Gail Kim..... Why are you not getting pushed?

[Maddog Lionheart]

Now I don't know how everyone else feels about this, I don't like the fact that Gail Kim has been pretty much buried. When she made her debut back to Smackdown, I really did hope that she was going to be the Triple Corwn Women's Champion, by being the first Diva to win the Knockout's title, the Women's title, and the Diva's title.And not to mention, but when she first debuted on Raw, she won the Women's title on the first night! But she was therw under the bus in less than two months after her debut. I find it complete bullshit sticking her with that whole Daniel Bryant-Bella Twins story. Honestly, in my opinion, she's the most talented, gifted, and athletic Diva on Raw and Smackdown currently. (Eve is making her way up there.) But I don't see why they have The Bellas with the title and not Gail Kim. My questions are.....

Does Gail Kim deserve a title shot in your opinion? If so when and why?
Do you think she has more talent than the Diva's currently? Where do you see her in six months?

 

[ReneO93]

Well, the problem came from the fact that Gail Kim wasn't getting the pops that WWE wanted from the crowd. This is what cancelled her initial push. After that, on Raw, she was going to get a chance with Mickie James. This went to hell as well, and you know why if you saw their match on Raw.

But it's been over a year since then, and there seems to be no signs of her getting pushed at all. I guess WWE's saying "screw it" to pushing Kim.

 

[GI Cake]

Does Gail Kim deserve a title shot in your opinion? If so when and why?

Yes and no, Gail Kim, aside from Kharma, is the most talented wrestler on the Diva's roaster. She has the look(Ohh a fucking amazing look) The ring work, and the charisma to boot. Sadly she is one of those people who got pushed to fast and too soon. She has nothing else much to do now other than win the title again.

Diva's don't get much air time, they get one match a night including PPV's and it's mostly 8 woman tag matches that is treated like a 3 minute piss break. If the IWC saw Gail every night dominating the Diva's every week we would have gotten bored. And the WWE creative would feel the same way. WWE has every single Diva under contract. They might as well put them to work and win the title at least once.

Do you think she has more talent than the Diva's currently? Where do you see her in six months?

As you can see I do think Gail is the most talented Diva performing in the WWE. She has a great finisher and actually cares about her ring work unlike half of the Divas on the roaster. In six months I see the WWE bringing in a new batch of Diva's to wow us with their looks like Katelyn, AJ Lee, and a few other barbie dolls. That doesn't leave much room for the Diva's like Gail, Maryse, Eve, or even the Bellas.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

I think they should push her, I am a big Gail Kim fan. I think she is definitely one of the most talented women in wrestling today.

I was hoping that she would end up feuding with Karma, as the 2 of them had some of the best womens matches I have seen in a long time when they were both in TNA, but obviously since Kharma got knocked up it isnt going to happen for a while at least.

I think its a disgrace that WWE are wasting such a talented, hot girl

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

Gail, like the Beths and the Natalyas and the Eves, have as much charisma as a piece of fly paper. Scratch that.. Bugs at least stick to fly paper. At best, she is a spot monkey who blows through moves and is too busy going "Hey, I swear you guys! I am ATHLETIC~!" to try to make people sympathize with her or at least get behind her when she is kicking ass.

And outside of the Kong feud, what other matches has Gail done that is remarkable?

 

[GI Cake]

And outside of the Kong feud, what other matches has Gail done that is remarkable?

Other than Mickie v Trish feud, Gail v Kong was the best thing to happen to woman's wrestling in a long time. You can throw the Lay-Cool break up if you are in need of naming another on. Can YOU name a feud that was worth watching in womans wrestling ?

I don't expect you too, woman's wrestling is all about skimpy outfits and hot bodies trying to wrestle, greatest example of that is Miss Tesmacher.

 

[The Future Rises]

No, she shouldn't get pushed. And here's why :

1 - She's not over enough with the fans.

2 - She's too old already she shouldn't get a push when younger Divas like AJ Lee and Kelly Kelly have a lot left in them.

3 - When she was put in a championship match on RAW a year or two ago she did the worst botch I've ever seen in the Divas division which resulted in the match ending via a punch to the face.

