had Man-On-Woman violence, attacking the elderly, and one time during a DX segment in 2006, I remember HHH and Candice Michelle infer that HHH was getting a blowjob and Cnadice was getting her vagina licked.

Now I'll agree this sounds like an ok idea. But then again, right now, the whole code is kind of an obscure reference.
Sigh.... Does no one really remember the Invasion Angle? Because this is basically what you're asking for here. Not just that, but as we've seen in this Orton/Triple H feud, no one cares to see a face Vince.

First off, The InVasion angle happened 8 YEARS AGO. Secondly, Vince wouldn't be face. The storyline would be Shane and Stephanie plot against Vince, however Vince does not know this. He believes that the superstar you play as (For Example: MVP) did it. So the (heel) McMahons make that (face) superstar's life a living hell, until that superstar overcomes the McMahons

Simply put, they may seem better, but that's only because they are so damn unrealistic, the sheer novelty of the matter is what makes it entertaining. Think about it.... Do you believe in a storyline in which The Undertaker creates zombies from wrestlers, complete with green skin and holes within the skin? Simply put, the video game storylines can be extremely out there, because no one expects a hint of realism in video games. No realism in the real world of professional wrestling will get shat upon. I like where you're coming from, and for the record, we need strong opinions that are as well articulated as yours. Keep posting, because you have great ideas. But this one? I guess you could try, but I'd think fans would shit all over it.

Thanks?

 

[Tenta]

I'm suggesting these ideas as ways to improve today's product. There is nothing wrong with today's product, I just think that it could use improvement. There's always room for improvement.

Which I understand. But I just don't see how taking angles from video games, especially unrealistic ones at that, are going to help.

Of course he wouldn't be attacking actual soldiers. That is why we have developmental territories. And it doesn't have to be MVP. In fact, it shouldn't be, especially since he's a face now.

Even then, I just don't feel that it's particularly smart to have wrestling fans watch soldiers attacked by their superstars. Right now, the WWE is gearing to kids, right? Well, if you know anything about kids, it's that they're extremely impressionable. What's little Joey going to think when he watches his superstars beat the hell out of soldiers, real or otherwise? I don't know, I feel like any time the WWE has tread the delicate line of war, they overstep themselves, and wind up doing something incredibly classless and disgusting.

I'm pretty sure the WWE has done enough things to prove that they are tasteless. They've had Man-On-Woman violence, attacking the elderly, and one time during a DX segment in 2006, I remember HHH and Candice Michelle infer that HHH was getting a blowjob and Cnadice was getting her vagina licked.

Meh, different era. Again, the WWE is directly attempting to attract children. I doubt you'll see an things like that on WWE programming for a long time to come.

First off, The InVasion angle happened 8 YEARS AGO. Secondly, Vince wouldn't be face.

The point isn't really to say how long ago it was, really... It's to point out that Steph and Shane attempted such a usurping of power, and no one really enjoyed it that much.

The storyline would be Shane and Stephanie plot against Vince, however Vince does not know this. He believes that the superstar you play as (For Example: MVP) did it. So the (heel) McMahons make that (face) superstar's life a living hell, until that superstar overcomes the McMahons

Well when you put it that way.... I'm even more confused. So are all of the McMahon's in collusion over this. Is Vince, Stephanie, and Shane all trying to make this wrestler's life a living hell? You'll have to excuse me, I don't play many of the games.

Thanks?

Sigh.... I get it. You probably see that as a really back handed compliment.

Look, we don't get too many good new posters here, with great ideas. Fact is, most of the posters you'll see on these forums... Well, they suck. Care for an example:

Great point. Benjamin was hot, but without a push then no one cares. How can you have a 'legendary' match with HBK and then go stale? The hot Shelton I remember would have never lost to MVP, no matter what. You're right, his fight with Undertaker was hot. Who knows what Creative will do next, maybe nothing.

And that's only a beginning to the crap we've received here.

In short, I appreciate a poster who is just beginning, has good opinions, generally cares, and is grammatically correct. And I let that poster know that.

