does anyone else think the WWE has/is wasting the Big Show?

[theeffinman]

Is it just me or is the Big Show been wasted for over ten years now? a guy who is advertised as over seven feet tall and 4oo lbs. with his skill set should be wresting for the title more often. and also, if cena is the hogan of our time, and i think he is, why doesn't he and the Big Show face off one on one. they would have to build Show up to look unbeatable and then have cena bodyslam him at mania next year.

just some thought. feedback is appreciated.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

The Big Show has been very badly mismanaged during his 10 years in the WWE. And that is exactly the reason people look upon him as a joke as far as being a serious contender for a Heavyweight Title today. Several years ago, supposedly there was going to be a push on the part of WWE to make Big Show more "like Andre the Giant". Obviously, that never transpired. He's been jobbed out over and over and over again. Furthermore, regarding this latest title match, why would they involve him in a feud with the Undertaker, only to lose that feud ... and then push him straight into contendership for a Heavyweight Title?

Just very bad booking on their part, which they have nobody to blame but themselves.

As far as the World Title match, I think John Cena vs Big Show could have actually worked if they did a better job booking Big Show several months prior, and gave him a push to make him look unbeatable again. They should have started planning this around Survivor Series of last year. But I dare say Vince didn't even start planning Mania until around the Rumble. That is their biggest mistake. They aren't thinking long term anymore.

John Cena vs Edge would have worked, even though I would have hated it, given how much these two have already feuded over the years. Hell, they feuded for virtually 9 months in the year 2006. It was absolutely ridiculous.

But I think I would have preferred either one of those scenarios compared to yet another over-done Triple Threat Match, which Vince has a fixation on doing at Mania time.

It should have been Triple H vs Edge and John Cena vs Randy Orton, which was supposedly the game plan all along, until Vince decided to change it up. Big mistake, as far as I'm concerned.

But anyway, yeah Big Show has been pretty much wasted. Another Andre the Giant type moment with Cena bodyslamming Big Show would have been great to see, if they went with that scenario. They still might ... but it would have been more epic had it been a one on one match as opposed to another damn Triple Threat Match.

 

[justinsayne]

Absolutely not, Big Show has proven to be nothing more than fat and lazy bum, and yet he's in his second WM ME of his WWE career, and is a former champion, he has also always manged to find his way into high profile feuds and PPV matches, WWE has been more than generous with Big Show as far as pushing him over the past ten years

 

[Vee Dub Represent]

Not really, I think WWF has done a wonderful job and it is Paul Wight himself that was lacking. His best days were in WCW and got so out of shape once in the WWF that they would have released him outright in 2000 if it wasnt for the huge ass contract he had signed a year earlier. He was capable of doing amazing things in the ring for a guy his size but he blew up like a balloon the day he showed up to work for Vince, and yet somehow they let him be a champion in the attitude era, then let him be the one to beat Brock Lesnar for the title. From that point on, he was always just there but always promoted as something special. As for these days, again he should consider himself lucky he is in the spot he's in, he is a shell of what talent he used to be and is on his retirement run, and yet he is promoted to the main event of Wrestlemania with an outside chance that he may win, id call that pretty lucky and far from being underused. He doesnt have much more talent than every other big man they have every brought in, and id say considering his lack of talent, he has had on hell of a career.

 

[Pbenglish]

I dare say Vince didn't even start planning Mania until around the Rumble. That is their biggest mistake. They aren't thinking long term anymore.
John Cena vs Edge would have worked, even though I would have hated it, given how much these two have already feuded over the years. Hell, they feuded for virtually 9 months in the year 2006. It was absolutely ridiculous.

Just off topic a bit here, do you not think it's strange that you chide WWE/McMahon for not "thinking long term anymore", then complain about two stars being put into a long term feud? It can't go both ways.

Now as to Big Show. I think he's been wasted for sure. Part of that is WWE's fault for not pushing him in better feuds/angles (anyone remember a few years ago when he was thrown into an angle where he mimicked past WWE stars? Not the best way to showcase him).
The other part of it is his (Big Show's) own fault. I've read countless stories where he's been accused of being lazy and unmotivated. I'm sure that WWE is hesitant to push someone who'll not put forth the effort they want out of one of their main eventers.
All in all, despite all the comparisons between the two, Big Show is NOT Andre the Giant, never will be.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

If anything, I'd say the Big Show is lucky. Heck, how can he be misused if he is fighting for the World Heavyweight Championship at Wrestlemania?

Sure, you can look back and see that he lost a feud to the Undertaker, but he didn't look weak, even in his losses.

The Big Show, in my estimation, is just like Kane in the sense that, you could argue that they've both been "misused." But, both of them are almost always on every PPV, they both always have at least one or two notable singles feuds per year, they both get involved in at least one PPV title main event a year and etc.

