Guys who fans THINK will be world champion but probably WON'T

[That N Word]

I made this thread because I was thinking about how almost every star that debuted in NXT recently has been dubbed by the IWC a "future world champion."

I say that is not exactly true. When it comes to guys like Kevin Owens,Sami Zayn,and Finn Balor. I think it is a FACT that they will be world champion one day.

However, with guys like Hideo Iltami,Solomone Crowe and Neville I just don't see it. Not because of size or any of that stuff.

In Hideo Iltami's case, it is his mic skills that are just terrible.

Some may say well look at Roman Reigns. Well, Roman had his problems on the mic but wasn't nearly as bad. Only problem with Reigns was his corny cartoon catchphrases and delivery. But Roman has improved alot and can hold his own on the mic. So please refrain from that excuse.

Also, on him I do have to say his size as well.

In Neville's case, it is just poor booking. Some would say he has been booked perfectly. But he has not and that is far from the truth. There is a major difference in being booked strong and great booking.

Neville has been booked strong, but he hasn't been booked like a future world champion. Hell, I'll go on the limb and say since leaving NXT and coming to WWE he has been downright boring. Great matches, but has been boring otherwise.

He feels like he is just Dolph Ziggler's NXT rookie or something, rather than a superstar.

People complain about thrown together feuds such as Show/Reigns, and Harper/Ambrose. But both feuds were far better than Neville/Barrett. Hell, can we even call it a feud. I don't blame Neville...I blame WWE for poor booking.

In the case of Solomon Crowe, it is just how he is booked in NXT. If they don't care enough to make you a top tier talent in NXT. Then, they damn sure won't on the main roster.

MAYBE, Crowe will be WWE WHC, But he feels like another case of CM Punk. They hire him for publicity and then not care enough to do nothing with him until he makes something happen on his own.


Others I feel may never be WWE WHC

Damien Sandow
Tyler Breeze

Who I feel will be WWE WHC
(of the ones who isn't main eventers in WWE)
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Finn Balor
Titus O'Neil
Cesaro
Tyson Kidd
Rusev
Bull Dempsey
Ryback (Maybe)

 

[chuckmdubya]

Gotta disagree on Hideo.
As we know, the most important thing in WWE, or any business, is making money. An Asian champ would help them out a lot marketing in Asia, and that is a huge market that they don't utilize to its full capacity. An Asian champ who can connect with fans and speak their language.
He will be a big star because of his overseas marketability, WWE will do everything they can to make sure.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

In Neville's case, it is just poor booking. Some would say he has been booked perfectly. But he has not and that is far from the truth. There is a major difference in being booked strong and great booking.

Neville has been booked strong, but he hasn't been booked like a future world champion. Hell, I'll go on the limb and say since leaving NXT and coming to WWE he has been downright boring. Great matches, but has been boring otherwise.

He feels like he is just Dolph Ziggler's NXT rookie or something, rather than a superstar.

Here's the problem though: Neville has only been on the main roster for, what, 6 weeks or so? In terms of Neville being anywhere near the World Championship, it's FAR too early to even mention the two in the same conversation. As a result, of course he hasn't been booked like a future World Champion; how many wrestlers have looked like future World Champions within 1.5 months of being on the main roster since Brock Lesnar's first run? Off the top of my head, I can't think of any and Neville looks like he's firmly in the mid-card scene, he'll probably be in the IC title EC match, and I think it's where he belongs right now. Also, what exactly is "perfect booking?" I don't think it exists. However, considering how new Neville is to the main roster and how he's been featured, it's hard to blame people for being pleased because, in my eyes, the guy's looked like a star in his matches, especially against Rollins and Cena. Sure, he didn't pin either of the guys in those matches, nor should he have since he was against the reigning WWE World Heavyweight Champion and a guy that's been WWE Champion 15 times, is the reigning US champ and has been the undisputed "face" of the company for a decade, yet he looked extremely strong against them. As far as heading into the main event picture, I agree that Neville will need more development as far as his persona goes. He's not gonna be The Rock on the mic, but he's demonstrated some pretty solid mic work in NXT.

 

[xTUGx]

With guys like Hideo Iltami,Solomone Crowe and Neville I just don't see it. Not because of size or any of that stuff.

In Hideo Iltami's case, it is his mic skills that are just terrible.

Some may say well look at Roman Reigns. Well, Roman had his problems on the mic but wasn't nearly as bad. Only problem with Reigns was his corny cartoon catchphrases and delivery. But Roman has improved alot and can hold his own on the mic. So please refrain from that excuse.