Even if I don't agree with their idea.

 

[Deathvalley]

I'm going to crash this party the two of you seem to be having.

No I do not believe using video game storylines are going to help. The storylines used in the world of gaming are unrealistic. As in, they will never happen in real life. You were close but no cigar.

Honestly, I believe that the WWE does need to improve in some areas but it is still better than TNA who have such groups as, The Main Eventers. Really, that's how good WWE is compared to TNA. So until TNA has improved to a point where they rival the WWE, the WWE will see no reason to improve and will continue in the direction it's going.

 

[grillzman859]

i actually thought the storylines in video games were better that the real life ones
if they take a lil bit from it the storylines might be better which wrestling will actually be "watchable"... well at least for the people who complain about it

 

[RicSpade]

Well to be honest part of the reason the storylines are better on the games then the real life ones is because they aren't written by Raw and Smackdowns head writers, because if we haven't seen it in the past their head writers have come up with some god awful trash (remember katie vick and big boss man making Al Snow eat his own dog?)
The second thing is which has been referred to several times there is really no limit to what you can do in a video game, you can create a zombie santino or finlay or whatever and have them eat brains and throw a guy off of the big giant fist off the old Smackdown! set, but really now a days its too dangerous to do that, and the WWE has done its best to stray away from the lame ass gimmicks of the early 90's.

Really imagine for one second if Undertaker really did make zombies (btw we had a zombie on ECW once for those who don't remember the first episode of ECW on Sci-Fi) it would be like a really strange version of the ministry and would really have no go power. Next you'd be bringing in another Viking like Beserker, and then you'd revive Doink the Clown, Brooklyn Brawler, a second Kane, a fifth Undertaker, a black bodyguard named Virgil, an inmate that looks like Festus, and you'll start teaming a mountie with a cop and and start the prison connection. It's just going to bring back the gimmicks that WWE strayed away from during the beginning of the attitude era, and make TNA look almost less stupid then it is with all the other lame gimmicks they have running around.

 

[hArdyPUNKmArk]

Look, we don't get too many good new posters here, with great ideas. Fact is, most of the posters you'll see on these forums... Well, they suck. Care for an example:

i actually thought the storylines in video games were better that the real life ones
if they take a lil bit from it the storylines might be better which wrestling will actually be "watchable"... well at least for the people who complain about it

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA WTF?!

Anyways, the reason video games can sometimes have better storylines than TV is because (as others have noted) there is no limit to what can be done. With a video game you can do anything. You could have Kane literally burning people, you could have Cryme Tyme shooting 15 bullets into Triple H's head or you could have Kelly Kelly and Maryse giving you a strip tease. You can do anything. Whack an MA15+ sticker on the game and you're set.

On TV WWE needs to watch what they do as they're trying to pull the kiddy ratings and there is no way a parent is going to want their kid watching something like what you can get in these video games. Also to see actual people doing some of these things as apposed to a polygon would be rediculous.

In ending, yes video game storylines may seem funner and more enjoyable but to put that into "reality" wouldn't help todays product.

Nice idea though, interesting topic.

 

[AndarielHalo]

Are you serious?


Undertaker turning Santino Marella or Finlay into a real life legit zombie with green skin and no pupils?

Are you serious?


MVP crippling active-duty American soldiers?


Are you serious?


Re-forming DX for the eightieth time?


Are you serious?


Mystery of the mysterious masked man who attacks Chris Jericho and is revealed to be... VINCE RUSSO?! I mean, Kennedy Kennedy and some other cretin whose name I forgot that turns out to be the complete opposite of shock and surprise?!


Are you serious?


Shane McMahon and Stephanie McMahon stealing the company from their dad... AGAIN... and screwing around... AGAIN...?


Are you serious?



Dropping "The Rock" references for fucking weeks, then completely retconning them all by bringing in Roddy Piper as an ACTIVE WRESTLER?


Are you SERIOUS?!


No, you can't be serious. You're fucking with us. You're joking. This is a good joke, sir and/or madam.



