Does the WWE Need A Major , Major Shake Up

[Lil Wes]

The WWE needs to do alot of things like DVN said I think building the tag divison back up is one. It lacks depth on every brand theres what Majors,CrymeTyme,Deuce and Domino,Rednecks,Londrick,Highlanders..Thats all i can think. That's my point and most of them are terrible. I've always liked tag team wrestling but these days the Tag divison is shit. Hell The rednecks haven't even been on RAW in 3 weeks and they are the champs. They need to start working on the divison quick or its going to the shitter.

WWE+Storylines=Predictable. They are boring. Even in the main event scene you have some of the most predictable on the show. Cena overcomes all odds every fucking month. Same with Candice. The last time I actually didn't know what was going to happen was the limo explosion. Absolutly brilliant storyline but damn Beniot goes nuts and fucks WWE up. The storylines are terrible. You go from hot shotting the IC title to an unworthy champion. To trying to remake Hogan. Plus sometimes you see the same exact matches you have just seen the week before. ( Umaga squashing Marrela). Same promos,repetetive storylines,lack of tag,CW and women's divison.

Also WWE relys to much on the older guys. They need to start focusing on some of the younger talent and start building them up. Instead the rely on HBK,HHH,Taker etc.. When the could be building up some of the younger stars in the mid-card. Those 3 I just named aren't going to be around forever. As far as I know both the US and IC title are your ticket to the main event after a reign or two. Marella is heading back to OVW soon. Umaga has already had his time when he was fed to Cena,MVP has got a very good future ahead of him. Same with Kennedy but HHH and the older folks are in the way of that happening.

I think they need to Build up the Tag,Womens,Mid card divisons better and stop with these boring repetative,predictable storylines also cut down on PPV'S theres too many. Once a month is plenty. But as long as TNA is drawing 1.2's every week. They will keep assclowning around because there is no competition. Thats why I was hoping that 2.5 was true. Maybe then creative would step their game up. Just my opinion..

 

[Slyfox696]

but i think that it really was a better product, i mean even today i go on youtube to see past attitude era matches, not just austins or rocks but everybodys matches, and i still think they are better than todays, not just the wrestling, but the storylines made the matches SO much better, like every1 has said and noticed the storylines today are way too weak, in recent times one of the few storylines i actually enjoyed as much as the attitude era was the whole chavo/rey thing, especially the i quit match, WWE still can entertain me just as much as the attitude era, they just have to go back on making better storylines and crazier matches, you know, be unpredictable

Part of the reason the storylines seemed so much better is because you had to wait a week to get to them. Additionally, there weren't 3 shows to write for, so they could use their best material every week on one show, instead of having to spread it out amongst three shows.

put some ladder matches on Raw and SD like in the attitude era, bring back the hardcore title i miss hardcore matches

Do you want more people to go on painkiller binges? Possibly snap and kill their family?

Hardcore matches are hard on the body, and the WWE tries to not overdo those type of matches to protect the wrestlers. Well, they try to protect the wrestlers because it serves their interests, but, it does still keep from injuries.

if the problem was that we got too old for wrestling then i wouldnt be so high on TNA also, i love their storyline/feuds, it reminds of the attitude era, sure sometimes its cheesey and all but its more interesting

Again, it's a 1 hour show, once a week.

I think the WWE needs a massive shakeup, they need to start listening to fans, possibly read some forums like this to find out what the fans actually want.

The IWC is traditionally a poor indicator for what the majority of wrestling fans want. Hell, the IWC is traditionally a place of numerous conflicting views on wrestlers, storylines, gimmicks etc., and the only thing the IWC CAN settle on is that they don't like the current product.[/QUOTE]

 

[ACTAFOOL]

hmm it could be the fact that they have 3 shows, maybe ur right, but the 3 shows have 3 different storys, it still takes a week to see whats gonna happen on the next raw =/

and im not saying put a ladder match on every week and stuff, like, if a ppv isnt gonna have a gimmick match, put a gimmick match on raw or SD now and then, like once every two months i dont know, they do that now sometimes but only with cage matches

and i dont remember how it was in the attitude era in terms of injuries, but there werent that many injuries were there? i mean today they do everything to keep the guys from getting injured but its not helping at all ...

and the hardcore matches sometimes werent even that brutal, just looked brutal but was still fun

 

[kotg]

I think the WWE is in need of a major shakeup and I have thought so for a time.