4 - She has nothing going on for her except her "talent" which IMO is really overrated by you guys and considering it's a sports entertainment company that wont get her far she needs more.

So I think she should just be used to put over the younger talent, it would be the best thing for everyone including her.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I don't expect you too, woman's wrestling is all about skimpy outfits and hot bodies trying to wrestle, greatest example of that is Miss Tesmacher.

I love the smell of sexism in the morning. It is a sign of no sex the night before.


But really, why Gail? Kelly is at least over. Eve has big tits. Kaitlyn has natural charisma. And AJ is a good rag doll. What does Gail have to offer on the face side? She's not going to get 10 minutes on Raw or SD to try to get the crowd into what she is doing. She's not going to get promo time (and with good reason tbh)

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

I love the smell of sexism in the morning. It is a sign of no sex the night before.


But really, why Gail? Kelly is at least over. Eve has big tits. Kaitlyn has natural charisma. And AJ is a good rag doll. What does Gail have to offer on the face side? She's not going to get 10 minutes on Raw or SD to try to get the crowd into what she is doing. She's not going to get promo time (and with good reason tbh)

Gail Kim has talent. She doesn't get enough air time to reall show off her mic skills. If I wanted to see big tits on a chick and see her threw around another chick, I'd watch a porno. Gail Kim goes to show that Women can be athletic and good looking in the business at the same time.

 

[#hamler]

Could you guys at least wait until Kharma returns to start asking these type questions? Gail Kim has never done anything remotely entertaining with her career except her Awesome Kong feud. That's it. And if you ask me, that isn't anywhere near enough to consider her something big. She had a good feud with quite possibly one of the best female wrestlers in the World in Kong, that doesn't mean we should put all of our eggs in one basket. Gail is talented, overrated but talented. But there are plenty of other divas that deserve way more. Gail isn't over, and it would be stupid to waste the time to get her over when the WWE could be building a younger, more promising diva like AJ or Kaitlyn.

 

[#hamler]

Gail Kim has talent. She doesn't get enough air time to reall show off her mic skills.

Mic skills? Since when has the WWE ever gave a shit about a Diva's ability to talk? I don't see Kelly Kelly talking to often. And when I do, it's god awful. But she's so damn over. Wait, that must mean mic skills do not matter when it comes to the divas.

Gail Kim goes to show that Women can be athletic and good looking in the business at the same time.

Isn't that what the entire WWE Divas division is all about? Kelly Kelly is athletic and good looking. Beth Pheonix is athletic and good looking. Layla is athletic and good looking. See where I'm going with this. Gail doesn't have shit that you couldn't find with the rest of the diva roster. Gail's time in the spot light is done with. Get use to it.

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

Could you guys at least wait until Kharma returns to start asking these type questions? Gail Kim has never done anything remotely entertaining with her career except her Awesome Kong feud. That's it. And if you ask me, that isn't anywhere near enough to consider her something big. She had a good feud with quite possibly one of the best female wrestlers in the World in Kong, that doesn't mean we should put all of our eggs in one basket. Gail is talented, overrated but talented. But there are plenty of other divas that deserve way more. Gail isn't over, and it would be stupid to waste the time to get her over when the WWE could be building a younger, more promising diva like AJ or Kaitlyn.

WWE does have new Diva's coming in and they do deserve the chance. But one thing that troubles me is that a lot of people say that Kharma is the best but the main reason why the say she great is because she's big. I do think she is a great but think of the average size of a Diva or Knockout? She's going to dominate no matter what. Maybe I'm just a little biased to Gail Kim because she's asian and I'm black.

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

Mic skills? Since when has the WWE ever gave a shit about a Diva's ability to talk? I don't see Kelly Kelly talking to often. And when I do, it's god awful. But she's so damn over. Wait, that must mean mic skills do not matter when it comes to the divas.



Isn't that what the entire WWE Divas division is all about? Kelly Kelly is athletic and good looking. Beth Pheonix is athletic and good looking. Layla is athletic and good looking. See where I'm going with this. Gail doesn't have shit that you couldn't find with the rest of the diva roster. Gail's time in the spot light is done with. Get use to it.

