Get us our Wolfe back please...or maybe add a shot of McGUINNESS!?

[The Viper Orton]

Desmond Wolfe for a while was one of the top rising stars in TNA. I have never been impressed as a very good first match as Wolfe's against angle. It seems that Kurt anlge is the only one who has solid feuds to push young, then after kurt they get lost again.

Back to our topic, Desmond Wolfe had a whole bunch of technical moves and intelligent ones too. I think becoming the first in the ranking system (ahead of jeff hardy) proves my point. Then there was the tilte against Rob Van Dam, I thought he had the chance to show his skills. But instead what he did was become a RVD jobber only being able to perform one of his moves (the arm twist and the other one didn't hit well). How long has it been since we saw a tower of london actually done and not being reversed. Hogan you are ruining one of the best rising stars, stop it for God's sake.

I hope I didn't repeat a topic and your thoughts?

 

[Who is Going to Win]

Yea I agree personally my favourite in TNA is that british bruiser, no offense rob van dam might be a great wrestler but he already had his time to shine in the wwe, Desmond Wolfe has and had more potential then RVD has ever had, its asswholes and selfish men like hogan who want to give his friends a push instead of desmond wolfe. Hes 32 years old around the time angle won his first world title I swear he better win everbody knows and judging by the poles everybody wants it
P.S. you most likely wouldn't agree with me but I think that he should have came to wwe.

 

[UFOcalling]

TOTALLY agree. Wolfe is such a great untapped resource for TNA. I posted this same opinion in a couple of other threads, I think TNA is making a big mistake by not pushing him.

TNA doesn't have as many main-event heels as faces, and Desmond is the natural choice to be built up. He doesn't belong in Flair's "army" as a nobody, he deserves to be used to his full-potential.

Again, I agree that hopefully TNA will take notice of the ranking system and see that Wolfe SHOULD be a top heel for the company. We all enjoy his work, and he deserves better than what he's currently getting (which is essentially nothing).

That match he had with RVD was a disgrace, I was hoping that his "win" in the ranking system would mean that he would have been slowly built up as a competent competitor for the World Title...maybe at a PPV a month or two down the line...but alas, that was not the case.

 

[TellMeWhy]

I don't think Wolfe is being misused at all. In fact, his push came very early. He semi-main evented against Angle in his first TNA PPV and was in the main event in last month's PPV. I just think TNA is using him as a secret weapon and doesn't want to unleash him yet. And I understand if TNA wants to keep him on a leash. You've got too many guys currently being pushed in TNA at once: Morgan, Pope, Anderson, Abyss, Jay Lethal, etc. I'm at least happy that he's in the main picture and that TNA fans were able to speak through the poles that he is the guy that everyone wants to see more of.

 

[Vintage]

Well I don't like that he's the jobber for Team Flair if he's in the enforcer role, Storm or Roode should be doing that. He was just in a feud with Pope that didn't really do much for him, I think they should have Desmond look a bit stronger in his matches or at least get a few cheap wins via Chelsea.

 

[sislater69]

I do agree with pretty much everything you said in the fact that he isn't being used properly. TNA gave us a half assed title match of around 5 or 6 minutes when I think most would agree what we should have had was a 15 minute near ppv quality match and drop the whole Hogan/Sting segment at the end.

One worthy note I will end this post on is: The Flair rave up/motivational talk in the locker room, during which Flair asked everyone on the team to up their game.. He stated if they don't do so then he will replace them. AJ won, Beer Money were made to look strong, Wolfe... well, maybe they have better plans for him after all..

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

i was happy when wolfe signed for tna ahead of wwe, who knows what he would be called there?

anyway, i think he has been jobbing to everyone lately, if he loses chelsea to abyss, thats just going tooo low, i see him winning the world title this year..i wonder if he will wear it backwards..

 

[Gerald Brisco]

I just think TNA is using him as a secret weapon and doesn't want to unleash him yet.

...What?

"Oh we have one of the top 10 wrestlers in the WORLD but hell keep him off television that'll give us the Edge over the WWE!"

