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I'm surprised I haven't seen anything on this. It's quite possibly the most interesting thing on TNA right now.

Anyway, a few months ago, we saw the debut of Winter(aka Katie Lea) as a more dark character. She turned her attention to the Beautiful People, more specifically, Angelina Love, appearing when nobody was around, playing mind games, etc. Eventually, she and Angelina won the Knockout's tag titles. They lost them(apparently due to Velvet Sky). Since then, we've seen Angelina in a trance being controlled by Winter, even going as far as attacking Velvet Sky. My questions are:

1. Do you enjoy this storyline?

2. Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending?
 
1 Do you enjoy this storyline? I haven't really thought about it recently but yes, I think I do. When it had first started and was consisted of simply Winter showing up randomly, I was sort of getting bored with it. Not that it wasn't entertaining but it didn't seem to have any direction and watching Winter keep on disappearing before Velvet saw her was starting to get both old and predictable. But then the whole thing heated up and things started to get hot, and we've seen some good sparks between the Beautiful People come out of this which won't hurt anybody. I also think it's nice to have a darker diva back on the roster, especially after Daffney drifted away. Not that I particularly think Katie Lea or Winter can fill such large boots, it's definitely nice occasionally seeing something more than just eye candy now and then.

2 Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending? I see it ending in a match. Weird? Right. No, but I see it being Winter against Velvet Sky and it is for the control or the rights to Angelina Love. Velvet would come out the victor and you have Team Eye Candy back in no time. It's not that I wouldn't like to see them just part ways, but I don't think they can. I really feel that they both complete each other, even if it sounds corny. I just feel like they are worth or a lot less valuable when they're apart, and it isn't like they aren't popular or relevant because they most definitely are. Pretty sure it would go down at Sacrifice though, I know it seems a little drawn out but you need some time for some good build and who knows what Winter does next? Not saying she'll be thrown out, unless I don't think so, but I can't see any real future feuds that would actually make sense and she's something fresh which is always good. So basically, I see it ending in a Velvet/Winter match for Angelina and I'm pretty sure we'll get a Angelina versus Velvet somewhere between now and then too. :)
 
It's quite possibly the most interesting thing on TNA right now.

If that was true, I'd stop watching Impact.

1. Do you enjoy this storyline?

Not really. I've always disliked when supernatural elements are used in wrestling stories. It's the biggest reason why I've never been as into the Undertaker as most fans. I just appreciate wrestling more when they do their best to try and preserve the realism, and these kind of angles/stories/gimmicks just ruin that for me.

On top of that, The Beautiful People just had a big break-up/reunion angle last year. I'd much rather see a united Angelina and Velvet going up against Sarita and Rosita for the tag belts than this.

2. Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending?

I don't really care, but I would assume Winter's control gets broken by either some plan that Velvet comes up with or just some random shit like Angelina getting hit in the head or something. Then you end up with a Winter/Angelina revenge feud. How else would it end?
 
Totally uninterested in this fued, winter is probably one of the worst female wrestlers in the buisness and she has one of the worst gimmicks( as Rasha said) I dont like supernatural elements in wrestling, I know wrestling is fake but it goes to far into having to suspend the reality of it.

I dont care where this story is going the only good thing about it is we get to see a whole lot of Velvet Skys ass.
 
1. Do you enjoy this storyline?
Ya, and I've actually been enjoying it for quite a while. It really showcases one of the things the WWE "Divas" devision lack. But than again, WWE's Diva's devision lacks everything, so it isn't hard to showcase what they lack.

2. Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending?
A fued between Winter and Valvet, where Angelina helps Winter more earlier on, only to eventually help out her best friend again.



1 I also think it's nice to have a darker diva back on the roster, especially after Daffney drifted away.
Get. The FUCK. Off.
I can't stand hearing this crap name applied to anything, let alone such talanted female performers as the TNA Knockouts.
Diva stands more for something like the upper definition here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=diva&defid=247799
 
1. Do you enjoy this storyline?


No, I am not enjoying it. I am liking seeing the BP having a bit of a fall out. As great as they have been in TNA, it is at least freshening them up a bit, but I do not like the Winter character at all. She just seems awkward and a bit weird, and I think Katie Lea should have been introduced in a different way. She is a good wrestler and this gimmick does not suit her, although it is giving her some TV time.

2. Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending?

It is inevitably going to come down to a Winter v Velvet Sky match for the freedom of Angelina, but I am unsure as to who will come out on top. I am leaning towards Winter, so that it will provide us with a feud between the former two members of the BP. That hasnt been seen before and would be something different
 
First off I have to agree with Rasha, in that if this was the best thing in TNA, I most probably wouldn’t be watching TNA.

I have nothing against using super natural storylines in wrestling though, as I see a wrestling show as a bit like a variety show. So the more variety there is, the better it is for me (this is probably why I can’t watch WWE, it all seems the same – Face A vs Heel B).

As to whether I’m enjoying this storyline? It’s ok. I don’t really take much interest in the Knockouts segments (unless it involves Velvet Sky, Miss Tessmacher or some other hot chick) but I do follow this angle and maybe that’s because Velvet is involved? However, I seriously don’t like this Winter girl. I would like to think it’s because she is becoming a good heel, but she is the only person in TNA that has me thinking about changing the channel when she is on, so I don’t think that is the case.

I just find her really annoying and don’t like the fact she is splitting up the Beautiful People. Again the fact that I don’t like her splitting up the Beautiful People, could mean she is doing well as a heel? I can’t really put my finger on it but there’s definitely something I can’t stand about Winter.

I’m hoping this angle ends in Velvet kicking Winter’s arse and gaining back the trust and friendship of Angelina Love. However, in order to progress things, the better thing to do would be to have Winter getting the better of Velvet, eventually leading to an Angelina Love/Velvet Sky series. I don't want this to happen though because some teams, IMO, need one another. The Beautiful People and the Motor City Machine Guns spring to mind. Although I always thought Team 3D needed one another, and just look at Bully Ray right now. Completely destroys the opinion I have of some teams.
 
Ugh.

This storyline had so much potential. So much potential to do something completely new and unprecedented, or at the very least something realistic. I mean, that's what TNA is all about, right? "Full shoot brother! Everything is real, brother! Let's make our backstage segments unlistenable in the name of it not being a work, brother!".

I love Winter. I think she's a great wrestler with a sexy accent, she's very attractive, and her character really suits her. I thought the way the storyline started out was interesting and fun. I liked seeing Winter as Angelina's stalker with a crush. I thought it could really go places and it was the only reason I bothered looking TNA up on Youtube weekly.

And then the mind control happened. Look, don't get me wrong - I like gimmicky stories and characters, but only if they can exist in the universe in which they are presented. Mind control does not work with the "realistic" direction that TNA claims to be going in. It would be like writing a novel set in an 1800's idyllic country setting, and then on page 289 throwing an alien in there. It just does not make sense within the rules of fiction that TNA has established.

On top of all that, isn't it just a bit tasteless to have two drug storyline/gimmicks (This, and RVD) going on while your top star is currently battling his severe drug problems?!

How I would have done it:

Why couldn't Angelina just have learned to like Winter? Instead of this hokey mind control bullshit, go for a more realistic route. Slowly, Angelina starts to realize that despite her quirks, Winter is actually a nice person. Have Angelina slowly fall for Winter, with Velvet acting as the jealous former-best-friend who claims that Angelina's relationship with Winter is tearing them apart. I mean, that is something that happens in real life - One friend gets into a relationship and it takes over the friend's life, leaving the other friends to be left alone, feeling like they're losing their friend. Hell, it happened to the Beatles.

Anyway, if it had happened like this it would have been unprecedented and interesting, a gay relationship treated as something completely natural. If it had gone without comment, it could have broken new ground, while still making for a great story as long as TNA didn't try to stereotype it. Eventually, Winter and Velvet could have had a match, not over the rights to Angelina (because that would be stupid) but just a match as a way of airing out their grievances with each other.

For a lighter and softer version, they could have just had Winter and Angelina turn into BFFs, with Velvet as the former BFF being left out in the cold. Either way it would have worked. And either way it would have been better than drug-induced mind control. Seriously.
 
On top of all that, isn't it just a bit tasteless to have two drug storyline/gimmicks (This, and RVD) going on while your top star is currently battling his severe drug problems?!