I think what they need, to do, and this is my own humble opinion, is to merge the 3 world titles, and merge the tag titles... have those two sets of belts travel from all 3 shows, like they did when the brand extension first started. Now that they film ECW and Smackdown together on Tuesdays, and Raw on Mondays and they coordinate locations, it won't be as hard for single champs to appear on all 3 shows, as it was a few years ago.

I then think that each of the 3 shows needs to have a mid card belt, as a spring board for the 1 Undisputed championship.

Raw = Intercontinental
SD = US Championship
ECW = Reactivate the Television Title

And then maybe a gimmick belt for each show.

Raw = Womens Title
SD = Cruiserweight
ECW = Hardcore

I think this would liven up the shows a bit, having whoever the champion is, face different challengers on each show, instead of Cena vs Michaels/Umaga/Lashley/Orton every week, and Batista vs Edge/Kali/Kane/Henry.

The next thing they need to do is build some good quality feuds. Cena has had like 6 different challengers for the belt in a 6 month period. I remember back in the day when they built feuds up for a year, with gimmick matches and close calls, and finally settled it at wrestlemania.

Finally, and this is just something I like... I think they need to bring back the big blue cages without the doors... I hate chainlink steel cages!

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

I kind of miss the big blue cages as well for the standard cage matches. When they made the first Hell in a Cell match, the new cage design was something cool, but I think the very fact that it was different and not overused made it that. If they'd have kept the big blue cages for the normal cage matches and the chainlink for the Hell in a Cell matches, it would make the HiaC ones seem more special.

Supposedly there's this rumor going around that they might nix the brand concept soon just to allow the writers some free range. No clue as to its validity though.

 

[kurtisraw07]

I agree with alot of what you guys are saying, especially NoFate007. I would like to say that after the last draft, WWE Smackdown has been HORRIBLE. I can barely make myself watch it. Batista just makes me sick, and teaming him with Ric Flair again with Michael Cole marking like a fat kid at a candy store doesnt help matters. When it comes to ECW.... I havent watched it in like a month. John Morrison is awesome in my opinion and could be the next Shawn Michaels. Other than that, I dont see what you guys like about the ECW brand. Its horrible too. Raw, the most watchable of the three brands at the present time, is pretty damn crappy right now. Cena has been Champion for almost a year, and hes been winning matches with the same story everytime. "Overcoming the Odds" has been old since Cena won the title to start with back in 2005. We desperately need a new WWE Champion, and we desperately need to see the eradication of the spinner belt. Even if Cena isnt Champion and the Champion carries around the spinner, it just sends the message that Cena is going to get the title back in like a month anyway. Randy Orton becoming WWE Champion is awesome in my opinion because hes not a kissass like Cena and is playing a maniacal heel perfectly. When it comes to Cena, people are tired of his lame pop culture references and his poopy jokes. The whole PG rated Cena era has got to end. When you think about it, its the ADULTS that buy the tickets to WWE shows and its the ADULTS that order the WWE PPVs , NOT the kids and teenage girls aka Cenas fanbase. Why not give us a Champion we can cheer for or atleast have an interest in whether it be a heel or a face. I would love to see Mr. Kennedy as the cocky asshole face who drives Mr. McMahon and Johnathon Coachman crazy. Its actually a little bit of a downer that you dont have a free agent market in wrestling such as the one in other pro sports because WWE would greatly benefit from resigning an established star. The only name out there worth mentioning is Jericho, but I doubt he will return due to Triple H's bullshit backstage. On the ECW thing; I'm tired of seeing Tommy Dreamer jobbing every week, and I'm tired of non weapons matches being featured as well. I know ECW back in the day was more than just hardcore bloodbaths, but those were part of what made it special. Why even call it ECW without those elements. I know I dont get it, but thats Vince McMahon for ya. Thats all for now.

