Does Daniel Bryan need a new finisher

[the_vipers_enigma]

I know that the hole submission thing is part of his gimmick and he is very good at it, but does he need a new finishing move with wich he can pin his opponents?

 

[mdj2010]

It's not like you haven't already answered your own question, but here goes. Of course he doesn;t need a new finisher. Firstly. they have renamed the thing the 'Yes Lock' and has him screaming his catchphrase as he applies the hold. Secondly, as you stated, the guy is WWE's submission specialist, why would they want to give him a pinning finisher?

So many things are wrong with the wrestling industry at any given time, don't pick on the good things.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

It's not that he needs a new finisher, but he needs a high impact move that he can use to get a pinfall victory. In the same way that Angle has the Angle lock and Olympic slam. Bryan needs something that he can pin someone with because you can't make everyone tap.

 

[Mustang Sally]

It's not that he needs a new finisher, but he needs a high impact move that he can use to get a pinfall victory.

You could be right, but I think the way they've built Daniel's recent push is predicated on the opponents he's faced. Against Big Show and Mark Henry, Daniel is so much smaller that any kind of high impact move would probably look contrived and fake. Bryan's ring tactics are built to accent how a small guy can beat bigger opponents by chipping away at their weaknesses and attacking their lower bodies to get in offense while not having to suffer counter-moves.

That's what Daniel does.....and he does it so well because of the arsenal of wrestling tactics he has at his disposal. I don't think he needs a new finisher, although with his mastery of technical wrestling, he'll likely come up with one before long. Fighting guys more his size, like Punk, will enable him to deliver more power moves than he has. His versatility will take care of the rest.

 

[JaceEvans]

Yea I have to agree that he does need a High Impact finisher. The argument that hes a submission specialist doesn't hold water. He's an entertainer first and foremost and adding a new finisher creates a new wrinkle in his persona, I mean look at Chris Jericho he used the Walls of Jericho forever and then when he added the Code Breaker did it hurt him? No, it just added to his already impressive arsenal just like a new finisher would do for D-Bry.

 

[C-Dawg]

I think it's purely a size issue. Bryan is a fair amount smaller that Angle and it just wouldn't look realistic him using a high impact move like a slam on people who are 250+ pounds when he himself is probably around the 180 mark (even if he's billed at 210). In his WWE days Angle was stacked so the German suplexes and Olympic slams looked attainable. If Bryan were to have a pinning finisher it would have to be something like a badass kick but he's already been doing his kicks to the head and chest and missile dropkicks for ever so I don't see what he could add to his arsenal in that respect. Maybe something new off the top rope might work however.

 

[Batteryguy]

I think he needs to use Cattle Mutilation as a finisher again.The YES/Lebell Lock is kinda stale.And i like Danielson alot......I guess i just like Cattle Mutilation better as a finisher.

 

[WJDwjdWJDwjd]

I don't think he needs it, but it wouldn't hurt to have one. I could see Daniel Bryan utilizing a move like Edge's Downward Spiral as a further set up to the "Yes Lock". Ideally, I'd like to see him dig further into his arsenal of submissions though. We've only seen his "Cattle Mutilation" move once or twice since he's been here and that's been one he's used his entire career. So, "YES YES YES" to a finishers, but more so to more submission variations.

 

[Dayno]

Yes, I do agree he needs an impact move. But something that he only uses to win on the weekly shows or to make a statement in a fued, on PPV keep the Yes lock and perhaps use the impact move as a setup to the Yes lock, obviously changing this formula so it doesn't get old. As someone else said its alot like Jericho with the Codebreaker or Angle with the Angle Slam, it works, it gets the job done and its something he can pull out of nowhere, but everyone wants to see the submission.

Also I'd just like to add. Surfboard/Dragon Sleeper combo he did on Punk at OTL, HOLY SHIT

 

[a member of wwe universe]

criticizing the daniel bryans finisher is like the equivalent of saying Benoit's crossface sucks, not effective. His finisher is completely fine. I think DB needs to have more swag with the execution though. Like the ability to execute the lock in mid air or via a counter.

 

[SD619]

Not necessarily. He can win matches by using a plethora of submissions. He could have a set of 3-4 submissions and use different submissions to win matches. That would really fit into his gimmick as a submission specialist. He could have a pinning finisher as a last resort move.

It is not necessary that a wrestler have a pinning finisher in order to have a great career. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 

[Lewis617]

How often did Bret Hart or Chris Benoit win by pinfall? Only with the occasional rollup quick win. They never needed a finishing move other than their submission holds. You are lookin too far into this. Reason being: Chris Jericho. As soon as he started using the codebreaker, everyone thought that a wrestler can't have just one finishing maneuver if it is a submission hold, they have to have another one so they can win by pinfall. You can make a huge list of people who's finishing move was a submission hold, and they never needed a pinfall type finisher. smh, get a life dude

 

[Nate DaMac]

How often did Bret Hart or Chris Benoit win by pinfall? Only with the occasional rollup quick win. They never needed a finishing move other than their submission holds. You are lookin too far into this. Reason being: Chris Jericho. As soon as he started using the codebreaker, everyone thought that a wrestler can't have just one finishing maneuver if it is a submission hold, they have to have another one so they can win by pinfall. You can make a huge list of people who's finishing move was a submission hold, and they never needed a pinfall type finisher. smh, get a life dude

Chris Benoit won matches with the Flying Headbutt here and there. Hart never had a finisher other than a Sharpshooter, but he won matches by pinfall quite a bit. Also, telling someone to get a life while using the "smh" acronym is a glowing example of irony.