The last greatest WWE video game storyline I ever saw was from Wrestlemania XIX, in which you are fired, and then hired by Stephanie McMahon to literally KILL SECURITY GUARDS AND WRESTLERS (or doing such things as getting in a contest with Eddie Guerrero at the top of a skyscraper to see who can throw the most security guards off the edge in ten minutes! And how hard can BATISTA swim after being tossed off the edge of a cargo ship fifty feet to the river below?) and destroy not only WWE, but PUBLIC PROPERTY in order to sabotage Wrestlemania, in which you get off for destruction of public property AND multiple counts of murder by beating Vince McMahon in a wrestling match.


THAT, sir or madam, is the GREATEST WWE video game Storyline EVER!

 

[TerryMagowan]

reading this forum im surpirsed nobody mentioned..suicide, which is a good example of a wrestling promotion taking something from their video game.
Not in the same aspect of course..in the game Suicide is a wrestler who has forgot his identity and fights for the TNA title..i doubt we're ever gonna see Suicide reach main event level to be honest

my opinion: Leave whats in the game in the game.

 

[Dave]

What!?

Are you serious?

I'm pretty sure everything I will say in this reply will have been already said but I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway.

I personally liked some of the storylines in SVR this year but come on, it's a game and as such should be treated that way. It is completely fictional and has a phenomenal ammount of scope for stroylines. I for one could crreate a good wrestling company if I had a superstar who could posses people and turn them into zombie wrestlers.

The thing about the military getting there ass kicked is just silly. I mean people are so easy to annoy at the minute when it comes to wars, racism, soldiers etc and this is not to be used to your advantage. Make no mistake if Vince wass to put a stroyline like this into fruition then it would result in a backlash from fans like he had never seen before. People will always back up the military because they are putting there lives on the line and no one would accept them being belittled on a wrestling show, especially when they are national heros. Never gonna happen.

Plus I think it is just a little too soppy for me.

 

[King Patrick Star]

The storylines from video games that I’m familiar with are the ones from SvR 07. I remember one particular storyline that had HBK forming a new stable with young up and comers including Shelton Benjamin. I think something like that could work. I can’t recall all the details, but I do remember it having to do with a DX reunion. Some are good enough or even better for TV and some are just out there. It all depends, I guess.

 

[Tasch69]

i saw mention about the Suicide character from the TNA video game...that is why TNA isnt all that good...because they DO take storylines from video games...the WWE storylines may be pretty lame the last couple years...but at least MOST of them are understandable

 

[Thumz9814]

I actually think the reason the video game storylines are so much more appealing than the actual storylines is because the main focus (at least, from your characters point of view) is on different superstars.

Think about it, HHH and Batista hate Orton. Orton is a power hungry maniac. Edge only wants the gold, and hasn't won in a fair fight in at least 4 years (probably). John Cena is either the biggest face, or the worst heel in everybody's eyes, and the big show is a tool...........all of those facts have been driven in to our heads for the past several years. It's the same basic crap over and over and over again. There really isn't much of a change between the world title storylines of today, and the ones back in 2006. Sure, the reasons for the hatred between Orton and the rest of Evolution have changed a bit, and Edges methods of cheats for the title alter every now and then, but it's still the same stuff.

That's the reason why video game storylines are so damn appealing. Not necessarily because they're unrealistic, but because the superstars are in different situations. And different superstars are getting in on the action. It's like when you listen to the 4th cd of your favorite band, and you realize it sounds exactly like the last three. Kind of gets stale, doesn't it? Sure, it's still good, but it's the same stuff over and over again. If they would release something different, it may not be as good, but at least it's a change, at least they're branching out.

Same with wwe, they need to branch out a bit. get out of the norm (not necessarily into the paranormal) and get people interested again.

A good example of this would be HBK/Taker storyline leading up to WM25. Everybody knows the Undertaker always does his scare tactic where he goes to a cemetery and attempts to scare his opponent with a "Rest In Peace" speech. Well, whuddya know, the "RIP" speech was done again-but wait-it was done by HBK this time? weird... But it worked. It was different, but not necessarily unrealistic, and it caught peoples attention. The writers need to look at examples like this, and draw from it.