 

[Shadowmancer]

Well, to be fair, Mysterio, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Edge, and Chris Benoit could have all had main-event matches longer than 30 minutes if necessary. The WWE can't help losing those guys.

When I say currently I mean at this very moment none of those names are actually in the ring right now except Rey, but that is House Shows right now.

But opefully this week there is a major shake up in the lead in to Summerslam and they complete setting the new Direction that they need to go in at the PPV then it is possible that they can make improvements. But what could be done right now is to get another guy that can book well like Dusty Rhodes. As I said in My first post in this thread ECW is the Brand that is showing the most consistence in putting on Decent shows. Education could be part of the typical Wrestling experience if they so wished it, Im not meaning Education in the traditional sense of reading and Writing. But adding a sense of History and respect into the fans. I will use the crowds in Japan as an example if they could put on matches that keeps people glued to the edge of their seats where the matches are appreciated beyond the scope of John Cena continuosly winning for over a year where mid card matches are given respectability back. If the WWE pushes their Mid Carders properly rather than just as fodder for the next big monster to Squash or for one of the Main Eventers to demolish to put them over. If they require that then they are not getting over by themselves thereby meaning they are failing in some way to connect with the fans. Even if their target audience is Children right now they don't have to be condescending about the way in which they portray the Wrestlers. They are human so they should be portrayed as such if they are faces with flaws in their personality. Vince McMahon has done that routine to death from Hulk Hogan to Rocky Maivia to John Cena, none of these Faces had any human flaws and that is the part where they need to start rethinking the direction. If you do not portray some reality in the characters you lose any connection you have/had. While you will still have the face/heel dynamic but a more realistic Face, this is where it needs to get back to the Attitude Era in a way having more depth of character in the Faces and the Heels. This would keep Smarks happy as well as entertain Children.

 

[jrcongine]

We have to come to the conclusion that the WWE isn't what it use to be and it come back it always does. TNA could help if they got there show better it is always good to have competition. Wait a while it be get better.

 

[startgame1]

Without question, something needs to happen to "shake up" the WWE. After being a fan for over twenty years I can honestly say things Suck. My two year old daugher could do a better job at writing a storyline.
I heard the rumors of WWE possibly ending the brand extension. I think that would be a smart move, though a little late. I never really understood the concept of splitting the roster. Granted, it did give more air time to stars that normally wouldn't have had the chance to be "pushed". Beyond that I always felt it was unnecessary.
Bringing back marque talent would be a sure way to "shake things up" abit. Resigning guys like Chris Jericho or Big Show,Hulk Hogan or The Rock even if they are part time appearence matches would definately improve on the ratings just for the simple fact is these are the guys people want to see.
All I know is if things continue the way the have been(like making Kahli the champ) WWE will have regular ratings problems.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

As far as the writing goes, I think we can all agree that they need to get people that don't just write "the next monster". In the past few months we've had Khali as the monster for Cena, Kane as a monster for Edge, Umaga as a monster for a lot of people, Snitsky as a monster for jobbers, Big Daddy V as a monster for jobbers, Mark Henry as a monster for people, etc, plus we're supposed to be getting some 7'3 guy soon. If all they can do writing-wise is fill in "monster name" and "opponent", they should just fire the writers.

 

[kurtisraw07]