Hold up now, Kelly Kelly's cool but she's not all that athletic in my opinon. It's just a couple of hair pulls, a cross body and a facebuster for a finisher. Beth Phoenix is athletic but not all that good looking. Mccool was great and Eve is making her way up there. I think you are a being a little harsh. Just because you're a Diva doesn't mean that you got the whole package. There are superstars that don't have the whole package. And yes I do like seeing Diva's with mic skills. Matter of fact, women with mic skills. That's just me though.

 

[sTyLnK]

I think it's a given she knew she wouldn't be used properly again when she went back to the WWE. But she got offered so much money it was hard to say no.The bad news is if she wants to get more ring time and prove her wrestling skills the WWE is holding her back. (again).

I'm confident she will be able to show her skills to the WWE more when Kharma gets back. You know both will lock horns seeing as they put on some amazing matches in TNA. The WWE is well aware of this. All you can do is give it time.

 

[#hamler]

Hold up now, Kelly Kelly's cool but she's not all that athletic in my opinon. It's just a couple of hair pulls, a cross body and a facebuster for a finisher.

Sorry buddy but it takes athleticism to pull off a decent hurricanrana/head scissors. To say Kelly Kelly isn't athletic is somewhat foolish.

Beth Phoenix is athletic but not all that good looking.

Your opinion. But she's damn sure pretty enough to be a WWE Diva in a time where looks matter.

Mccool was great and Eve is making her way up there.

Both more over than Gail could ever wish to be.

I think you are a being a little harsh. Just because you're a Diva doesn't mean that you got the whole package.

Where did I say that? Tamina is god awful. Same with Alicia Fox. There are a handful of Divas who are terrible. But at the same time there are way better options to go with then Gail Kim who couldn't get over to save her life.

And yes I do like seeing Diva's with mic skills. Matter of fact, women with mic skills. That's just me though.

You totally dodged my point. Diva's do not need mic skills to suceed in the busniness. So your argument about Gail Kim having good mic ability is a pointless argument.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

man oh man i am going to have to repeat something i mentioned in the Kelly Kelly thread. For satan's sake, since when did talent ever meant anything in WWE especially for the Diva's division? If Gail Kim isn't pushed, its because she is all talent but no charisma and assets. Why do you think Kelly Kelly is/was pushed? She may not be that athlectic in the ring but she is so damn hot that the things i would do to her in my bed (can't say here because i would be arrested) you couldn't imagine and that whats counts in WWE.

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"Survey says, One more for the good guys!!!" - Scott Hall

 

[Maddog Lionheart]

Sorry buddy but it takes athleticism to pull off a decent hurricanrana/head scissors. To say Kelly Kelly isn't athletic is somewhat foolish.

Your opinion. But she's damn sure pretty enough to be a WWE Diva in a time where looks matter.

Both more over than Gail could ever wish to be.

Where did I say that? Tamina is god awful. Same with Alicia Fox. There are a handful of Divas who are terrible. But at the same time there are way better options to go with then Gail Kim who couldn't get over to save her life.

You totally dodged my point. Diva's do not need mic skills to suceed in the busniness. So your argument about Gail Kim having good mic ability is a pointless argument.

Now I'm not saying Kelly Kelly is just completely non athletic. I'm just saying that she's there mainly because she give guys hard-ons. Eve isn't there yet im ny opinion, but Michelle and Gail are pretty equal in my opinion. And I do know that a Diva doesn't need mic skills to get pushed. That's one thing that saddens me. And that's one reason most people just look at Diva matches as piss breaks.

I do like debating with you though. You're straight forward and make a lot of sense.

 

[K2Fan]

Some people need to realize WWE isn't a wrestling company they are a entertainment company so while Gail is a great performer she isn't over enough to deserve a push. They push based on looks, being over, and being marketable, Kelly dominates everyone in those 3 categories so those are the reasons why she gets pushed ahead of the more talented divas and for those 3 reasons you could make a case that she is more deserving of the title than Gail, Nattie and Beth. And everyone who wants to bring up mic skills act like divas talk on the mic all the time when they hardly ever do.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Its really easy to sum up why none of the women are getting pushed

No one cares about the divas division.

