Eddie's Rolling Over In His Grave

[Suneeboy]

Just read the RAW results, and Chavo jobs to Hornswaggle again in a cow suit to say the least. How awful is this? The guy is a decent worker, and has a proud family and heritage.

I don't have anything wrong with a guy being a jobber, but being made a fool of is another thing. The guy doesn't necessarily need a push but he shouldn't be losing to a fat midget who can't do anything in the ring.

Let me ask you all, is this funny? Is this entertaining? Is this desecrating the Guerrero name?

 

[X]

It's absolutely pathetic is what it is. But as long as the little kids cheer for the funny midget, Vince will keep pulling this shit. It's one thing to get Hornswoggle involved every week on Raw, atleast that I could accept, but to have him constantly face off against Chavo Guerrero in comedy match after comedy mach and make Chavo look like shit every single week is simply pathetic. Tonight was the last straw for me. From now on when Hornswoggle and Chavo come on my TV screen, I am immediately changing the channel, and I advise that all of you do the same. If enough people start tuning out during Hornswoggle's matches with Chavo, eventually Vince will notice the decline in ratings every week for that segment, and perhaps he'll finally put this tired and pathetic idea to bed.

Seriously, when I was watching Chavo in a cow suit, I thought to myself "What the fuck am I watching right now?" It was so bad it literally had me questioning why I'm watching WWE programming. If that's the message Vince wants to send, congratulations VKM, you've done it.

Poor Chavo. He's worked hard his entire career, kept his nose clean, and has always been a midcarder at most. Now he's below even a jobber though. He's simply being buried, no doubt about it.

 

[NMcQ]

its getting out of hand seriously....no1 cares about them fighting...and having chavo get beat every week is a joke....im am no fan of chavo but it is not entertaining to watch....personally i wudnt care if they wer both givin their "future endeavours"

 

[Kanye South]

Chavo's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. Help sell merchandise. You see, the little kids that buy the bowl hats and green jackets think it's funny that Chavo's getting his ass kicked by a midget. I personally think it's a fucking waste of my time and intelligence, but I understand why they do it. It helps get Horny over, which helps merchandise sells, which brings in money. Face it, Chavo's WAY past his prime, at this point, he's had a good career. He got to be a world champ, he ruled Smackdown for a while, and he's had some great matches with Mysterio. Chavo's doing exactly what he's supposed to do and that's help his company. I'm sure Chavo isn't jobbing for free.

If it bothers you so much, then go take a piss when it comes on. It's not that hard. Just hold and shake.

And aren't you the guy who said he's never watching the WWE again?

 

[samboisdead]

I myself have switched over to Football. Yes I would much rather watch preseason football than Chavo getting made a fool of plus Dusty Rhodes being made fun of by a guy who couldnt carry his bag for him HHH. I wish they would just bid Chavo farwell or I wish Chavo would just quit does he really need the money that bad?

 

[Legend]

oh common, get over it

what has chavo been doin before the mini (no pun intended) fued with hornswoggle. nothing. he was lost in the mix after the whole la familia thing with vickie and edge. IN fact the last time he actually had a big role was when he was fueding with Rey.

Atleast hes getting time on tv, even though hes been losing to a midget, i mean man

 

[Crush1]

Why??? that is my only question, why do they do this? Merchandise? come on man this is fucking wrestling show. How does humiliating a man earn you money? couldn't they find someone else to do this shit? And why on earth is it on the main show monday night raw? They should take this bullshit comedy and use it on either Smackdown or ECW. And besides arent there DARK MATCHES for this bullshit? do people need to watch this? I'm so sick and tired of this stupid comedy skit. Its like you have a beautiful mercedes but you got a shitty stain that wont come off. I feel so bad for Chavo. They guy is a good worker and they just buried him like shit. Where are the big names backstage that are against this? I read somewhere Triple H hates this kind of shit, but why doesnt the rest of them. I can imagine wrestlers being pissed the fuck off because such stupid skits get time on national television on a WRESTLING show and they dont. Fuck this shit dudes, I'm going to follow Xfears advice. When watching Raw and shit likes this showes up, TUNE THE FUCK OUT.

 

[Muttley]

I mean, how could you NOT think that this is entertaining?! This might be one of the greatest feuds in recent memory, I mean...Texas bull rope match, boxing, sharp dressed man match, one arm ti....