Vince is a lazy bastard in my view. He has been getting his rocks off on the current WWE product and storylines until the recent decline in ratings. Then Vince panics and starts blaming the writers. Albeit, it is the writers faults, but Vince could have done something about this a long time ago. Vince is a ego maniac. I swear to God, when is the guy going to learn. I honestly believe that the Mr. McMahon character is a amped up version of Vince McMahon himself. For all we know, there may not even be that much of a difference between Vince on screen, and Vince off of it. The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin got over with the fans with personality and with the message that they told. Cena is over I suppose, but only because he has been fed win after win from supposed "big time talents" such as Umaga, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Edge and Mick Foley. If they had wanted to push Cena, they should have put him in a feud with a big time star such as Randy Orton and had them be at each others throats for like a year without any title being in the picture. It would have gave them time to tell a story, and for fans to get behind them, particular Cena. Now look at things, Cena is basically despised by the majority of the fans that make up the majority of the WWEs profits in terms of paying for stuff. People are tired of unbelievable crap such as a 6ft clumsy douche bag who wears shoe lifts and nearly trips during his matches, especially when he beats everyone there is to beat except Jesus himself. Much to my chagrin, Vince has returned to television and is continuing with this Limo Explosion crap. I am however interesting in the idea of Vince supposedly having a illegitimate child somewhere. This "child" could even be grown and be brought in as a character. Maybe things will change. I'm a stubborn SOB, so I'll wait it out.

 

[ACTAFOOL]

well from the looks of its vince did shake somethings up, nothing major though, i give this raw a C at most... except it was interesting to see regal as the new GM, but i already expected something like that, and at the beginning of the battle royal u could tell regal would win when he ''left'', so the suprise wasnt big at all and it just gave us a boring talk show, and a boring main event for next week...

what i did like though was to see vince again, its a quick fix but still i think hes entertaining, and loved it when he backlashed at the media lol

i also liked the part of vince having a illegitimate daughter/son, sounds interesting and could be a fun storyline after a LONG time

and i really liked to see ppl shouting ''cena sucks'' loud and clear =D... gives me more hope that at SS they decide to end cenas reign, hell randy is getting more pops than cena lol

 

[NYSandman]

First thing we should do is kidnap Vince and make NOFATE007 the head writer. BRILLIANT POST ON MERGING SD AND ECW! I like the idea of combining SD and ECW. I agree that 3 shows is too much, but one show is too little. Plus, it's nice, or WAS nice, on Monday night, after starting another hellish week of work, to come home and chill with RAW. Then, on Friday night, when your weekly hell is finally over, you can start the weekend with some more wrestling. I like that formula. ECW doesn't fit.

Another problem which no one seems to be addressing is the fact that Vince has somehow lost the ability to judge the fans reactions, and to judge what they want. Yes, I know it's the writers, but we all know Vince approves everything. Now, did the once greatest wrestling mind actually think that Dating Game fiasco, abortion, disgrace and disgust was going to get over with the fans? Is seeing Jim Duggan every week for 15 minutes the highlight of my week? Don't get me wrong. I loved Jim back in the day, and still do, but that's just it. BACK IN THE DAY! Having Kennedy come out and act like a ****** for 5 minutes. Did Vince think the fans would love that? Vince being investigated by more branches of the Federal Government than Bin Laden? WHO GIVES A SHIT!

I wonder if Vince actually has anyone going to reputible, news sites, which I consider this one, and actually checking on what we, the people who buy tickets, the people who probably paid for Stephanie's wedding and her child's delivery, want to see? I do not hate John Cena, but seeing him with the belt at this point makes me sick. Physically sick to my stomach. Little girls with raging hormones may like Cena, but no one, including Jesus, wants to see this man hold the belt a day longer. NOT A DAY!

I'm tired of seeing the spineless, kiss-ass Coach on RAW every week. Only time Coach was cool was when he got beat up every week. Again, I LIKE Coach, just not the way he's being used. I'd love to see him snap, jive talk Vince, say what he really thinks, and then start a faction or something.

I haven't given any ideas to make WWE better because, THE IDEAS ARE HERE ALREADY!

Note to Vince. If you have anyone trolling these boards, which wouldn't surprise me, you have lost your touch. You no longer care about the people who made you, US! Not your daddy, not Hogan, we put money in your pocket and you are letting us down! Everyone here is a wrestling junkie, a wrestling lunatic! See what we have to say and make changes, before I go back to *********ing on Monday night!

 

[Randolph H]

What should happen is have Raw go off the air for two weeks. Play it off as the IRS angle. Must shut down to review assets or something...

Use the time to get rid of dead weight. Bring in new creative team.

Raw comes back... Announce the stripping of all titles and the foreclosure of ECW. Announce that only the people who have never held titles before will be the only ones allowed to partake in the process of determining the new champions.