He is in his prime and an excellent wrestler, TNA fans know this, the Wrestling community knows this, The people WANT him in the main event picture, however someone is holding him back, Hell you could at least make him be competitive against someone, why bury them? what does that do?

He's a Heel Jobber, he;s going to just get destroyed by Abyss, Abyss cant give him to talent to work off to make a brilliant match in this comming PPV, Its almost sad

 

[CobraVenom]

TNA gave us a half assed title match of around 5 or 6 minutes when I think most would agree what we should have had was a 15 minute near ppv quality match and drop the whole Hogan/Sting segment at the end.

I disagree. Not because I don't want to see RVD and Wolfe wrestle for 15 minutes, but because I know Hogan. Why would Hogan do the right thing and showcase the other good wrestlers? It isn't in the best interest for Hogan. What isn't in the best interest for Hogan won't happen. Hogan is the biggest prick I have ever seen. That includes real life. He just doesn't care about anybody but himself.

OQ: I agree. I want that cocky SOB back. I want that guy who took something so simple (Kurt Mangle) and make it sound really cool. Not many can do that. Great heels are hard to come by, and I want to see that cocky Brit get his ass kicked.

 

[hardy8778]

He has the right mind set but just not the right talent to be very pushable as a top heel what they are going to end up doing is trying to change him into a face with Chelsea being stalked by Abyss. Not only him but Matt Morgan should become a top face within the company again so he can feud with Samoa Joe who is turning heel.

 

[Sandpiper]

How are they not "pushing" him. He made his debut by basically picking the biggest dog in the yard (Angle) and actually beating him.

You guys have to realize that matches are subject to the discretion of the wrestler most of the time. They decide what kind of match they want. Not the writers. Writers write segments and storylines. the wrestlers are left to come up with the moves they want to pull off in a short wrestling bout. Hogan has nothing to do with booking the way matches are wrestled.

 

[K_VonFong]

How are they not "pushing" him. He made his debut by basically picking the biggest dog in the yard (Angle) and actually beating him.

First, the Angle feud was pre-Hogan. So that doesn't count. Yeah, I agree that when he first came into TNA he had a nice push, they made him look tough, they tried to put him over with the crowd. But since Hogan/Bischoff took over his character has become a coward and a main event jobber. They haven't put him in any big angles, he's just an afterthought right now. For Wolfe to become a main-eventer they have to establish him as one in the minds of the crowd and that takes an investment of time, which Hogan doesn't seem to be interested in doing at the moment.

You guys have to realize that matches are subject to the discretion of the wrestler most of the time. They decide what kind of match they want. Not the writers. Writers write segments and storylines. the wrestlers are left to come up with the moves they want to pull off in a short wrestling bout. Hogan has nothing to do with booking the way matches are wrestled.

HAHAHAHAHA, that's just stupid. Seriously, idiotic. Of course the bookers influence the match moron. They decide the outcome, the time limit, and many of the spots. Yes, wrestlers have some free reign to freestyle their work in the ring, but the quality of the match theyre able to deliver depends heavily on the time their given and what story/outcome is supposed to happen. If the bookers tell Wolfe that he has 5 minutes to put on a title-match and he has to job cleanly, well, that's not giving him much to work with and that's certainly not going to get him over with the fans (heel or face). Just stupid.

How long has it been since we saw a tower of london actually done and not being reversed

Wolfe could easily be the top heel in the company given some faith from the management, but this pretty much shows what they think of him. They won't even let him hit his finishing move. It's a waste. Wolfe is 32, not getting any younger. And he has a gimmick that has nice potential (really like Chealsea, the valet is a nice throw back to the old school days, and it still works to help get him over! She adds a more powerful aura to his character, but unfortunately it seems they might be be taking Chealsea away from him soon. I mean, Flair and Abyss have been involved with her more lately.) Wolfe is intelligent, good on the mic, and great in-ring worker. He always adds nice touches to his character, like when about to catch a beating from Hogan he looks around with a panicked look on his face to see if he there's an escape route before charging and getting punched to the ground. Bottom line - Wolfe is a big time talent.