...yeah, you know what it's getting ridiculous that they are doing this week after week after week. And NOW I'm starting to get worried that they are throwing Evan Bourne into the mix now...what they should do (but they won't) is to have Chavo finally snap and either take on Hornswoggle in a You're Fired match, OR just have Chavo destroy Hornswoggle so we never have to see him again...I mean, the damage is already done with Chavo's character, but they just need to pull the plug on these stupid matches

 

[Tastycles]

There comes a time in everyone's life where they question if this is all there is. I'm not ashamed to admit that tonight, watching, by choice, a dwarf dressed as a cowboy tying up a man dressed as a cow I had such a moment. I appreciate the asset that Hornswoggle is to the company, but keep him out of the fuckign ring. It isn't entertaining, it isn't funny and it is just a freak show. Chavo has showed very good spirit, possibly because he knows that he will be feuding with Bourne instead soon.

Hornswoggle needs to be made Jillian Hall's manager or something like that. Keep him on TV, keep him out of the ring.

 

[raptorsfan4life]

not gonna lie, i was watching it and when chavo hit bourne i kinda expected him to win the segment kinda beat down bourne and then i kinda wanted him to get a chair and hit hornswaggle... then i remembered that this isn't 1998... fuck i really wanna punch hornswaggle in the face....

 

[Klown_Karnage]

*Prepares self to get a lot of heat from this post knowing that many are going to go spare...and then goes for it...*

Okay, folks, I gotta say this now: Aren't we all taking this a little bit too seriously? Who is to say that Chavo, once he gets back stage, isn't giggling madly himself when he finally sees the footage of yet another round of slapstick sillies he's made with Hornswoggle? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that more than likely the only people indignant over this display of ridiculous buffoonery is us. Besides, give Chavo some credit here. The guy is comic gold, the best straight-man that Hornswoggle could ask for. The guy gets mad and throws tantrums the best in the business (I'm including Santino here, not even he can beat Chavo when it comes to a tantrum) and always has. Just remember some of the stuff he used to do with Uncle Eddie when they were antagonistic towards each other. What's more, this is exactly what Hornswoggle is meant to be doing. You're right in that he's not at all believable in winning any match cleanly given that there are no other little people in the WWE. If Chavo is willing to play this game with him, then I say he's doing it brilliantly and Horny as well with his part.

I for one bust up in gales of laughter when I see these displays of slapstick, mostly because I remain a child at heart. I say let 'em have fun. It's not like these are main events.

 

[RendarSelin]

Unfortunately, it is more evident this show is geared towards a "family friendly" environment. WWE's target audience used to be 17-24 year old males. With a decline in ratings, WWE decided it was time to market to a new audience, not improve the product to bring viewers back.

I'm sure these Chavo/Hornswoggle skits get a chuckle and laugh out of the family in the back seats of the arena. Personally I chuckled a bit (unfortunately). But I agree these are getting out of hand. I'm dreading what "Bob Barker" is going to do to further this.

Unfortunately, as long as this "entertainment" sells seats, merchandise, and achieving ratings, it will continue. (Although I'm curious to see the quarter-hour ratings and what happens during the Chavo/Hornswoggle matches...I'd be surprised if they went up...)

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

It's absolutely pathetic is what it is. But as long as the little kids cheer for the funny midget, Vince will keep pulling this shit. It's one thing to get Hornswoggle involved every week on Raw, atleast that I could accept, but to have him constantly face off against Chavo Guerrero in comedy match after comedy mach and make Chavo look like shit every single week is simply pathetic. Tonight was the last straw for me. From now on when Hornswoggle and Chavo come on my TV screen, I am immediately changing the channel, and I advise that all of you do the same. If enough people start tuning out during Hornswoggle's matches with Chavo, eventually Vince will notice the decline in ratings every week for that segment, and perhaps he'll finally put this tired and pathetic idea to bed.

Seriously, when I was watching Chavo in a cow suit, I thought to myself "What the fuck am I watching right now?" It was so bad it literally had me questioning why I'm watching WWE programming. If that's the message Vince wants to send, congratulations VKM, you've done it.

Poor Chavo. He's worked hard his entire career, kept his nose clean, and has always been a midcarder at most. Now he's below even a jobber though. He's simply being buried, no doubt about it.

I am glad you agree with me, and I would love to publicize this motion somehow, to get more people on board.

It would be great if we could put together an effort across the Internet to try and get some coverage for this movement. I really want to see it gain some steam.