How I would have done it:

Why couldn't Angelina just have learned to like Winter? Instead of this hokey mind control bullshit, go for a more realistic route. Slowly, Angelina starts to realize that despite her quirks, Winter is actually a nice person. Have Angelina slowly fall for Winter, with Velvet acting as the jealous former-best-friend who claims that Angelina's relationship with Winter is tearing them apart. I mean, that is something that happens in real life - One friend gets into a relationship and it takes over the friend's life, leaving the other friends to be left alone, feeling like they're losing their friend. Hell, it happened to the Beatles.

Anyway, if it had happened like this it would have been unprecedented and interesting, a gay relationship treated as something completely natural. If it had gone without comment, it could have broken new ground, while still making for a great story as long as TNA didn't try to stereotype it. Eventually, Winter and Velvet could have had a match, not over the rights to Angelina (because that would be stupid) but just a match as a way of airing out their grievances with each other.

For a lighter and softer version, they could have just had Winter and Angelina turn into BFFs, with Velvet as the former BFF being left out in the cold. Either way it would have worked. And either way it would have been better than drug-induced mind control. Seriously.

RVD's probably had his drug gimmick longer than Hardy's been usin' and abusin' but at least RVD has a hold on his habit rather than the other way round. Plus his comment to Anderson in the rafters, "Oh it's 4.20, that means you're about to get smoked!" was one of the funniest lines I've heard from him in a while.

I like your idea and for a while I thought that's the kind of territory it would seep into, although thinking that TNA would handle a gay storyline tastefully between 2 Knockouts is fairly unlikely!

To answer the OP, I enjoyed the start of this story but as its developed its gone downhill. Personally I think its a bit of a waste to have one of your best KO's in Angelina become a zombie more-or-less. When she was gone due to the visa issues the division missed her, and relegating her to essentially a prop between Winter and Sky isn't what she deserves.

I'm not sure where it's going to go, Sky doesn't seem as strong on her own and has always benefited from having Love around her so I'd hope the resolution brings them back together.
 
It started as a knock of the Hogan/Warrior feud from WCW. Minus a good level of stupidity. Then it came ahead nicely with the issues with Velvet. Then when you think the story would climax in some sort of outrageous 3 way lesbian angle, it turns into this. Apparently Winter learned magic from Rita Repulsa and put Angelina Love under an "evil" spell that can only be undone by making her stop drinking from a bottle. Yeah, this is dumb. TNA really dropped the ball on what could've been quite an edgy and maybe even sex-driven storyline. Letting the pidgeons loose draws. Not watching them bicker with a zombie.
 
I can't stand hearing this crap name applied to anything, let alone such talanted female performers as the TNA Knockouts.

Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Honestly though, is there much of a difference anymore? And of course I'm sure you have totally cut yourself off from WWE and I don't want this to turn into a WWE versus TNA debate but when it comes down to it, they really aren't that different. Both brands have their eye candy, lot's of it at that, and both brands have a handful of women who do work their asses off and who are much tougher than the rest of the bunch. Want examples? Look at Beth Phoenix, Natalya, Trish Stratus or soon to be diva Awesome Kong. Knockouts or diva's, it isn't like their is this huge gap between them anymore. I say anymore because at one point, there was, but it has seemed to almost start to diminish over the years. What you need to realize is that while they call them Knockouts, it was really nothing more than something to separate them from the competition. It's just a different name, and in my eyes, most of the girls on the roster are meant to be or are diva's anyways.
 
1. Do you enjoy this storyline?

No I don't enjoy the storyline. I admit I found it somewhat interesting at first but now I feel it has just jumped the shark. It's just become so unbelievable now.

If they really wanted to break up TBP why do it this way? There are a lot of realistic reasons for them to break up without bringing in a character like Winter and making Angelina a zombie. I don't necessarily want them to break up but there are better ways of doing it than with this Winter storyline.

Though I don't get why they are doing this Angelina & Velvet haven't been back together that long. It's bad enough TNA didn't do much with them as a team since the reunited they couldn't even let them finally hold the worthless KO tag titles together.

So why put them back together just break them up again?

2. Where do you see it going/how do you see it ending?

After what happened last night I don't know how it will end. Whatever happens though I can't see Angelina and Velvet going right back to being best friends. So I'm guessing it ends with them splitting.

Hopefully Velvet will get a real singles run because she does deserve to have some success outside of TBP. That's the only positive thing I can see coming from this angle.
 

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