TNA will take notice of the ranking system and see that Wolfe SHOULD be a top heel for the company.

The ranking system is a bunch of bs. TNA just wants a way to stand out, to get fans involved, and get attention. They aren't going to actually follow the results of the polls. Their token gesture to the rankings and the fans was to give Wolfe a title shot and have him job to RVD in 5 mins. Yeah, thats a nice push. It's just a BS way to appear like you are trying to appease the fans who voted. Typical Eric Bischoff BS, because he thinks that all wrestling fans are inbred backlot hicks with IQ's below 75. He should try to remember that there are plenty of "smarts" out there and they can see through his garbage really fast.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Since Hulk Hogan's debut with TNA, Desmond Wolfe's push has all but stopped dead in its tracks. When Wolfe first came to TNA, he was hot. He was placed in a feud with Kurt Angle and was already over big time. He and Kurt Angle had some great matches against each other and big things looked to be in his future.

After Hulk Hogan arrives, Wolfe's television time is cut dramatically and he ultimately becomes little more than a jobber. Three months after wrestling 15-20 minute clinics with Kurt Angle, Desmond Wolfe winds up jobbing to Abyss in a match that lasts 90 seconds. I do think that Wolfe is being misused because TNA is a company that needs to build stars and I can see Wolfe as a star. He's got the look, he's got the ability in the ring, he's got the mic skills and the charisma.

 

[Dead-Angel]

damn i wish we could go back time and i could be in someone head and make aj(c) vs wolfe vs van dam triple threat and put title on wolf just imagine if wolf was a champion now and with major heel and major momentum he would be major heel face of tna i hate how they are using him i want to see him doing insane major heel things every weak like cheating making opponents bleed and just dont give shit couze he is wolfe he does not need rules

 

[UFOcalling]

Originally Posted by Sandpiper
How are they not "pushing" him. He made his debut by basically picking the biggest dog in the yard (Angle) and actually beating him.

Gotta agree with K_VonFong here, TNA hasn't done shit with Wolfe since Hogan "changed the game, Brother". I too loved the feud he had with Kurt Angle, and had high-hopes for his TNA future. Sadly, since Hogan arrived he's just been a member of Team-Flair, without a good program. Give him a decent singles-feud, that's what he deserves and what we (as fans) want to see (as evidenced by the new online ranking system).

Originally Posted by K_VonFong
The ranking system is a bunch of bs.

Btw: I was the one you quoted in your post, and you cut off the word "hopefully" at the beginning of that phrase...it should read "hopefully TNA will take notice...". I don't want you (or anyone else here) to think that I think I know exactly what TNA should or will do.

On to the point - maybe it's bullshit and maybe it's not. The new voting system has been open for only a little over a week. We've got to give them enough time before we decide if it is truly bullshit or not.

Technically, TNA delivered and delivered quickly based on the votes...it's just too bad that I haven't read one post that had anything positive to say about the match between RVD & Wolfe. I was hoping that Wolfe would get a proper build-up before getting his title shot, but that's not the route TNA took.

I guess I do (kind of) agree with you that the online viewer poll is bullshit, if last Monday's show will be the measuring stick for how they're going to use it. If that's the case, they should change the poll to "Who do you want to see perform the job to the Champ in less than five minutes? Vote for your choice!".

Hopefully this ranking system will be used more intelligently in the future. It might be a VERY smart move on TNA's part, since they don't travel outside of Orlando. In my opinion, it shouldn't just be used to give someone a match, it should also be used to gauge how "over" a wrestler could be if given the opportunity (ie: they wouldn't have to solely base their audience reaction on the Impact Zone this way). That's what I was hoping would happen for Wolfe...and there's still a chance that it will.

 

[The Viper Orton]

Maybe rankign system goal was to get some more fans as if they choose who RVD will face. It seems like this "Watch RVD beat your voted for superstar in less than 5 min"

Lol do you think Eric opening a new series and getting a bit away from TNA some part of Hogan's ego and Eric hates that?