Hell, if the Internet can be responsible for getting Matt Hardy his job back, which he completely credits to the IWC in his blog, then I don't see why we can't create an Organized effort to get everyone to turn Raw off as soon as Chavo vs Hornswoggle comes on. You know damn well it is going to happen next week with Bob Barker, too ... as they will do another gimmick match.

If anyone has any suggestions on what we can do to create an Organized effort that can actually get us some coverage across the Wrestling Newsboards to get as many wrestling fans as possible to turn the channel anytime they do Hornswoggle vs Chavo, I am all ears. But it has to be a big enough and organized enough effort to warrant getting coverage on the Newsboards.

Vince has been doing Hornswoggle vs Chavo for two months straight, if not longer. It is absolutely ludicrous and unacceptable to put up with this for 8-10 weeks every single week in a row. Something has got to be done about it. Vince needs to hear in a big way that we are tired of this shit, and want something done about it, immediately.

Let's make a collective effort and let's do this. I don't care if it is an Online Petition, or we start a site to get people to register that they commit to turning Raw off anytime Hornswoggle vs Chavo appears on TV ... or what. But something has to be done about this and it is time for our big collective Giant Foot to come down.

 

[hArdyPUNKmArk]

I'm sick of it.

The fact that it happened 3 weeks in a row was enough, now how long has it been?! The whole thing is getting very stupid, I don't understand why they would continue to put this on the card. Why Vince why???

I get that it may get Horny over for merch sales but still! It can't make that much money. If they really need Horny winning then have him face some different jobbers every couple of weeks, there's no need to have Chavo getting his ass owned week in and week out by a 4ft midget!

Absolutley ridiculous programming by WWE, pure horse piss!

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I just looked back and this is the 8th time that Chavo has faced off against Hornswoggle in either a match or an angle. The week of August 10th was a one week reprieve as Mark Henry and Hornswoggle took on Legacy, however that was the only break the viewers have had in this feud.


1) July 9th (Superstars)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo

2) July 13th (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (1 Arm Tied behind back)

3) July 20th (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Sharp Dressed Man Tuxedo Match)

4) July 27th (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Blindfold Match)

5) August 3rd (Raw)- Mark Henry w/ Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Hornswoggle
splashed Chavo after the match

6) August 17th (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Falls Count Anywhere Match)

7) August 24th (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Boxing Match)

8) August 31st (Raw)- Hornswoggle vs Chavo (Bullrope Match)

 

[wewanttables]

It was funny the first couple of weeks. It has gotten old. And now they want to get Evan Bourne involved in this mess. Nooooooooooooooo! People with a future should not be involved in this mess. Evan looked like a parent scolding his children for rough-housing.

Cody Rhodes America's Dream, WWE's Nightmare

 

[SinCityBlitz]

Just turning it off does nothing unless you have a Nielsen box.

I DVR all wrestling shows and watch what I want. So I can skip over shit like this. But that said, Chavo is still collecting a paycheck. I would rather be jobbing to the little man while feeding my family over not collecting a check at all.

 

[SAMBOLIEWWE]

Nothing is going to change for quite some time.

I wonder if people were this upset when Doink and Dink were running wild in the WWE. I guess there was no IWC to complain about every little thing. Every time something like this comes on just think back to, max moon, the Gobbly Gooker, and all the other shit that happened when the company was directed towards kids before, and hope to god it doesn't get to those lows. I will take Horny beating Chavo like a Government Mule ( thanks JR ) every week aslong as they don't get as lame as they once were.

 

[Thugz417]

People need to get over it. Chavo is doing what Chavo needs to do! Hell I'd job to Horny too! Chavo gets a check from WWE, he all but assures himself he doesn't get injured, he entertains the fans. Chavo isn't unfamiliar with ridiculous gimmicks/roles...

Think back to WCW Eddie vs. Chavo feud. "Uncle Eddie is my favorite wrestler. Cheat 2 win". Chavo acted like a lunatic with "pepe" or whatever that wooden horse was. Then he shaved his own head and looked ridiculous in the process (shaving his pits etc etc)

Fact remains Chavo is used to this, he has a decent legacy/resume to his name. He is a credit to the business just like Eddie, Mando, Gory, Hector are/were.

Give Chavo some credit! He is doing an awesome job at putting over a midget. AND he isn't complaining about anything in the process. He gets steady television time WEEKLY. If he can deal with it, we should all be able to deal with it and out of respect for Chavo shouldn't turn the channel.

 

[Suneeboy]

Something tells me the IWC has way more influence than we give it credit for. I think DX in their promos shed a lot of light on how much they actually pay attention to the internet...I mean c'mon its what REAL fans talk about. Sidious made a good point about having this gain some steam. Chavo needs to be putting over legit up and coming talent at this point in his career, not being made a fool of by an unentertaining side show.