Also, on him I do have to say his size as well.

In Neville's case, it is just poor booking. Some would say he has been booked perfectly. But he has not and that is far from the truth. There is a major difference in being booked strong and great booking.

Neville has been booked strong, but he hasn't been booked like a future world champion. Hell, I'll go on the limb and say since leaving NXT and coming to WWE he has been downright boring. Great matches, but has been boring otherwise.

He feels like he is just Dolph Ziggler's NXT rookie or something, rather than a superstar.

People complain about thrown together feuds such as Show/Reigns, and Harper/Ambrose. But both feuds were far better than Neville/Barrett. Hell, can we even call it a feud. I don't blame Neville...I blame WWE for poor booking.

In the case of Solomon Crowe, it is just how he is booked in NXT. If they don't care enough to make you a top tier talent in NXT. Then, they damn sure won't on the main roster.

MAYBE, Crowe will be WWE WHC, But he feels like another case of CM Punk. They hire him for publicity and then not care enough to do nothing with him until he makes something happen on his own.

I've got to disagree with you on these.

In the case of Hideo Itami those problems can be easily bypassed by simply giving him a manager. So long as WWE don't give him some stupid gimmick like they did with Kung Funaki, Yoshi Tatsu or even Tensai. However, if they book him like ROH did or even as they have in NXT then I think we will see him elevate through the ranks until he becomes world champ. Add to this the fact that he is someone the kids and women will cheer for as well as the IWC. Also the fact that WWE chose him of all people to represent the NXT brand at Wrestlemania this year in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal shows that things are looking good in his future.

With Neville, sure his run hasn't been very good so far, but you can argue the same with how Ziggler started (as some little twerp going round shaking big stars hands). Now I know Ziggler is still in a bit of a tough situation but he is still an established star and has been World Champ. All it really takes is the backing of the WWE Universe as well as the backing of the management. With Neville, he was booked so well on NXT and he was in fact the 4th out of 6 people to hold the NXT Championship which shows he is on a good track. But the next 3-4 months are crucial for him and a bit shaky but if he pulls through it he is fine.

Now onto Solomon Crowe. Just for a second, lets take a look at Sami Zayn. Early on in his NXT days so many people were saying his booking isn't good and WWE don't care enough about him so they are just tossing him around but then after his 2 out of 3 falls match with Cesaro it all changed. I think Crowe is still in his early days and with NXT they are testing out ways of getting them started when they reach the main roster and ways they can get him super over. Crowe has the potential to do big things including being the World Champ. Just give him time dude.

 

[cornerdon26]

Current WWE and NXT roster I can see as a Champion who have never won it
Kevin Owens - I can see 1 or 2 very dominant runs with the belt
Finn Balor - I can see Balor actually having a Punk-esque long reign with the title. Can even see him winning a Rumble to capture the belt at Mania.
Sami Zayn - I see him having a couple of short runs with the belt but due to fan reaction and get heat on the next heel Champ. Can see him winning through a MITB cash in to a massive reaction
Wade Barrett - I think they will pull the trigger at some point only if he ever becomes a true face. He will win it in England if he does
Roman Reigns - Nothing needs to be said
Hideo Itami - I see him aligning with Heyman at some point. Heyman can big up the ECW angle signing international talent and he is the reason Itami is in the WWE. I think he could make a lot of money for the company
Ryback - I still think he will have a run with the belt but as a heel.
Bray Wyatt - I think he will win but they will cock up the run and it will flop. Can see him being more of a Kane than an Undertaker
Rusev - Unfortunately the Cena loss, and the other Cena loss, and the other Cena loss will all hurt him. I really felt they should have gone all out with him from the start. He will have a couple of reigns but won't be as special unless he dominates Cena

Current WWE and NXT roster I can't see ever becoming a champion
Dean Ambrose - This generations Jake the Snake and Roddy Piper. If he does win the belt he will probably be a transitional champion.
Cesaro - I would absolute love to see it, but I can't see him ever making it. I feel after his post Wrestlemania 30 depush that was it for being a World Champ.
Neville - I just can't see him as a Champion. I wouldn't be surprised to see a failed MITB cash in after announcing the match in advance. I see him being involved with the IC title a lot and in a Ziggler role without ever winning the big one.
Sandow - Such a shame they didn't let him be Damien Sandow after the Miz angle. A funny charming character with a slight aggressive side could have worked. No saving him now.