 

[jpfizzle]

I dont think a major shake up is in order but there is way too many titles and it saddens me that they are begining to loose meaning, even jr has said there are too many belts in the wwe... i liked how they had it on the original brand extension with the title defended on all shows, thats double the feuds and double the competition.. ecw isent really ecw i appreciate vince bringing it back because of the big fanbase and dvd sales it had, but if they call it ecw it should be more ecw, obviously not exactly like the old days because i'm sure there was a reason it folded, but ecw is weak, weaker than sunday night heat used to be which was a great show in its day when they still used it for storylines particuly before huge ppvs.

i think the dieing out of a competetive tag team division is one major issue, can you imagine a tlc between deuce and domino, cryme tyme and the highlanders for instance.. i also as a fan of the 24/7 rule they used to have for the hardcore title, although i dont see the need for a hardcore title the 24/7 rule on say the ecw championship would make for some more brilliant backstage segments, and if they continue too insist on backstage over wrestling (4 matches on the latest raw) then i think this could be a good way to combine both, also it could make for a good way to advertise ec on raw and smackdown with everynow and then a superstar from raw or sd winning the title and jumping to ecw.

factions also are good for ratings, although the corporation versus the ministry could never be repeated (see the dx reunion, not bad but seen before) the few factions we have seen since have been great to watch, rtc for example had some good stories and evoloution where awesome.

after all that i just want to say, no, the wwe does not need a major shake up but a fe tweaks could turn it into the great power in sports entertainment it once was.

 

[Randolph H]

After last night I can't believe they did better in the ratings. Frankly it made we want to barf. People are sick of the one Trick Pony, Cena. This isn't the 80s and early 90s. There can be no more Hulk Hogans because it takes more to entertain us, simple stuff doesn't work.

The thing is that Vince needs to go back to the formula that dug him out of his hole, when the fans got bored. We don't need to bring back the players or the stables such as the Rock, DX, Steve Austin.

We need new characters that are complex. Fresh blood. If they don't, we could see TNA bitch slap Vince like WCW did. Not that it is close to that happening yet. But it could happen fast when it does. When TNA moves to 2 hours, it could pick up steam and pull a Nitro at any time.

They really need to drop Cena for several months before they could use him again, to push younger talent.

Triple H is returning... they are going to do the samething that they did for how long now... Mega return... Give him the belt ASAP... Boring... its been done before...

They need to do something like perhaps have the world title change hands unexpectedly to some one you would never expect...

 

[Lashley07]

Lets be realistic, the WWE right now is pretty average. The storylines arent that great, and except for the death angle...I havent just finished watching RAW and waiting in anticipation for next weeks show in a long time. During the attitude era that was happening every week, because shocking things were happening, things you didnt think would happen. The WWE need to get rid of ECW, or...make it ECW. The 'E' is in there for a reason...EXTREME! Theres nothing extreme about it right now. Secondly, RAW needs to develop its storylines more. They hyped Lashley vs Cena as if it was this great fued that was amazing, and it started about 3 weeks before the PPV. A fued like that should have been built up for arund 3 - 4 months, with cliff hangers along te way.

Mark Henry needs to go to RAW, with Snitsky going to SmackDown!. Mark Henry has had a fued with most main event wrestlers on SmackDown! and he should move to RAW to do something fresh. Shelton Benjamin has been underrated since he joined. He's more talented than Cena, and with a good push, good storylines and good opponents, he could be main event level within about 2 years. I woudnt have him win the WWE title for a few year though, to give his title win more credit.

Cody Rhodes could be the same, but he would take longer to push to main event status.

The WWE creative team suck. They cant keep me hooked to a storyline right now, and the only reason I watch SmackDown! is to watch MVP, and wait for Rey Mysterio to return. Oh, and Kane should be World Champion right now.

The shake up the WWE needs, is the creative team. They need to produce good storylines, and keep me hooked. (I know im repeating myself).