Comeon like him or hate him, even if he think fans are stupid, when he says something he delivers. He said hell make X-division the adrenaline of TNA. I thought he would but someone "Hogan" stopped him

 

[Phenomenal]

I think Wolfe is one of the best wrestlers out there, but he does not any shape or form look like a star. If he were to grow back his spikes then i would say he could attract T.V viewers. I have always thought his hair was unique.

 

[K_VonFong]

Hey Idioteque555,

sorry, didn't mean to misrepresent you or to even single you out in anyway. I totally agree with you and everything you said above. i just cut off the quote to make it fit my point more. But again, I agree with everything you just said. TNA could use the ranking system and make it into a very positive gimmick for them, but I doubt it. I agree that its only been a couple weeks and to be totally fair they need more time to show if they're going to use the system well, but in my personal opinion....its not gonna happen. It comes down to arrogance. Bischoff thinks he's a god and he knows whats best. Even if people told him something sucks, he'd just say that they're idiots and they don't really understand what they're talking about. And that comes down to narcissism and stupidity.

Also I love this....funny.....

If that's the case, then they should change the poll to "Who do you want to see perform the job to the Champ in less than five minutes? Vote for your choice!".

But I digress, this topic is supposed to be about OUR Desmond Wolfe who is being misused and wasted. Desmond Wolfe needs to be in the World Title picture and it needs to happen soon. And I really hope he doesn't lose Chelsea because she makes him seem so much more powerful, significant, bad-ass, and legit. Not surprising, when used right, that's traditionally what valet's did back in the day. Plus, she's super hot.

 

[UFOcalling]

K_VonFong:

No harm, no foul. Totally agree with everything you're saying, Wolfe should be used more...and used to his full potential.

On the ranking system topic, you may be right...they probably won't use it the way it "should" be used.

 

[admaildaniel]

I agree. One annoying thing about the way TNA has been using Wolfe is that when he has had a match the last couple of weeks, he's already been in the ring (no entrance), it gives him the "jobber" feel. Wolfe is too talented for that IMO.

 

[Burdmanindaclub]

I agree, I love RVD but Wolfe could be the #1 guy to carry a company, keep Chelsea with him and let him just grow.

 

[MissCG]

From what I`ve seen of Desmond Wolfe, he`s definitely talented. He did start off strong and I liked the feud he had with Angle, but since then it does seem like his stock has dropped. I agree it seems he`s gotten lost in the shuffle being associated with AJ, Flair and their group. Shame.

 

[K_VonFong]

I agree. One annoying thing about the way TNA has been using Wolfe is that when he has had a match the last couple of weeks, he's already been in the ring (no entrance), it gives him the "jobber" feel. Wolfe is too talented for that IMO.

That's a really good point. TNA has been doing that a lot lately to a few of their wrestlers. I agree with the "jobber" feel or at least it certainly communicates that this other wrestler isn't as important. It's just an example of bad time management and the overall disorganization that seems to define the company right now. Funny, TNA wants to emphasize its chaotic in-ring action right now, but often it's the management backstage that comes off as confused and muddled

 

[HellBoundPower]

Desmond Wolfe is definitely one of the most talented members of the TNA Roster, and I wonder why he's being wasted in Team Flair. I know Flair is good on the mic, and people that associate with him usually get a good rub from it, but it's doing nothing for Wolfe right now. Unless the storyline suddenly changes, and they focus more on Wolfe, it's going to be a complete waste of time. His 5 minutes loss to RVD was pretty shameful. It almost seems like TNA just threw it together at the last minute to please the voters on the poll. If it had some kind of build, they could have done something good with it. I just hope they utilize him better in the future. I hope his associating with Flair gives him some kind of rub and legitimacy. Otherwise, it's a waste.

 

[FromTheSouth]

TNA should definitely scrap all of their plans and give him the title. I mean, he was in ROH for heaven's sake. I mean, that's real wrestling. TNA is for washed up former stars.

Give me a fucking break. Wolfe has been used perfectly. He's part of Flair's loose stable. He was in the main event at Lockdown. He main evented against Kurt Angle. He is only losing to other main eventers. It's not like they have him jobbing to Kendrick.