Their matches are filler, during live events when they take place hundreds of people evacuate their seats to go to the rest rooms and snack bars. The best thing going for the entire Diva's Division got knocked up and set everything back by 9 months to a year. The focus is always on the worst divas they have, currently the Bella Twins, and Smelly Kelly.

Gail Kim is good, but going back to the WWE may have been a mistake for her, at least in TNA the women get more than 5 minutes a live show, and their stories are more complex with more details the plot twists. Now shes just another girl on the show

 

[Henhouse]

I really did hope that she was going to be the Triple Corwn Women's Champion, by being the first Diva to win the Knockout's title, the Women's title, and the Diva's title

I dunno if you meant the first or not, but Mickie James has recently done that, right?


As for where I see her in six months, probably future endeavoured and working in TNA. She's going nowhere in WWE, that's for sure.

 

[Stephen11]

She's not getting a push because she's a diva. WWE doesn't want to have to commit more than 10 minutes of RAW to the Diva's division and they've been too busy with maximizing Kharma's debut. And honestly, with the very little time Diva's get (because they don't have the crowd's interest), there are much better Diva's that deserve the time (like Beth, Eve & Kelly Kelly). Well Kelly isn't any better than Gail but she's hotter and she's more over with the crowd than Kim.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

She's not getting a push because she's a diva. WWE doesn't want to have to commit more than 10 minutes of RAW to the Diva's division and they've been too busy with maximizing Kharma's debut. And honestly, with the very little time Diva's get (because they don't have the crowd's interest), there are much better Diva's that deserve the time (like Beth, Eve & Kelly Kelly). Well Kelly isn't any better than Gail but she's hotter and she's more over with the crowd than Kim.

Pretty much what I was going to say.

With such limited time given to the Diva's, it's difficult to push more than 1 at a time on a show. Kharma had been getting most of the attention. The Bellas and Kelly Kelly have been getting most of the air time but they were only there to build up Kharma.

There are other Diva's that deserve a good push along with Gail Kim (thinking of Beth and Melina). Gail Kim will likely get a push sometime in the future. I think she's either next in line or 2nd. One good thing about the diva's division, they cycle threw the diva's quickly so they get a push on tv but when they could go months without being seen on tv.

 

[Ink'd_Out::.]

This is the thing that I don't understand...Diva's like Kelly 'Fucking, Barbie Stripper' Kelly are getting pushed, shown on TV alot, gets storylines (Even minor ones at that), but women with true skill, such as Gail is not!!?

I remember a few months back when Melina made her heel turn against Natalya, there was a triple threat match to see who would be no.1 contender, Melina vs. Alicia Fox. vs. Eve Torres *I think those are all the Diva's if I got them mixed up, excuse me * and I was sitting there wondering, 'How hard was it to put Gail in this match!!?'

Gail Kim has the skills, the looks (and this is a 18 yr old chick sayin this, I think Gail Kim is freakin gorgeous!!), and while her charisma and acting skills could improve, she's a triple threat and she could have been champ by now!! But instead, WWE gives the Divas Championship to Brie Bella (are you effing kidding me!!?) but, Gail Kim's been back in the WWE since what 2008 or 2009, and we still haven't seen much of her except for that little 'Daniel Bryan is with Gail Kim and not the Bella's stint'

So yeah, some may disagree, some may agree, but Gail needs to be pushed more, whats the use of having her if she's not gonna be doing much things except being in ONE match every 3 or 4 months??

Make her heel or something, have her terroize Kelly or Eve or something

 

[Notorious718]

Gail Kim is talented and I've personally been a fan of her since her work in TNA. She's good in the ring but not over with the crowd which is why I think the plug was pulled on any potential push that was planned for her. It's too bad that Kharma had to leave because I was so excited to see the two of them compete as their feud in TNA consisted of some of the best womens wrestling I've seen. I'd love to see Gail Kim get pushed but I'm not sure if it's likely. But hey, stranger things have happened in the world of pro wrestling so who knows? It could still happen. I'm hoping she can get the belt at some point.