Its one thing to do comedy segments, but dressing in a fucking cow suit and having a midget tie you up and win a match? Seriously? You know, I'm going to admit, I watch RAW tonight after finding out Dusty was the host, and surprisingly I was pretty pleased. But this nonsense has got to stop. Have Chavo destroy the midget already so he can get into a real feud...they are just burying the guy up to his nostrils and pouring honey on his head for ants. Can he even come back from this as a legit opponent other than COMPLETE jobber?

As a wrestling fan or as an entertainer, I'm sure their comes a point where you say, "Ok enough is enough I'm not putting on the goddam cow costume"...where will it stop? He will be in women's lingerie soon no doubt about it.

 

[OmegaDriver]

Well all I have to say is
I wouldn't say it's "disgracing" the Guerrero name or anything. Unfortunately, members of the Guerrero family have dressed up in ridiculous costumes before, (The Gobbledy Gooker= Hector Guerrero). I think the E enjoys dressing up the Guerrero's lol. But It is a shame that Chavo has to job out to Horny week after week. And it's kind of embarrassing, especially while dressed up as a cow. I think the whole Hornswoggle fad has come and gone. I'm pretty sure nobody is interested in the fued anymore, if they ever were in the first place. The only hope left for Chavito is a potential fued with Evan Bourne which seems to be brewing. Seriously, ditch the midget, and let Chavo and Bourne tear it up in the ring, and I'm sure the crowd will respond much better to this and maybe it'll give both of them a nice little push. Wishful thinking.

 

[JimmyLeviathan]

Wouldn't it be ridiculously awesome if in the next garbage match these two had, Chavo broke kayfabe and just decked Hornswoggle? Just knocked the little fucker out and went to town on his prone carcass? Just to see some children cry.

Enough is enough for fuck sake.

I would be able to tolerate this shit if it only went for 2-3 weeks at the most, but two long months? And Hornswoggle wins every match??? You're all also forgetting the few weeks of Chavo vs. Santina, so in reality it's been at least 3 months of Chavo humiliation. I would rather see Michael Cole vs Eugene in a bra and panties match or the Great Khali vs Kurrgan in a 30 minute Iron Man match then watch another one of these abominations.

Never in my life have I wanted to simultaneously obliterate Ireland and devour a small child. Looking forward to Chavo vs Hornswoggle in next week's Price is Right dress-Chavo-in-a-bikini-and-have-him-pinned-cleanly-by-a-midget match.

 

[Hundred Dollar Man]

It's called comedic relief let it go people. I personally find these matches amusing in the way that movies like Airplane are. Silly humour sells.

And as some have said earlier about the WWE being a wrestling company the E is for entertainment. Hornswaggle is there to give the kids in the audience someone to get behind in a way they can't even do for Mr. 5 Moves of Doom John Cena. They eat that up and that's why VKM likes it.

Also these matches serve as a signature for the guest hosts... sharp dressed man (ZZ top), bullrope (Dusty) etc. as a way to accentuate the personalities of the host without affecting major storylines.

Also think about the good for Chavo, these matches are not nearly as hard as say a match with HBK or the Big Show on his body. When (and yes it's a when not an if) they go full bore with a feud with Bourne or someone else VKM will make sure that Chavo is justly rewarded.

 

[WinstonDeckard]

I've stopped watching wrestling for the most part because of crap like this. I tuned in the other week and coupled with DX and Chavo and Swoggle I just changed the channel. It isn't that hard really, just change the bloody channel.

 

[OmegaDriver]

Well all I have to say is
I wouldn't say it's "disgracing" the Guerrero name or anything. Unfortunately, members of the Guerrero family have dressed up in ridiculous costumes before, (The Gobbledy Gooker= Hector Guerrero). I think the E enjoys dressing up the Guerrero's lol. But It is a shame that Chavo has to job out to Horny week after week. And it's kind of embarrassing, especially while dressed up as a cow. I think the whole Hornswoggle fad has come and gone. I'm pretty sure nobody is interested in the fued anymore, if they ever were in the first place. The only hope left for Chavito is a potential fued with Evan Bourne which seems to be brewing. Seriously, ditch the midget, and let Chavo and Bourne tear it up in the ring, and I'm sure the crowd will respond much better to this and maybe it'll give both of them a nice little push. Wishful thinking.