And considering that Big Show has been World Heavyweight Champion, WWE Champion, and ECW Champion and the fact that he's heading into his second Wrestlemania main event would suggest that he hasn't been misused at all. His pushes have been inconsistent and WWE creative seems to randomly flip a switch with him turning him from unstoppable monster, to somewhat comical jobber and back again seemingly overnight.

But like many other veteran superstars, including Chris Jericho, Big Show can lose 10 matches in a row and then pick up a win and still be considered a threat and a #1 contender. As for the reason he wasn't pushed hard heading into Wrestlemania is because he's really just an accessory to the Edge/Cena feud. He is there to add a bit of a different dynamic and add to a ridiculous love triangle with him, Edge, and Vickie. The push might be a little late, but how many times have we seen Cena get that dominated and put up no fight like that on Raw?

I can recall only in a match against Khali at SNME and this match on Raw against Show.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Just off topic a bit here, do you not think it's strange that you chide WWE/McMahon for not "thinking long term anymore", then complain about two stars being put into a long term feud? It can't go both ways.

I need you to be more specific with what you are getting at, in order to issue a response. I do chide Vince and WWE for not thinking long-term anymore, yes.

Are you referring to Big Show and Undertaker for being put into a long-term feud?

Now as to Big Show. I think he's been wasted for sure. Part of that is WWE's fault for not pushing him in better feuds/angles (anyone remember a few years ago when he was thrown into an angle where he mimicked past WWE stars? Not the best way to showcase him).

That was one of the characters I definitely took exception to Big Show playing. I am not a big fan of monsters taking part in comedic angles like that, and that definitely took Big Show down several notches.

The other part of it is his (Big Show's) own fault. I've read countless stories where he's been accused of being lazy and unmotivated. I'm sure that WWE is hesitant to push someone who'll not put forth the effort they want out of one of their main eventers.

Well, if he is lazy and un-motivated, then why did WWE sign him to that long-term a deal? If he is lazy and un-motivated, then why does WWE push him, then not push him, then push him to the Main Event, then turn him into a comedic character?

Either way, this is ultimately WWE's fault. Not Big Show's fault. Keep in mind that Big Show left the WWE. They were the ones that took him back. Whether they contacted him or if he contacted them, they still brought him back. So that is all on them, as far as I'm concerned. So if that is the case, then they need to book the guy properly leading into a Mania Title feud. I am willing to bet that they did not have plans for Big Show to be part of a title match, and Vince said he wanted him added to the World Title Match right after No Way Out. If that is the case, then no, he did not plan this in advance, like he should have. Then, he could have properly started building Big Show up around late last year, to be taken seriously. Nobody takes Big Show seriously as a Heavyweight Title contender anymore.

All in all, despite all the comparisons between the two, Big Show is NOT Andre the Giant, never will be.

They could have booked him to be more like Andre in terms of personality. But when they give him comedic characters to mimick other superstars over the years, and allow him to show him as having a sense of humor over the years ... then, what can you say?

Blame goes all on WWE and Vince for this one. They were the ones that brought him back, after working with the guy for 10 years.

 

[Dave]

Yeah I think we have it right, the general consensus is that Big Show has been poorly managed considering his height and weight. Concerning this Wrestlemania, does anyone else think that he would have been close to the main event if Batista had been fit?

 

[Chrisjeffers]

Does anyone remember what Big Show said apon release?
Something like I won't use my slave name...
He fought wwe they fought back...
That was how wwe used Big show last time.
Big show tried boxing and failed.
He realized that his "slave name" was better then his name!
Now he's back!
Personally I think Tna would be a better choice.

triple threat match...
Cena powerslams Big Show....
Edge spears Cena
Edge pins Big Show...


The Canadian wins

 

[dmacizdman]

Is it just me or is the Big Show been wasted for over ten years now? a guy who is advertised as over seven feet tall and 4oo lbs. with his skill set

which would be what? he's too slow to actually have any legit wrestling moves. the only thing he can do is punch and chokeslam people.

same with the great khali. they throw these guys into championship matches with no real storyline background, hoping something sticks. it hasn't and probably never will.

 

[rnzrkorip]

did anyone notice what they said on raw on how much the big show weighed? 485lbs. now if that is true, than.....what the hell?! when he first came back, i could sware he was near 400lbs. and since he's been back, he's been getting fatter and slower as time has gone on. so i think the wwe has given big show a gift as far as being able to even be a part of wrestlemania. seriously michael cole, unless vince yelled at you to say that, you should have kept the big show's current real weight quiet. i don't think that really did him or anybody else any favors.

 

[OIL]

Yeah, deffo.

Big Show could really be a big time player in the WWE. He is the largest athlete apparently, and they can use that to their advantage. I know highlighting the strength of Big Show can get old after a few times, but he's not exactly bad in the ring. If he could up his game a bit, he should have a run as WWE/WH champion.