 

[Kanye South]

Are you serious?


Undertaker turning Santino Marella or Finlay into a real life legit zombie with green skin and no pupils?

I never mentioned this in my original post. Now if you had read it, then maybe we wouldn't have this problem.

Are you serious?


MVP crippling active-duty American soldiers?

Of course they wouldn't be actual soldiers. That's why we have FCW.

Are you serious?


Re-forming DX for the eightieth time?

We all know that they're going to do this anyway, with HBK retiring. And I'd rather have them actually do stuff, than make lame jokes. And if they make jokes, they're going to be very, very lame now that Michaels is Christian. Plus wasn't a DX tour announced for this year?

Are you serious?


Mystery of the mysterious masked man who attacks Chris Jericho and is revealed to be... VINCE RUSSO?! I mean, Kennedy Kennedy and some other cretin whose name I forgot that turns out to be the complete opposite of shock and surprise?!

It was Randy Orton, and with the right superstars, this could be a brilliant storyline. Plus it actually will create suspense, over who did it.

Are you serious?


Shane McMahon and Stephanie McMahon stealing the company from their dad... AGAIN... and screwing around... AGAIN...?

Look what it's done for Stone Cold. Look what's it's done for Randy Orton. Look at how it gave DX a purpose in 2006. McMahon screwjobs are always a way to get a superstar over.

Are you serious?


Dropping "The Rock" references for fucking weeks, then completely retconning them all by bringing in Roddy Piper as an ACTIVE WRESTLER?

Never mentioned this.

Are you SERIOUS?!


No, you can't be serious. You're fucking with us. You're joking. This is a good joke, sir and/or madam.

No I'm not joking.

The last greatest WWE video game storyline I ever saw was from Wrestlemania XIX, in which you are fired, and then hired by Stephanie McMahon to literally KILL SECURITY GUARDS AND WRESTLERS (or doing such things as getting in a contest with Eddie Guerrero at the top of a skyscraper to see who can throw the most security guards off the edge in ten minutes! And how hard can BATISTA swim after being tossed off the edge of a cargo ship fifty feet to the river below?) and destroy not only WWE, but PUBLIC PROPERTY in order to sabotage Wrestlemania, in which you get off for destruction of public property AND multiple counts of murder by beating Vince McMahon in a wrestling match.

THAT, sir or madam, is the GREATEST WWE video game Storyline EVER!

What in the fucking blue hell is this abomination of words?

 

[CyrusTheVirus=ECW]

its already been said but the reason storylines in games are more interesting is because there unrealistic. ya i enjoyed most storylines in games like the jericho one in svr 09 and it would kinda interesting to see that in reality. Undertaker turning people in zombies is rediculous. and like someone already mentioned tna did this with suicide although he hasnt really been anything like portrayed in the game. if tna wanted to copy the game exactly, suicide would be heading to the main event level and possible looking for revenge on LAX(if u knew the storyline for the game then u know why).

 

[Twanfusco]

I think most ppl replying to this post have missed the posters point. What he seems to be trying 2 say is that the storylines on svr 2009 are more entertaining than what we see on t.v, and with the exception of the taker\zombie storyline I think they are all realistic and could be done in real life, I'm not saying those exact ones shud b done and I don't think that's wot the poster was saying either. The soldier being beaten up may not go down well but u have 2 remember that the good guy always comes out on top in these kind of storylines so it maybe wud work. The dx reunion storyline was good too in the game bcos u got 2 choose btween evolution and dx, whilst it wouldn't work now, a year ago it mite have. The cm punk one where he is too extreme for the new ecw wud totally work today as well.

The reason I think the storylines in this particular game are of a better quality than real life is because they can plan out the entire story ahead of time whereas in real life it seems at least that the writers do not know entirely where they are going with a storyline or how long it will last. Anyone replying to this thread having not even played svr 2009 are not worthy of an opinion btw.