Ever notice...

[It's Damn Real!]

When the Cancer Crew aren't up front and in person in the pit (the area of the iMPACT! Zone that is directly viewable from the main A camera that films the majority of the ring-action) that the crowd not only seems to be more traditional, but that they are now actually starting to give heat to legit heels and cheering legit faces?

Take last nights iMPACT! for example:

London Brawling (Desmond Wolfe & Magnus)? Booed.

Abyss? Booed.

..and best yet, AJ Styles and Fourtune? Booed.

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We're all well aware of how smarky and annoying that Cancer Crew and most of the fans at the iMPACT! Zone can get or can be, so I've gotta ask, have they been silenced, or is it actually possible they are starting to act like real wrestling fans by giving heels heat and giving faces cheers?

 

[Remix]

Well, given that the Cancer Crew aren't likely to tone down their act and view trhemselves as so integral to impact that they aren't likely to get the fuck off camera on their own, they've probably been told (i.e. forced) to fuck off by TNA.

 

[red ass skull muhfukkah]

I haven't seen them recently so my guess is there were barred from Impact or were told to tone down their act by TNA, got pissed off and did the whole "I'm never coming back here again you guys are assholes!" deal.

Either way its good for Impact. Heels will be regarded as heels and faces will be regarded as faces and the audience will be less confused.

 

[jccool420]

I did notice that the crowd reactions were a little better last night, we actually got a pretty decent Hogan chant and they actually booed the heels...

Maybe they did ban them or forced them to shut up...

 

[Sting's Bat]

Thier whole deal in my view was to try to get some kind of reality tv show or other fame from acting like fools in front of the camera, So I can imagine they quit on thier own. Maybe management finnaly got sick of em, I mean after all they cant use the "we paid for these tickets we can act how we want" excuse.

 

[Ferbian]

Well that's slow step forward. Can only say that it's a nice thing to hear though. TNA needs people to at least try and adapt a little bit at times, but then again, it's something that could very well be said about WWE as well.

Both companies have their little annoying part of the crowd that will boo the living shit out of the top face, and chant for the top heel (Or just generally a great heel *cough* Jericho *cough*).

although, even if the "Cancer Crew" is something that ruins it by having a smaller crowd where they can definitely be noticed compared to the few 100 people chanting for Jericho for example in a crowd of thousands. Even with that, it doesn't necessarily make it an incredible failure. Sure you want your faces cheered and your heels booed, but there's still a little bit of credit to be given wherever a reaction is given.

 

[Joe's Gonna Kill You]

The crowd reactions for last nights show were much better then previous weeks. Abyss was getting a tons of boos. London Brawling got booed. Fourtune got boos to. Hopefully this will continue for weeks to come and the dumb chants are gone and the Heels actually get booed. I don't think they have become real wrestling fans I think that they have just been silenced.

 

[wrestlemaniac]

Last time I had flown in to the impact zone (hardcore justice+2 impacts) they were bitching about VIPs and people who payed getting in first and taking the good spots and good seats and blah blah so my guess is either they didn't show or just got placed in crappy seating

 

[Remy LaCroix]

Splendid! I guess I wasn't the only one who noticed. It made it feel more "traditional", ya know? Faces get cheers, heels get booed, the works (no smarkyness). And is it me or did the Pope get the same reaction last night that Kaz got a while back?

they were bitching about VIPs and people who payed getting in first and taking the good spots and good seats and blah blah

HAHAHAHA! Those pissants have no reason to bitch in the first place. What pricks. If they got different seats, wouldn't they have still chanted anyway?

 

[wrestlemaniac]

Splendid! I guess I wasn't the only one who noticed. It made it feel more "traditional", ya know? Faces get cheers, heels get booed, the works (no smarkyness). And is it me or did the Pope get the same reaction last night that Kaz got a while back?



HAHAHAHA! Those pissants have no reason to bitch in the first place. What pricks. If they got different seats, wouldn't they have still chanted anyway?

The thing I noticed when I was there, if you are by a complete stranger or if a group of more than 6 doesn't back you up in the chant....there is no way your chant will catch on

 

[Furyof5]

I think TNA just has to leave the Impact Zone. The crowd is just terrible there.

No matter what you do or what kind of turn you make they will cheer you. Fortune formed, its a heel faction. They cheer. They brutally beat up a face faction in a sneak attack? Cheered.