 

[smalltownfan]

To me, the Big Show has been grossly underutilized during his WWE career. In my eyes, he was best used during his run in ECW where he was being billed as an unstoppable and dominant force free to go as extreme as he wanted. He also wasn't too bad when he first broke into WWE and then when he teamed with Undertaker to win the tag titles. He needs to be cast as the unstoppable, dominant giant who very rarely loses. Look at how he dominated John Cena this past Monday night on RAW. That's how it needs to be all the time with him. Forget this crap with Vickie and turn into that unstoppable, unstable, uncontrollable monster we know he can be. I tell you one thing he needs to start doing right now and that is lose weight again and keep it off because the bigger he gets, the more his chances diminish of remaining at main-even status because WWE is not a fan of wrestlers who don't take care of themselves. When he came back a year or so ago, he looked better than he did when he was in WCW but now he's gaining his weight back. He needs to get it back under control and keep it at around 400-425 to stay effective. Anything above 450 will not work.

 

[adamjv80]

How the hell could anybody think that hes being wasted? I'll give you two reasons why I think hes in a position above what he DESERVES to be in.

1. He's competing for the WHC at the grandddaddy of em all, with the lights on bright, Wrestlemania. This will arguably be either the last match, or the next to last(unless they through a filler in like they often do.) Hes in there with arguably the biggest name in the company, John Cena, and the guy who has won more overall titles(including tag and IC championships) then anybody in the history of WWE, Edge. And what has he done to add to the storyline? His work on the mic is beyond terrible? I remember laughing at the squeal in his voice when he responded to Vikki's putting Cena into the WHC match of, "Im the No. 1 contender, who cares what the fans think?" Cena and Edge outclasss him in every way.

2. The guy is borrrrrrrinnnnggggg to watch. He has 2 speeds in the ring: very slow, and standing still. I have a broken ankle and torn acl right now and could move faster in the ring then that guy. He was given a chance to have a feud with the Undertaker, and he just couldnt cut it. People didnt care. Granted, the storyline sucked, but two good workers could turn a bad storyline into a decent match. He didnt, and the whole feud sucked. If this guy is wasted, then Triple H is underpushed. Just sayin.....

 

[GNR8701]

How can you say that he is being mis-managed!!!!! Look at all the huge guys and all the health problems they have faced over the years because they are too big. Bigelow, Andre, giant gonzales, Khali, and all the other huge guys . . . (not big, i mean huge as in tall and heavy) . . . have all had careers and lives shortened, but big show remains suprisingly athletic for someone that much bigger than all of his opponents. He isnt lazy - he is supposed to be a heel despite the fact that everyone loves and cheers him, and heels are supposed to work slow and get heat. He is the only man to hold WCW, ECW, and WWE titles ever and dont say that he should win every match because if he did that then you would complain that he doesnt put anyone over. No man in wrestling history has been 400 pounds or more and 7 feet or more for the full length of thier careers and had a longer career than the Big Show. HE IS IN THE FREAKING MAIN EVENT OF WRESTLEMANIA 25 !!!!!!!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLY MIS-MANAGED?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[theeffinman]

which would be what? he's too slow to actually have any legit wrestling moves. the only thing he can do is punch and chokeslam people.

same with the great khali. they throw these guys into championship matches with no real storyline background, hoping something sticks. it hasn't and probably never will.

To compare the big show with khali as far as moves go is a joke. in the ring big show actually looks like a wrestler. he can take moves from other superstars. not like khali who manages to botch taking pedigree.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

To everyone claiming that Big Show hasn't been mismanaged during his WWE tenure, that is pointing to his Mania match as "proof" that he hasn't been ... what good is being booked in a match like this if the fans perceive you as a joke going into the match? Which they do. He was booked, along with Cena and Edge, in a comedy angle. He's lost virtually all his feuds leading up to this match, which gives one the impression that he was simply added to the match at the last minute. Nobody thinks for one second that Big Show is walking out of this match with the World Heavyweight Title.

So, yes. Not only has he been mismanaged many times throughout his career, he has been mis-booked even leading up to this match.

 

[Pbenglish]

I need you to be more specific with what you are getting at, in order to issue a response. I do chide Vince and WWE for not thinking long-term anymore, yes.

Are you referring to Big Show and Undertaker for being put into a long-term feud?

I was referring more to the fact that you knocked WWE for not thinking long term (something I agree with by the way) and then in the next paragraph seemingly knocking them for booking Edge into a 9 month feud. To me it just seemed like weird wording when in one instance you condemn them for not thinking long term, then you knock them for the one really long term angle they have done in the next breath.

That was one of the characters I definitely took exception to Big Show playing. I am not a big fan of monsters taking part in comedic angles like that, and that definitely took Big Show down several notches.