The WWE should bring back Austin (GM), Jericho (stick in fued with Shelton Benjamin), Phycso Sid (SP?). Now his return would draw in the ratings, and I have a quality idea for a storyline to involve him, which would include HHH, Vince, Nash (Could happen), X-Pac, Hogan, Scott Hall, Orton, Bischoff(SP?) Cena and Austin and prehaps a few more. I'll write it on the bottom, and if its spamming, then I apologise and could you tell me where to post it?

With the returning legends, deserved pushes, good storylines, good matches, and the most important bit...CONTREVERSY (SP?), then the WWE will get more and more people hooked. Enough of family entertainment, we want ATTITUDE!




-------------------Storyline-------------------

It would start with Cena and Lashley winning the tag team titles. (Orton WWE Champ after SummerSlam.) Eric Bischoff would do a face turn and be their manager. HHH and Orton would be fueding for the WWE title at this moment in time.

Scott Hall and X-Pac return, attacking Cena and Lashley. After a good fued, Bischoff turns on Cena and Lashley with Scot Hall and X-Pac winning the title. They continue to fued for a while, and Vince becomes Cena and Lashleys manager.

Bischoff promises something huge will happen by the end of RAW...Hogan returns...laying out Orton and HHH, and stealing the WWE Championship. Bischoff and Hogan shake hands, and they leave. You see Vince running after the limo they leave in. You then get a shot of the limo leaving, and then it looks at Vince, he's on the floor, with blood pouring from his head. End of that RAW.

Next RAW you get Bischoff in the middle of the ring, standing with Hogan, X-Pac and Scott Hall. There all holding the titles, and say all they need now is the IC title. (Jericho is the champion right now). They challenge him to a ladder match for the title, and say they will choose the opponent later tonight. Lashley and Cena hit the ring, with pipes and attack them. There all brawling in the ring, and Vince's music hits. Nothing happens, and then securiy stops the brawl. Time for the Ladder match, and Bischoff says they choose Kevin Nash. Him and Jericho have a good match, it looks like Jericho will win but then Hogan, Hall and X-Pac hit the ring. At that moment Cena, Lashley, Orton and HHH hit the ring. Mass brawl, which leaves Jericho and Nash with Bischoff in the ring. Jericho retains, just.

Vince's music hits, nothing happens. Bischoff hits Jericho in the head with a weapon, and leaves the IC title on Jericho, and puts the WWE title on him, saying 'We could make you the WWE Champion. Think about it.' End of that RAW.

(I know this is long but keep reading, it may need tinkering but it should work well.)

Next RAW, you see Hogan, with Vince tied up(On Screen).Hogan punches him and hits him with weapons. Hogan tells Vince to strip Orton of the title. Vince says no and you end with Hogan saying he will unleash hell upon RAW, and not just tonight.

You see Orton searching for Jericho, who still has his WWE title. He asks for it back, but Jericho hesitates. Finally, he he gives him the title back, but leaves in frustration.

Tonight, Orton will face X-Pac. HHH will face Scott Hall.

Orton beats X-Pac, but HHH looses when Jericho interfers. He says this is a message to Orton, and he wants the WWE Championship.

Hogan shows Vince backstage, in a room, all blacked out. Hogan says next week, his group will have all the titles on RAW. We end with Jericho hugging Eric Bischoff and Scott Hall. (Cena and Lashley absent from RAW.)

This week...we open with Hogan with Vince, saying tonight they will have control of all the titles. Vince says tonight, they will be in shock.

Cena and Lashley face off with Hogan and Nash. Lashley wins with Spear.

Orton (w/HHH) vs Jericho (w/Bischoff) for the WWE Championship, No DQ match. Looks like Jericho will win, Austins music hits, comes out, and stuns Jericho. HHH brawls with Bischoff. Then, Austin stuns Orton. Puts Jericho over Orton, and Jericho wins the title. Austin shakes Jericho's hand, and then Vince comes out. All of them hug, and we end the show with Orton laying motionless and Hogan, Nash, X-Pac, Vince, Bischoff, Austin, Jericho and Hall all standing tall. (Before the rest of Bischoffs lot would come out, Cena and that would come out, and all get laid out.)