I am sorry but I cannot see how anyone believes Tyson Kidd or Titus O'Neill will ever be a World Champion. It is too late for Rhodes. Too early to judge on Corbin and Crowe in my eyes. If Tyler Breeze tweaks his gimmick is could happen, but right now no.

 

[BringThePain834]

If booking is the only thing the OP has against Neville (his bookings been fine IMO) can't that easily by fixed in like.. a few weeks. It's not like the WWE can't just book whoever they choose to strong for a few weeks to turn them into a main eventer. Ziggler started out as a golf caddie and cheerleader and can still be booked as a world champion. Neville's starting out having really good competitive matches with established wresters. I'd say he has a head start compared to most wrestlers debut pushes. I think Neville who's been booked fine since he arrived can overcome his "bad booking."

 

[Prince Vee]

I got one name I seriously want to see as the World Champion and who'll never be I'm afraid. To be honest, he should've had multiple title reigns as world champion already. I don't understand why he's being sidelined all the time. Okay his injuries played its role in his downfall but its seriously WWE creative's fault to waste such a talent by changing his gimmicks, curtailing his momentums and so on.

You should be wondering who it is. Look down at my signature and you'll know. In case you aren't smart enough I'll write it down for you. WADE BARRETT

Cheers!!

 

[Kris Benwa]

Here's the problem though: Neville has only been on the main roster for, what, 6 weeks or so? In terms of Neville being anywhere near the World Championship, it's FAR too early to even mention the two in the same conversation. As a result, of course he hasn't been booked like a future World Champion; how many wrestlers have looked like future World Champions within 1.5 months of being on the main roster since Brock Lesnar's first run? Off the top of my head, I can't think of any and Neville looks like he's firmly in the mid-card scene, he'll probably be in the IC title EC match, and I think it's where he belongs right now. Also, what exactly is "perfect booking?" I don't think it exists. However, considering how new Neville is to the main roster and how he's been featured, it's hard to blame people for being pleased because, in my eyes, the guy's looked like a star in his matches, especially against Rollins and Cena. Sure, he didn't pin either of the guys in those matches, nor should he have since he was against the reigning WWE World Heavyweight Champion and a guy that's been WWE Champion 15 times, is the reigning US champ and has been the undisputed "face" of the company for a decade, yet he looked extremely strong against them. As far as heading into the main event picture, I agree that Neville will need more development as far as his persona goes. He's not gonna be The Rock on the mic, but he's demonstrated some pretty solid mic work in NXT.

I agree with this. You can even make a case Neville had Cena beat seeing as how he had just come off with a beautiful Red Arrow before Rusev interfered. I think Neville has been booked perfectly fine for someone who's been on the main roster for about a month. He was one of the favorites to win KOTR and I'm sure he's one of the favorites to win the chamber for the IC title as well. I mean this definitely seems like above average booking of a main roster rookie to me.

When it comes to Barrett, I think his injuries are what really screwed him over and now the fact that there's only 1 world title and that there are higher heels on the totem pole than him his chance has passed him by.

Maybe I'm lost but people have Balor as a future champ but Neville as not one but I don't really see this huge of gap of talent between them. Neville is jacked, has cool pointy ears, a cape, and can do cool aerial maneuvers which impress both adults and kids alike. I don't understand

 

[Papa Pillman]

Who I feel will be WWE WHC
(of the ones who isn't main eventers in WWE)
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Finn Balor
Titus O'Neil
Cesaro
Tyson Kidd
Rusev
Bull Dempsey
Ryback (Maybe)

Titus is 38 years old and was just recently put back in a tag team that can't even crack the middle of the tag team pack. And he's woefully below par in the ring. Predicting that he will eventually hold the World title is laughable levels of ignorant optimism, no matter how much you like the guy. He will likely never even hold a midcard singles title.

Also Kidd is at best an extreme longshot. The IC title mix is a more acceptable ceiling for any future that awaits Kidd as a singles competitor.

I'm not even going to start on your predicting Bull as future champ, I'm skeptical that he will even have a full time singles run on the main roster, and if he does, it will be as a lower-midcard talent.

And sadly I don't share your optimism on Zayn either. As amazing of a babyface underdog character as Sami has developed in NXT, I just can't see him breaking the glass ceiling as a true tip-top of the card guy on the main roster. I hope I'm very wrong though.

