Does the Canadian Destroyer look legit?

[Deexter Jorgan]

The Canadian Destroyer is one of the most devastating moves in wrestling history, it has won petey a number of titles and has made petey a house hold name, but does it look like a legit finisher

discuss and give me your opinion

IMO i feel that the move does not look legit, you need your oponent to help you pull the move off and doesnt even look like a variation of the sunset flip, in a world where matches are pre determined it just doesnt look as legit as the pedigree does or a choke slam or even to a lesser extent a ddt

 

[Y 2 Jake]

It's wrestling. So The Canadian Destroyer is probably one of the best wrestling moves there is. It looks impressive, which is all that matters.

You really shouldn't look into the logic of wrestling moves too hard. If you do you can pick holes in most of the great finishing moves. But you can also find erit in ''stupid'' wrestling moves.

The Worm looks like shit. But it finishes with a chop to the sternum. Which if you recieved of somebody who's over 200lbs would hurt. But as a wrestling move it looks crap.

 

[Father:_Polley]

how many kids are really going to go 'that's not real as the person receiving it really needs to do a backflip to pull the move off'?

the move is the most impressive finisher around, and the fact that it looks as if someone's being flipped and dropped on their heads doesn't hurt it's legitimacy as a finisher. to me, it looks more legit than a guy bouncing off the ropes and dropping a leg across your throat.

 

[AndySmithers]

I love the move. Probably one of the best finishers I have seen. I love watching it. The first time I saw the move I rewinded 10 times lol.

The only finisher I think that is better than it would have to be Hogan's leg drop

 

[turbomonkey484]

I don't really care that it doesn't look legitimate sometimes, because it always looks completely awesome. And i think there is a lot of other stupid stuff going on in TNA that makes all wrestling look illegitimate so it doesn't really matter.

But seriously it is easily the best finisher in wrestling today. it just looks insane!

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

Dont get me wrong i love the canadian destroyer but the whole issue i have with it that it doesnt look as powerful if someone if helping you to pull the move off imagine if whomever petey tried to do the finisher on decided to block it, its looks great its just not up there with my top ten finishers, as for the hogan leg drop that move is as legit as a ddt

 

[Father:_Polley]

don't get me wrong, i'v no problem saying hogan's leg drop is legit. it just doesnt have that 'wow, that's impressive factor'. it's just a leg across the upper chest from no great height.

the CD has the wow factor, but there is that factor of the fact that the other guy jumps. but the first time i say it, i still thought it looked painful and impressive

and for those who are unaware:
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that is the canadian destroyer

 

[JJohns]

The problem with the Canadian Destroyer is the fact that to do the move, your opponent actually does most of the work. Look at Trevor Murdoch's attempted variation when Matt Hardy wasn't able to complete the back flip. It looked like garbage, but it wasn't all Murdoch's fault.

You want a finisher that looks legit, has a wow factor, and that you won't see a WWE or TNA wrestler do any time soon......

I give you the Muscular Bomb.

 

[L4L]

Well if the Canadian Destroyer doesn't look legit I can name about 20 other finishers that don't look legit. I love the Canadian Destroyer one of the best Finishers in wrestling right now. Choke slams are another move that totally relys on the other guy I mean do you really think undertaker could chokeslam someone like Mark Henry or Big Show if they didn't jump hell no. Even a guy like Cena Undertaker isn't chokeslamming him without him jumping. Most finishers require help from the other guy not just the Canadian Destroyer. The best move is the Gringo Killer by homocide.

 

[JJohns]

Well if the Canadian Destroyer doesn't look legit I can name about 20 other finishers that don't look legit. I love the Canadian Destroyer one of the best Finishers in wrestling right now. Choke slams are another move that totally relys on the other guy I mean do you really think undertaker could chokeslam someone like Mark Henry or Big Show if they didn't jump hell no. Even a guy like Cena Undertaker isn't chokeslamming him without him jumping. Most finishers require help from the other guy not just the Canadian Destroyer. The best move is the Gringo Killer by homocide.

Difference between Canadian Destroyer and Chokeslam......Canadian Destroyer completely relies in your opponent's co-operation, every single time. I would love to see anyone do a flipping piledriver against even a 150 pound guy that's sandbagging. The chokeslam, on the other hand, there are guys that can legit muscle their opponent up for it. The jump is only an assist in those cases.

 

[avrice]

the Canadian Destroyer looks to be a great move , it was very innovative and was something new that I haven't seen on US TV before, I hope that more new moves come out of TNA although I don't watch TNA on a Regular Basis some of the wrestling on there tends to make me wonder what happened as they don't get to tell much of a story in some points and seem a lil rushed to get a match over. I dunno why they would call it a Canadian Destroyer though sounds to me like someone who would be on a Crusade to stop all the Canadian Wrestlers, maybe they should name it the it the Nail in the Coffin cause once it's hit there is no getting out.

 

[Kyphael]

Look at it this way. The Canadian Destroyer made Petey Williams in TNA, it was his identity. Hell, before Scott Steiner made him "Lil' Petey Pump', it was his moniker. It was all he was known for. Without it, he would have just been another generic X-Division wrestler. On the flip side, the leg drop as has been discussed did not make Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan MADE the leg drop. He could have had any other finishing move but he didn't need it, because Hogan was already a household name. That's why he could get an entire crowd of 80,000 plus people pop to a simple leg drop.