This week, Orton stands in the middle of the ring, and uses his re-match clause in his contract. He says he wants to beat Jericho to death, at (PPV on at that time). Vince comes out and says he can, if he can beat Cena tonight. The winner of that match will face Jericho.

Right, im gonna finish this tomorrow. Its 1 in the morning and im knackered. It will improve and get better.

 

[TheShiznetNo2]

Reading through this i like i.....BUT....I can't see Austin shaking anyone's hand or hugging anyone. And as much as I like this it really just sounds like the nWo all over again. I believe that's how fans would look at it.

 

[Derf]

Wow... That was... detailed... I think if Orton won the title, Cena left RAW for even a month, and someone whos NOT HHH challenges Orton for the title. Have the WWE toss a rumor out there that Ortons in hot water again, and then have the fans actually guessing whos going to win the belt.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Most likely from what I've been seeing and hearing, it'll end up being that Orton wins the title at Summerslam, feuds with Cena for just a little bit, maybe for one extra ppv in a rematch clause kind of thing, then HHH "saves the day" by beating the legend killer, and then by that time, this illegitimate child stuff will have been fully panned out and Kennedy will be feuding with HHH at Survivor Series.

 

[Hdog684]

LMAO at the person who suggest shutting down Raw for a couple weeks and stripping all the titles. You mean like when Bischoff and Russo came back to WCW and "rebooted" the company? How'd that work out for them? (hint in case you didn't watch WCW back then: it worked out horribly.)

People keep saying the talent is there and it's just the writing, and you're half right. The talent is there, in theory, but they're still to blame for being so lazy and not showing that talent. I wish I had a link to the post, but there was a story on WZ not that long ago in which Triple H explained the problem PERFECTLY. You have all these guys coming in and waiting for somebody to make them stars. That's not how it works. The writers just give you the mic and the air time, or the opponent and the match time. It's up to the wrestlers to get the fans to care about them. You think the writers made Steve Austin or The Rock a star? Fuck no they didn't. The writers had Austin stuck in a dead end "Ringmaster" gimmick. The writers almost ruined The Rock's career before it got started. The wrestlers were taking what the writers gave them and running with it. Steve Austin started made his "3:16" speech on his own. The Rock forced a heel turn and showed his unbelievable charisma. The writers didn't give him that charsma. Great storylines come from the talent actually showing that they have talent, and right now almost nobody in the WWE is performing up to the level they could/should be. And the problem is there's really no motivation for them, or the writers, because there's no competition. Sure, the ratings are low, but they're still #1 in the business by far. And they're still higher than they were back when WCW was raping them week in week out for 80+ weeks.

And that brings me to the people that think they should bring back The Rock, Austin, etc. from the attitude era. That's the exact opposite of what they should do. It's funny, because you have a picture perfect comparison of the two ways to go - recycling old stars and making new ones. Just look at the Monday Night Wars. You had WCW, bringing back guys like Hogan and Save, and you had WWE, pushing those starts to the side and giving guys like Austin, The Rock, and Mankind air time. Which one worked out better? Sure, WCW was on top for a short time, but once the fans realized the new guys in WWE were good, they all switched over and WCW died because they couldn't make new stars. The short term pop you get from guys like Austin isn't worth the long term damage. They need to forget about them and focus on guys like Kennedy, MVP, Matt Hardy...

 

[Ex-Degenerate]

The WWE needs to do alot of things like DVN said I think building the tag divison back up is one. It lacks depth on every brand theres what Majors,CrymeTyme,Deuce and Domino,Rednecks,Londrick,Highlanders..Thats all i can think. That's my point and most of them are terrible. I've always liked tag team wrestling but these days the Tag divison is shit. Hell The rednecks haven't even been on RAW in 3 weeks and they are the champs. They need to start working on the divison quick or its going to the shitter..