This angle was insanity to put the Big Show in. Having him dress as Hogan and Piper? I just don't get it. Same can be said for his Wrestlemania "Sumo" match with Akibono. Things that just do not make sense.
I've always thought that as much as Vince loves Big Men, he has no idea how to really book GIANTS. Sure, there are exceptions (Andre and Big John Studd in the '80's and I guess the argument can be made for 'Taker too), but for the most part, Vince seems oblivious as to how to book a giant. Giant Gonzales? Earthquake/Tugboat? Tiny Lester? KANE? Vince seems to bring these monsters in, tries pushing them as monsters, when that fails (as it always does), he loses interest in them and they're put into insane story lines.

Well, if he is lazy and un-motivated, then why did WWE sign him to that long-term a deal? If he is lazy and un-motivated, then why does WWE push him, then not push him, then push him to the Main Event, then turn him into a comedic character?

I don't know. I wish they hadn't re-signed him. He wasn't doing anything just before he left (yes, I know he held the ECW title, but that brand has been so mismanaged that it really doesn't register to me). Maybe they re-signed him to keep him from going to TNA? Maybe they re-signed him just to say they had "the biggest athlete in the world" under contract? Who knows. I've stopped trying to figure out why some people are still employed with WWE. Big Show is definitely one of those people.

Either way, this is ultimately WWE's fault. Not Big Show's fault. Keep in mind that Big Show left the WWE. They were the ones that took him back. Whether they contacted him or if he contacted them, they still brought him back. So that is all on them, as far as I'm concerned. So if that is the case, then they need to book the guy properly leading into a Mania Title feud. I am willing to bet that they did not have plans for Big Show to be part of a title match, and Vince said he wanted him added to the World Title Match right after No Way Out. If that is the case, then no, he did not plan this in advance, like he should have. Then, he could have properly started building Big Show up around late last year, to be taken seriously. Nobody takes Big Show seriously as a Heavyweight Title contender anymore.

I'd say it's WWE's fault for re-signing him and also their fault for not clamping down and trying to motivate Show more. Maybe I'm a romantic or an optimist, but I'd also like to believe that people should put forth an effort and show some pride in their work, which I don't see with Big Show.

They could have booked him to be more like Andre in terms of personality. But when they give him comedic characters to mimic other superstars over the years, and allow him to show him as having a sense of humor over the years ... then, what can you say?

I don't know. I had such hope for Big Show for a fleeting moment, one year ago. The night after Wrestlemania. Big Show in the ring "congratulating" Floyd Mayweather for Wrestlemania, then starting to cry as he spoke about Ric Flair telling him he was the best big man in the business. Show talking about how he's going to turn into the dominate man in wrestling. Such a great way to start Show out as a dominate monster....then what happens? He's thrown into an angle with KHALI. Waste, waste, waste.

Blame goes all on WWE and Vince for this one. They were the ones that brought him back, after working with the guy for 10 years.

Again, I agree with you, to an extent. If WWE had no faith in the man, then they shouldn't have re-signed him, I agree completely. But I still maintain that if Show (pardon the pun) showed more effort and pride in what he does, then maybe he wouldn't have been so mismanaged all these years.

 

[Decarow]

i think he is pretty much being wasted. He was awesome in 2006 when he was the ECW champ. Looked dominated and wasn't a joke. He should go back.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

which would be what? he's too slow to actually have any legit wrestling moves. the only thing he can do is punch and chokeslam people.

ok I have to step in here. I've seen a few matches where Show attempted a Vader bomb a Power bomb and even read a few stories where he tried a moonsault. the reason he can't really do anything else is the character he portrays and his height has to come into play.

 

[jellmoo]

Oh god yes, has the Big Show ever been misused. He has been jobbed out to every flavour of the month since he joined the company.

He's been tossed from face to heel and back again with no storyline or setup, and has endured some of the most ridiculous booking ever.

Given his sheer size he should be impossible to beat. I mean it. Beating the Big Show should require a miracle. Use the guy sparingly, have him do some beat downs but very few matches. He should be the second coming of Andre the Giant, not a giant frickin jobber.

 

[Dave]

Let's not forget that The Big Show is a 5 time world champion. I didn't know that until last night. He may have been misused but he has still accumulated more reigns than most.

 

[Chill]

I have never thought the Big Show has been misused. He is usually floating around the main event and has had his fair share of main event matches at Wrestlemania...ok his record at the event is not good but he has still been involved in many high profile matches. I think WWE have been good to Show and he can come across as a legitimate threat to a title. Not many are allowed to beat Edge and Cena and even 'Taker cleanly but Big Show has and recently too. So no I don't think he has been misused, rather I think he has been used just about right. Now if you want to talk about misuse/waste of a great talent, look no further than Kane...