EVERYONE is over in the Impact Zone, and that irritates me and probably irritates the casual viewer as it makes this seem small time and at the same time confuses the shit out of them.

The Crucial Crew is a big issue yes, but the bigger and more important issue is, in fact, the Impact Zone itself.

 

[bigbadwolf2010]

I totally agree with Furyof5 it's just so disrespectful and un-fan like to cheer everyone, I wish I could come to the impact zone and be a PROPER fan and boo the living hell out of Aj Styles, he deserves REAL HEAT not dead silence, and not the usual boring squeaky teenage girl 'hardyyy!!" screeches.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

The reactions were indeed better than usual last night. The dueling chants were so tiresome. I even made a thread a while back about how everybody was over in TNA and cheered almost equally with the exceptions of Kazarian and Abyss of course. It could be that the Crucial Crew has finally been silenced or it could be that people actually decided to listen to Hogan.

Reports have said that before iMPACT! tapings, Hogan comes up and tells the audience that they're "a major part of the show and needs to act as such." Personally, I would want to do the exact opposite of what he told me to do but I'm just an asshole. Maybe people realized he was right and they were doing nothing to advance the product by constantly backing anybody with the "Let's go God/Let's Go Satan" dueling chants.

 

[alistahr]

while i do agree with the cancer crew with incredibly annoying, what youre telling is were supposed to chant for the person the company wants us to chant for???
wow what a fucking ******ed thing to say....
i chant and boo whoever i want

 

[ABMorales787]

I'm pretty sure they've been barred for behavior issues. It's not like they haven't been warned. I just wish they would ban the fat teen girl that just screeches all night long. Damn!

A larger crowd would really help mask those kind of annoying fans. Banning is good when it's a large group of troublesome people, but sometimes,there will just be times where it can't be helped. Just imagine if TNA did a show from "the Twilight Zone", Canada or New York.

 

[Ubiquitous]

I noticed this too. I never log in, just usually lurk the forums, however I was elated to notice the difference on Impact. It makes things so much smoother. It was definitely a change for the better.


[QUOTE="iMPACT! Player" Riaku;2392512]A larger crowd would really help mask those kind of annoying fans. Banning is good when it's a large group of troublesome people, but sometimes,there will just be times where it can't be helped. Just imagine if TNA did a show from "the Twilight Zone", Canada or New York.[/QUOTE]

Hey hey, I take offence here. Canada is a very respectful country for wrestling, HOWEVER, if you specify Toronto (or Montreal, if Shawn Michaels is involved in the show), we will do absolutely anything to get a screwed up chant going. Who starts a chant for their city hockey team during a live, televised wrestling show? Oh, that's right. Toronto does. My apologies to the rest of the world. =]

 

[wrestlemaniac]

The reactions were indeed better than usual last night. The dueling chants were so tiresome. I even made a thread a while back about how everybody was over in TNA and cheered almost equally with the exceptions of Kazarian and Abyss of course. It could be that the Crucial Crew has finally been silenced or it could be that people actually decided to listen to Hogan.

Reports have said that before iMPACT! tapings, Hogan comes up and tells the audience that they're "a major part of the show and needs to act as such." Personally, I would want to do the exact opposite of what he told me to do but I'm just an asshole. Maybe people realized he was right and they were doing nothing to advance the product by constantly backing anybody with the "Let's go God/Let's Go Satan" dueling chants.

idk how long ago these reports were but I was just there for hardcore justice, the whole f'n show, and the following impact and there was nothing of hogan coming up and telling us anything

 

[waylon p]

the cancer crew was acceptable, even useful, when tna was ecw sized.

the company has grown, and the show no longer needs them in the audience, making decisions for the entire country. and make no mistake, that is exactly what these fellows were attempting. there will always be these sorts of fans, and i think banning them was a bad choice, if that is what happened.

the problem is that these guys cannot be allowed to dominate the audience reaction. it makes an impact (pardon the pun) upon the television show. since tv is where the money is, the good of the show is of utmost importance.

it's not that they can't cheer for whomever they wish, of course they can. but in order for storylines to play well, a way must be found to give the audience a reason to boo the heels. the cancer crew made that difficult. they had a standard for who gets cheered that was not affected by the storylines.

i remember being a guy like that. i enjoyed knowing i was part of something that actually could make a difference in the promotion. there is nothing wrong with this, but it cannot be allowed to have too much power to affect the product.

of course, the best solution to this would be to get larger audiences, or go on the road.