Going in the shitter? It's been already flushed. Since WWE broke up the great tag teams of the past few years like APA, Hardy's, and Dudleys, they haven't been able to get any great teams togehter, due to lack of talent, mike skills or bad stroylines. when they tried to bring i nnew teams, like the Highlanders and Cryme Tyme, they end up turning into gimmicks rather than wrestlers. When the best team of the past year has been Kindrak and London, u know the divison is in bad shape. MnM had a good run, but they could have done more with them, they could have been like Edge and Chrstian were. I think the Worlds Greatest Tag Team is good, but who do u fueld them against?

And WWE doesn't really care, since the singles matches are the ones that fill the seats and get the ratings.

Part of the probelm is storylines are tougher to keep going now, since u have 3 different shows. People will lose interest. With one show (RAW) it was much easier.
Brining back guys like Rock, Austin and Hogan are only short term things. U need to develop new main -eventers into superstars, Like Cena (already is) Kennedy, Orton, MVP, Lashley and Punk. Edge and kennedy are the two best options right now. Both have good charisma, mike skills and are good enough to carry matches.

Another probelm is Vince's obsession with big-dumb guys that cant wrestle and have no mike skills, like Umaga, Khali, mark Henry, Batista, Snitzky. They are difficult to use in longer fueds or stroylines, cause they can't cut good promos, or wrestle for more than 5 to 10 minutes. The stuff with Umaga and Estrada was good, cause he could handle promos. Divari with Khali was decent at times.

And factions should only be used to give young guys pushes. They could have used someone Like Carlito or Matt HArdy in the new DX to help bring them over with the fans. if any factions reform with HHH, Flair, HBK or any NWO stuff, they gotta have a young up-and-comer to mix with the stars, otherwise their pointless.

 

[Shadowmancer]

Id dispute the Umaga thing there I haven't seen much of three Minute Warning, but his gimmick is to Babble incoherently in Samoan. He is a cross between Delirious and the Wild Samoans. Will people stop bringing up DX there was only ever three DX's and the third one shouldn't really count. Reviving dead Stables isn't going to work anymore. the nWo has had 7-8 retreads, the Four Horsemen has had so many tht they should leave them be as history. DX has been done. Evolution is quite possibly the last great Faction/stable we will see for a long time.

 

[italyanstallyan]

It's quite simple really. Make each brand its own actual franchise that actually competes against each other. Have each brand runned by a real GM who actually wants to beat the other brands in the ratings by creating a better product. Since Raw is Vinnie's baby, he could make their GM his other baby, Stephanie. Since SmackDown is kind of looking like WCW with almost all of WCW's old belts, he could let Bischoff run the show and actually make it good again. And who better to run ECW than Paul Heyman.

Everyone wins in the situation. If one show is doing terrible in the ratings, Vince could pull the plug on it and save himself some money and I'm sure all the good talent would get picked up by the other GMs. And fans would also win because we would have a greater chance of seeing something interesting and not just the same old shit every week.

What do you think?

 

[mabuza]

It's quite simple really. Make each brand its own actual franchise that actually competes against each other. Have each brand runned by a real GM who actually wants to beat the other brands in the ratings by creating a better product. Since Raw is Vinnie's baby, he could make their GM his other baby, Stephanie. Since SmackDown is kind of looking like WCW with almost all of WCW's old belts, he could let Bischoff run the show and actually make it good again. And who better to run ECW than Paul Heyman.

Everyone wins in the situation. If one show is doing terrible in the ratings, Vince could pull the plug on it and save himself some money and I'm sure all the good talent would get picked up by the other GMs. And fans would also win because we would have a greater chance of seeing something interesting and not just the same old shit every week.

What do you think?

I've been thinking the same thing for years now.Remember how good SD! was back in 2002-2004 when they had Steph& Heyman? They had a good weekly mainevent system& SD! was actually better than RAW.I think Vince has neglected the othe Brands mainly because RAW's the most watched brad internationally.If RAW was to go downthe toilet,that might not phase audience that watch all 3 brands,but it could be a disaster in territories that only carry RAW.
The only way the WWE's gonna change is if Vince steps down,the creative team get fired or if TNA,ROH,Stampede& UFC create some sort of joint fed that would bitchslap the WWE & force them to stepup their game