Of the current NXT crop, I'd say Balor, Owens, and Corbin are the most probable future WHC's, likely in that order.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Are you still copying and pasting other's work in here DAOne5000?

Anyway, there is one hwt title. While theoretically everyone could have time with it, the number of people getting speculated as future champs is over reaching. There is still a roster full of guys to work past and then there will be a roster full of guys trying to surpass the guys mentioned.

I would guess one guy of the ones mentioned in the OP will get there, maybe two. Balor being the most likely. Or maybe someone who is from a place that doesn't have the WWE Network yet.

Regardless, it is pointless to speculate on any booking you have seen so far or in NXT.

 

[Navi]

Hideo Itami can barely speak English, it's not an easy language to learn. So by saying his mic skills are what's holding him back, or even comparing them to a Roman Reigns is ridiculous. At least Reigns can speak the language, that's not his problem. His issue is timing and delivery.

As for the others I think Balor and Owens have a fighting chance. As well has any number of the women. Titus O'Neal is only being mentioned because of the fact he just won that "Father of the Year" award, and Batista openly criticized the WWE for not doing more with him. Otherwise he'd still be an afterthought. The PTP have done literally nothing since coming back together.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

The reality is that the era of "everyone getting a shot" is gone.... Punk and Brock proved that one champ can hold the belt for long periods and those who have "moved up" to the spot like Ziggler and ADR proved it can't be done with everyone. So now those chances will be SO much harder to get.

Rollins got it based on a year of solid improvement and carrying his end of feuds, matches and actually GRABBING Vince's "brass ring". Ambrose so far didn't, Barrett didn't (although to me he should get a pass as neither injury was his fault and both times the one doing the damage directly benefitted) and neither did Ryback. So far Reigns hasn't done remotely near what Rollins did to justify his position other than "Vince wants it".

Now cos Rollins has had the belt, suddenly every NXT Champion is gonna be looked at as a potential. Owens... I really don't see it unless he catches fire with the fans like Austin did and even then, he's a canuck, so that's gonna put Vince off of it.

Neville is more interesting because eventually WWE is gonna have to go that "English World Champ" route, even if it's just to sell a UK PPV. His booking for a guy on the roster not even 2 months is pretty good compared to most newcomers... he's not winning everything but he's won enough matches and put in enough "big" performances to not be affected by losses right now. I can realistically see a time where he wins an MITB and cashes in on UK soil, on a RAW or PPV here and win it... or goes into the UK a shock champion upsetting someone... WCW did it with Sting in the 90's, hell if Sheamus was World champ for example, potato it on the Dublin/UK legs of the tour.

Anyone else on NXT it is WAY too soon to properly judge... Balor hit the nail on the head when he said NXT is it's own thing... he has arguably the most main roster potential, but also the most to lose... he can be THE big fish in NXT or another fish on the WWE roster...

As to guys who are "mid card for life" is that REALLY such a bad thing... case in point the Rhodes boys...

Goldust is pretty much done, his chances of the World title were slim but this injury has killed it off... Cody has LONG been touted as a future World Champ... but the reality is neither were a) suited to a World run and b) would be damaged immeasurably by it. There is a truism that's starting to come very much into focus for 2nd and 3rd Gen stars... the best ones are those whose dads were NOT "the guy"... who don't have a major legacy to live up to... Rock, Orton, Bray... their dads were not the top drawer talents holding the belt... so some "justice" is seen when they do well for those who liked their old man and felt they deserved better... look at how pissed off people were when Ted Jr. didn't get used right, they were rooting for him cos they wanted Ted DiBiase as WWE champ, even if it was Jr...

In the case of those who were big names like Dusty Rhodes, their kids always struggle with the legacy...if Goldust/Dustin had won the title, it wouldn't have been looked on favourably. From Dustin's perspective, he has had 20 years of a lucrative contract, in near constant employment by WWE, WCW or TNA as a top midcarder... he has likely earned MORE than Dusty did during his World Champ runs... after all why does Dusty work now? Why does Flair? Cody will have seen this... he could be world champ for a cup of coffee or be around 10-15 years as Stardust in the mid card...that's not failing, that's logical.

The reality is that if you have been on the main roster for more than 2 years, or have not held a singles belt in a year then you are now OUT of that main event picture all together. Unless something drastic happens, you ain't getting the World title.