 

[RD_21]

Exactly IDR I have been saying for a while that those guys have to go and in the past two week I've noticed the heel getting heel reaction and I was about to make a topic about it, glad I am not the only one who realise it and to me it makes the show so much more enjoyable.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

It's a bit like at a football ground, you get some guys who are in the wrong end for their team on their friends tickets... Often they get moved or removed, cos of the potential for trouble... More annoying is in corporate seating/season tickets, when people show up for 20 minutes, talk crap and then leave rather than watch the whole game...but cos they paid for that right... they can... thats life...

For the most part TNA shows are free after admission to the park... I got brought up to never knock something thats free... or it goes away... thats clearly what happened here...

 

[fenfool]

I keep hearing they need to go on the road to get better crowds, but does a half empty house that reacts as they are 'supposed to' really make for a better show? I don't pay attention to the crowd at all, other than if any noise is being made at all...and "what". That is the one thing that drives me crazy...I don't care if someone boos or cheers or whatever for anyone, but the one thing that the crowd could do to make wrestling shows more enjoyable for me is to stop with the 'what' chants already.

So to answer the original question, I haven't really noticed the crowd responses changing or anything...to me, if people are really paying that close attention to how the crowd reacts to everything, TNA is doing something severely wrong, and need figure out how to put the attention on the performers, and not the idiot with the in-joke sign in the third row.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think the drunk tourists that we usually have seen in the Impact zone are ten times worse than the Cancer Crew ever were. I did notice that the fans were cheering more for the faces and booing the heels. They didn't just cheer randomly for who ever. I didn't notice any random lame chants last night either. I don't know who to give credit to since it probably had nothing to do with the "Crucial Crew" being there. I'm sure we will hear the smarkiness again though. I really could care less about the crowd at this point.

 

[Rayne]

If they got rid of the Cripple Crew, what a great move for TNA.

You can only pipe in so many cheers or boos; that canned heat always sounds like shit, and to TNA's credit, they don't really use it that much. The idiot smarks in the front row got to thinking that the show and company were all about responding to what they liked. If you don't like what a company is offering you, don't go. Don't sit there and try and fuck up the broadcast because you personally disapprove. They got that priority seating for being so effective at selling the product; if they aren't going to sell the product, get them the hell out.

Good move for TNA. Now they just need booking that makes sense from week to week and we might have a credible second promotion on our hands.

 

[Vintage]

I really hate to even talk about the 'Cancer Crew', they don't deserve the attention. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them wasn't a regular poster here but whatever.Those bastards are still there, I think the last few impacts they have been off to the left of the TV screen but still in the front, i know for sure I saw them last week. I don't know why they just don't give them permanent front seats in the hard camera area where you can't see them. As long as admission is free, you're never going to get rid of them, and frankly if they are hardcore fans why would you want to. They just need to not be on camera so I can focus on whats in the ring and not their stupid ass chants and whatever other attention ****ing shit they pull.

On the other hand, every now and again they actually help get the crowd going and in a small arena like the Impact Zone that's priceless.

 

[DangerousDave]

I attend the matches every time in the Impact Zone. BTW, I sit in the seats and I don't chant, so don't bust my balls. The way admission works at the Impact Zone is that you get a ticket outside of the studio the day of the match. They put you in que by ticket number and once you are let into the Impact Zone you pick your seat or place at the rail. Of course the Cancer Crew are among the first ones to get their ticket and used to get their spot at the rail easily. Starting at the last two shows, Joe (the guy in charge of letting you in) goes through the crowd in que and picks people to go in the pit (on the rail) based on several criteria. He wants loud people, people with good signs, TNA t-shirts ect. This group goes in their own seperate que and goes into the Impact Zone first. I've noticed he didn't pick anyone from the Cancer Crew. He picks enough people to fill the rail by the ring forcing the Cancer Crew to the end of the rail were they don't get much face time on camera. It has made a noticable differance in the number of chants that break out. I recall hearing only a couple chants, which were weak and didn't last long. I'm sure TNA is the one that encouraged Joe to do this. I hope Joe keeps this up, because if he does, hopefully they will give up on trying to get face time and being total assholes. BTW Joe is the man.