As for whether or not The Canadian Destroyer looks fake? When I first saw it, it looked sick and I was impressed. I had never seen anything like it so it blew my mind. It has the effect. But as I watched it be delivered time and again, I started to wonder how Petey pulled it off and began watching it in slow motion. It was then I discovered how fake it is, as really it's the recipient of the move doing a back flip. Does that hurt Petey? No. He's an X-Division wrestler. His job is to wow the people with high-flying antics and spot matches. However, it makes it difficult for him to ever transition into the world title scene, as it may look sloppy being delivered on bigger guys--if it can even be done on some of the less athletic heavyweights. Notice he's only done it on guys his size or slightly taller. You'll never see Petey do it on Hernandez, Sting, Booker T, Rober Roode, James Storm... maybe Joe and Angle can sell it but I think I made my point. It's ok to have a flashy finisher that doesn't look real as long as you're ok with never making it to the top.

To cement my point, look at some of the guys considered small that made it to the top in the WWE. The first that comes to mind is Shawn Michaels. His finisher is a super kick. Totally believable, as the recipient only receives a jaw-shattering blow that can put anyone down. Chris Jericho. Walls of Jericho, what used to be an elevated boston crab but is still as deadly as a simple boston crab. It's a submission move, again totally believable. Rey Mysterio has the 619. Looks flashy but still totally believable because the recipient just gets kicked in the face then either has a leg dropped across his neck from up high or gets locked in a hurricarana, which is pretty common and almost anyone can sell.

Maybe if TNA ever goes under, and Petey decides to head to the WWE, he'll change his finisher to something more believable that won't keep him grounded to wowing the crowd with an unbelievable finisher.

 

[American Psycho]

I completely disagree with DOUCHEMISTER, I think the Canadian Destroyer looks legit and btw the Pedigree has degenerated to look like complete shit. No one sells that move @ all anymore, too much landing on their side and whatnot.

Jake_Stoke has the right idea. Just like the pedigree probably wowed u the 1st time u saw it, the Canadian Destroyer made me do the same. It is one of the most, if not the most entertaining finishing move in wrestling today!

It is extremely innovative and it so quick some you have no time to think, everytime u see it u just go "WOW".

 

[RKO Orton]

To me, that move is as sick as hell and is legit. Sure, the opponent has to cooperate with Petey, but a piledriver is a piledriver. Does the Undertaker's Tombstone Piledriver look legit? No. The wrestler is 2-3 inches from the mat when he lands. The Canadian Destroyer actually has the man fall on his head, like a piledriver should look like. Same thing with the Pedigree, it has looked worse more and more times I see it. It just looks like the guy falls on his arms and Triple covers. It doesn't take anything away from the move, however.

 

[puffnpi]

Everyone is saying that Petey's opponent is the one who really makes the move, but that isn't true. I attended TNA's first ever house show in Michigan a few years ago, and Jim Cornette (then the manager of Team Canada) hit a CD on one of the members of the Insane Clown Posse and it looked like crap. Does the opponent have to help Petey out with the move?...yes. But I give Petey credit for making it look awesome and for not injuring his opponent in the move. The WWE has banned the piledriver altogether, and Petey hits a flipping piledriver to end his matches. I think it's one of the best finishers out there.

 

[JJohns]

Everyone is saying that Petey's opponent is the one who really makes the move, but that isn't true. I attended TNA's first ever house show in Michigan a few years ago, and Jim Cornette (then the manager of Team Canada) hit a CD on one of the members of the Insane Clown Posse and it looked like crap. Does the opponent have to help Petey out with the move?...yes. But I give Petey credit for making it look awesome and for not injuring his opponent in the move. The WWE has banned the piledriver altogether, and Petey hits a flipping piledriver to end his matches. I think it's one of the best finishers out there.

OK, I was at that show too, and I don't know what match you were watching? First of all, Jim Cornette wasn't even in TNA at the time. The manager for Team Canada was Coach Scott D'Amore. The person hit with the Canadian Destroyer was neither Shaggy 2 Dope or Violent J, but rather Team Canada member Eric Young, (D'Amore lost his glasses and went apeshit when he got them back and saw what they did). I agree, the CD didn't look as good as it did if Petey did it, but EY did a good job selling it.

 

[puffnpi]

I do apologize, and I do stand corrected. I remembered the manager losing his glasses and hitting a CD (and unfortunately, I also remembered Cornette losing his glasses in a scaffold match and blowing out his knees on landing and transposed the two memories) but you're right, the CD didn't look that good. I will ALWAYS give credit to Petey for being able to execute the move and make it look incredible.

 

[Rusty]

TNA Impact has just recently started airing here in Australia. So I have only watched about 3 or 4 episodes of Impact. I am a "newbie" in regards to TNA.

I personally like Petey and his finisher is fricken awesome!!! It is one of the best looking finishers in TNA. Ok so it might not look too 'real' as the other guy has to jump for the move to be executed but the Canadian Destroyer is a move that people might say "Wow did u see that?".