I really don't think it is a bad idea to give him a regular finisher. Matches are a little more exciting when you don't know exactly how it's going to end. Besides, he could use a new move if he has to face a guy like Cena who won't tap out.

It isn't a necessity, but it wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[Death Before Disco]

I'm fine with the Yes! Lock as Bryan's primary finisher too. Like other posters have stated, I think of Bret Hart and Ric Flair too. They didn't need a second finisher. I would love to see the cattle mutilation on occasion though, and a nice Koji Clutch every now and then would be the icing on the cake. These moves wouldn't diminish Bryan as a submission specialist and would add to his already-impressive move set.

 

[DallasMack]

There's no need to make every wrestler the same. Bryan does what he does with his various submissions. He is the type of wrestler, like Bret Hart, who damages you with every premeditated blow. Sure, Hart had the Piledriver, but what else did he have? Russian Leg Sweep? Diving Knee from the second rope?

Bryan is fine. His kicks make a lot of sound and can give the feeling of high impact. No need to change him whatsoever.

 

[pshanbhag92]

Does Daniel Bryan need a new finisher? Not at all.

He can use a variety of submission holds instead of having just one finisher. That'd be better. Since he wouldn't have one finisher, his opponent (kayfabe) wouldn't know what to watch out for.

 

[#BabyFace]

He does NOT need to get rid of the YES lock at all.
But he does need another finisher that isnt a submission so he can pick up a pinfall. The fact is, it wont look right when Daniel Bryan slaps the YES lock on Kane or Mark Henry, your not going to believe them tapping. And we all know if he faces SuperCena that he isnt getting John to tap.
Even Kurt Angle(the last great submission specialist we had in WWE) had an alternate move for pinfalls. It wasnt anything to flashy, just a type of suplex.
Since Daniel Bryan always seems to be in fueds with guys 10x bigger than him, D-Bry should probably go with something off the top rope. A beautiful disaster would look nice off the top rope, especially with Daniel Bryan's deadly kicks.

 

[CyberPunk]

He is fine with his YES! lock. He can always have a pinfall via one of his kicks to the head (which already look deadly). Also, I think recently he's been using the flying headbutt (or setting up his opponents for one). He can use more submissions though and occassional pin fall would do for him.
PS. I was very happy to see Sheamus pass out to his labell/YES lock. They can use that bit more: if you don't tap, you pass out.

 

[The Eighties]

Having a striking finisher would be a decent idea given he's a heel and is unlikely to tap Cena or Orton out, of course he could just go the Bret Hart route and win those matches with versions of the roll up. Bryan is so good I'm sure he could come up with a cool pin fall finisher to add to his YES!-Lock though.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

criticizing the daniel bryans finisher is like the equivalent of saying Benoit's crossface sucks, not effective. His finisher is completely fine. I think DB needs to have more swag with the execution though. Like the ability to execute the lock in mid air or via a counter.

I don't think anyone here is critizing the Yes Lock. But just like Benoit had the diving headbutt to complement his crossface, Bryan could add something to complement his Yes Lock.

 

[cult_of_icecream_bar]

He was a student of HBK,so he can use the superkick as an alternate finisher,also a mule kick or a pele kick can be effective.They can say he user MMA moves which make 'em credible.

 

[showstoppaa]

I'm sure I've seen him pin people with a head kick, which I think could work at the moment. Shouldn't be a regular occurance, but it could be like Bryan's version of Big Show's knockout punch, which looks weak as hell compared to Bryan's head kick which could clearly knock you out.

One thing I would like to happen is for him to gain submission victories with various submissions, like the guilletine which was used by him a few times on Smackdown. If Bryan is winning with moves like the yes lock, guilletine and even the cattle mutilation, it could add so much more drama to a match, seeing as everytime he locks in a submission it could genuinly appear as if the opponent is in danger of tapping, unlike how it is right now when you can tell it won't be over until the yes lock is applied.

 

[TLK]

One thing I will say is that whenever people add more finishers to their repertoire, it makes for some very convincing nearfalls in bigtime matches. When Taker added the Last Ride and Hell's Gate as finishers, it made for some great drama in his matches, because when someone kicked out of Last Ride or broke Hell's Gate, it meant something. The same can be said for Jericho's Codebreaker, Cena's AA/STF, etc. It never hurts to get another move over to the point that when you execute it, people truly believe that the match could be over.

 

[MCMG]

Yes. Submissions only get you so far and get repetitive. When you look at Angle,Jericho,Benoit,Taker they all had submission finishers but also had other maneuvers which could finish a match. Problem with Bryan is that he is a lot smaller than these guys and i'm not sure if he has the agility of a sin cara, rey mysterio,kofi,Evan bourne and could do a finisher like them.

They need to find a new finisher for him which could add to his move-set. A move which could be cool is the paydirt that Shelton Benjamin used. I loved this finisher and i would like to see this back. It also had the advantage of Bryan holding his upper body during this move and therefore has the potential to lead to a submission move.

 

[Y2J__Y2J]

I don't personally think so, but a finisher that leads to a pin wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen. It makes it a little more spontaneous when someone hits a move out of nowhere and then 1-2-3. But look at Jericho, since he began using the Codebreaker, I don't think anyone has tapped out to the Walls of Jericho. I don't want to see the Yes Lock going down the same route