 

[Aquaman6686]

I don't see Bray Wyatt or Dean Ambrose ever being World Champion. Wyatt isn't good enough in the ring and his gimmick is so overdone and played out. Ambrose has the potential to be a great in-ring worker but he sabotages himself with the endless goofy faces. And neither of those guys can cut a good promo.

I don't watch NXT and never will, so I'll judge those guys when they debut on the main roster. One thing I've heard is that Hideo Itami is having difficulty becoming fluent in English, if that's true than there's no way he'd ever be champion. They learned their lesson from putting the belt on non-English-speaking wrestler after The Great Khali fiasco.

 

[Hem]

If the WHC does not return and it stays unified with the WWE belt than a lot of guys won't ever be the champ.

Hideo Itami
Tyler Breeze
Bull Dempsey
Neville
Baron Corbin


The people who have a 50/50 shot of ever being WWEWHC are:
Dolph Ziggler
Bad News Barrett
Ryback
Sami Zayn


People who will be WWEWHC without any doubt are:
Finn Balor
Kevin Owens
Bray Wyatt
Cesaro

 

[Rulk25]

I have to say probably right on who wont but on who will.....
Tyson Kidd?? Yeah right Neville has been booked way better than him and does not have 5 years of burial on him
Caesaro and Zayn I think are in a not very likely scenario.....if we still had the Smackdown belt sure but unless their is a string of injuries I dont see either on top

And finally Bull Dempsey......He is like the dollar store version or Rusev....best he has is bodyguard to stars type role...He hasnt even won much in the way of significant wins in NXT...and has been fed to a guy you dont even have on your list Baron Corbin

I made this thread because I was thinking about how almost every star that debuted in NXT recently has been dubbed by the IWC a "future world champion."

I say that is not exactly true. When it comes to guys like Kevin Owens,Sami Zayn,and Finn Balor. I think it is a FACT that they will be world champion one day.

However, with guys like Hideo Iltami,Solomone Crowe and Neville I just don't see it. Not because of size or any of that stuff.

In Hideo Iltami's case, it is his mic skills that are just terrible.

Some may say well look at Roman Reigns. Well, Roman had his problems on the mic but wasn't nearly as bad. Only problem with Reigns was his corny cartoon catchphrases and delivery. But Roman has improved alot and can hold his own on the mic. So please refrain from that excuse.

Also, on him I do have to say his size as well.

In Neville's case, it is just poor booking. Some would say he has been booked perfectly. But he has not and that is far from the truth. There is a major difference in being booked strong and great booking.

Neville has been booked strong, but he hasn't been booked like a future world champion. Hell, I'll go on the limb and say since leaving NXT and coming to WWE he has been downright boring. Great matches, but has been boring otherwise.

He feels like he is just Dolph Ziggler's NXT rookie or something, rather than a superstar.

People complain about thrown together feuds such as Show/Reigns, and Harper/Ambrose. But both feuds were far better than Neville/Barrett. Hell, can we even call it a feud. I don't blame Neville...I blame WWE for poor booking.

In the case of Solomon Crowe, it is just how he is booked in NXT. If they don't care enough to make you a top tier talent in NXT. Then, they damn sure won't on the main roster.

MAYBE, Crowe will be WWE WHC, But he feels like another case of CM Punk. They hire him for publicity and then not care enough to do nothing with him until he makes something happen on his own.


Others I feel may never be WWE WHC

Damien Sandow
Tyler Breeze

Who I feel will be WWE WHC
(of the ones who isn't main eventers in WWE)
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Finn Balor
Titus O'Neil
Cesaro
Tyson Kidd
Rusev
Bull Dempsey
Ryback (Maybe)

 

[The Real Deal Nevielle]

I don't see Bray Wyatt or Dean Ambrose ever being World Champion. Wyatt isn't good enough in the ring and his gimmick is so overdone and played out. Ambrose has the potential to be a great in-ring worker but he sabotages himself with the endless goofy faces. And neither of those guys can cut a good promo.

I don't watch NXT and never will, so I'll judge those guys when they debut on the main roster. One thing I've heard is that Hideo Itami is having difficulty becoming fluent in English, if that's true than there's no way he'd ever be champion. They learned their lesson from putting the belt on non-English-speaking wrestler after The Great Khali fiasco.

You REALLY REALLY think Bray Wyatt is not good on the mic?? He's been regarded as one of the best mic talkers since the rock!! as far as a creepy promo goes theres no one like him since Undertaker...

but I do agree, all the goofy faces Dean Ambrose makes ruins his character..