It looks much better than most of the finishers in the WWE eg. F.U, Spear, Playmaker.

 

[TomSmithUK]

I don't think it looks legit. It doesn't look right.

Theres effectively three types of finisher:

-Submission - Self explanatory (Sharpshooter, Ankle Lock, Walls of Jericho)
-Explosive - Sudden impact moves (RKO, Sweet Chin Music) or aerial attacks (Swanton)
-Power - The attacker overpowers the opponent (Chokeslam, Batista Bomb, FU)

Submissions can be slapped on anytime, and the opponent is free to struggle, because it still looks real.

Explosive are ideal for set pieces, and the opponnent just has to go with it.

Power can have struggling since the user has the power to pull it off.

With the Candian Destroyer, the opponent can't struggle in Kayfabe, because he has too much to do in reality. And it is a dangerous move to take, as a wrestler, I would have my full attention on getting set to take the move, not to sell it to the crowd.


It feels to scripted to be a finishing move for me, sorry guys who love it, yeah it looks good, but it doesn't feel right.

 

[absent]

Ok, to those who have a bit of knowledge on how wrestling moves work, the canadian destroyer is a move where the opponent needs to do quite a bit for it to be pulled off, but as far as coming off like a move which could actually knock a guy out, yes it does look legit.

The pedigree, give me a brake, the way it's executed now is just a guy landing flat from about 3-4 foot up. My foggy memory gives the impression that when Hunter Hurst Hemsley used to do it back when it was new, it had more of a head plant type effect but nowadays it doesn't look anything like the kind of high impact move that would "finish a guy off".

 

[mstaken]

I can tell you that seeing the Canadian Destroyer performed in person is awesome. I was impressed and thrilled with that move since the first time that I saw it. It is a risk move that could injure Petey and the opponent should he not execute the move correctly. It is a fast move too. Now, I also loved an old school move that Petey used to perform that I would love to see him bring back. It is the "Oh Canada" move. He puts the opponent in the tree of woe, stands on his opponent's crotch and interacts with the crowd by singing - Oh Canada! Fun for the crowd interaction and painful for the opponent - all at the same time! It would work well with the Maple Leaf Muscle gimmick. Overall, the Canadian Destroyer is a great finisher. I would say from all the finishers that I have seen in person, it is one of the best!

 

[Kfabe]

The C.D. is one of the best moves ever. For somebody to be complaining that it doesnt look legit because the other guy has to help is just plain stupid! This is wrestling, we all know its fake (unless your under the age of 10) so why are you complaining? When somebody watches a film and thet see a guy kill somebody, do they walk out and say that was rubbish because you know it wasn't real? No of course not. TNA is an entertaiinment show, just like any other show on TV. The problem these days is that there is too many people trying to be smarks and pick apart everything the shows do instead of just enjoying the talent on show. We could sit and pick apart all the mistakes made in films that make the box office but we don't. We still enjoy them as entertainment so what is the difference with the wrestling shows?
I think the internet fans really need to start and grow up because if everyone thought like you clowns, there would be no TNA or WWE or ANY other wrestling out there, they would be driven out of busiiness. Then what would you be left with to complain about? The weather?
If you dont like it, why watch it? All you are doing is taking credit away from a damn good athelete who is genuinly risking great injury by trying to give you all something a bit different.
The C.D. is second only to the gringo killer. Followed closely by the brain buster on the turnbuckle...
Respect to every wrestler who tries to be innovative for us, rather than another lemming who follows the crowd....

 

[TomSmithUK]

How is it stupid that people dislike the other guy helping out? Yes wrestling is fake, but it still tries to keep some realm of reality, and it just sticks out as one of those moves that you love or hate.

If it wasn't so new to watch you'd not be as defensive of it. The 619 is just as scripted for the set piece and is heavily critised

 

[wakeupandrage]

The Canadian destroyer is the epitome of the internet mark mentality of there only being two kinds of selling, no-selling, and dead.

modern piledriver finishers are fine, look at jerry lynns cradle piledriver, he has to struggle to apply it, so there is a ton of credibility in wearing his opponent down before being able to hit it. the move is so incredibly contrived and even the biggest mark can see right through it when he has never hit the move on someone bigger than him ever.

 

[Kfabe]

How is it stupid that people dislike the other guy helping out? Yes wrestling is fake, but it still tries to keep some realm of reality, and it just sticks out as one of those moves that you love or hate.

Do box office films also try to portray a realm of reality? Of course they do. When you watch a kung fu film and the guy does a 20 foot flying kick, we all know it's done with the aid of wires, but that doesn't stop you enjoying the film does it? Please explain the difference to me....?

If it wasn't so new to watch you'd not be as defensive of it. The 619 is just as scripted for the set piece and is heavily critised

So are you a mind reader now? You know better than I do the reasons behind me defending the move?
The reason I defend the move has nothing to do with how new it is. It is simply because I enjoy watching it and I apreciate the hard work that goes into doing it. I suppose all the people on here that have been slating it could do any better? No I dont think so.