Do the hi-jackers actually like anything? Or do they just want to destroy the show?

[Creepy Old Man]

Single, overweight, angry, unemployed, acned white male. Bullied at school. Consistently rejected by females. That's every wrestling fan.

No, it's not, but I reckon it's a decent attempt at a portrait of the classic WWE hi-jacker. WWE, like UFC, has a lot of socially and sexually agonized males in its audience. They want to be noticed, they want to be the stars, to compensate for being nothing their entire lives. See, I thought they wanted their favourites to be pushed, plain and simple. But that's not the case: they just want to resist anything WWE gives them. They didn't want Daniel Bryan, they wanted to cheer Daniel Bryan because WWE didn't think he was the guy (Bryan has genuine supporters, don't get me wrong). When WWE willingly gave Bryan some shine this year, this agonized section of fans started booing him and chanting "turd". Hey, last year they apparently wanted Reigns to win the Rumble. DEAFENING "Roman Reigns" chants rung out, and he was cheered overwhelmingly when gaining the upper hand on Batista. This year, Reigns gets the win, but because WWE are behind him, the agonized white male rebels. Then there's the "CM Punk" chants AT, not for, AJ. It's not any expression of support, it's just "LOLZ, WE KNOW", as well as an effort to piss off the company.

So, do these hi-jacker people actually want anything from WWE? Are they just nihilists trying to destroy WWE because the world - especially the pretty girl in high school - never wanted them? Okay, I'm being a little facetious, but there's a very serious question as to whether or not these hi-jackers truly like anything.

 

[three count bout]

Well the fans wanted Punk and certainly never turned on him right? Even as a heel he was still cheered often, he had to do some pretty heinous stuff to get heat (eating ashes and Heyman dressed as Bearer) So that should answer your question right there.

The fans haven't turned on Bryan, he was put very stupidly mind you in a weird face vs face situation with Reigns. Reigns is still liked by a section of the audience so naturally they booed Bryan and supported Roman. However each week Bryan consistently proves to get the most Babyface reaction from the audience.

The mere fact that Reigns isn't booed out of every building like he was at the Rumble shows that people aren't rebelling against him as much as they're the way WWE has went about his push into the Main Event of wrestle mania. Reigns is actually getting more love than I assumed he was post Rumble I mean he's not getting Batista heat or anything.

The fans clamored for Ambrose and never turned on him the WWE decided to cool him down sadly, the same thing with Ziggler when he cashed in on ADR. He merely had a concussion that derailed all the momentum he built up.

So all in all I won't deny that some smarks are smarky for smarks sake, but I don't believe in the notion that truly over baby faces that have connected organically with the crowd will have the audience turn on them once they make it to the top.

 

[Creepy Old Man]

as a heel [Punk] was still cheered often, he had to do some pretty heinous stuff to get heat.

See I think this is part of what I'm saying. The hi-jacker type smark was cheering because it's what WWE didn't want. In fact, WWE were never truly behind Punk (the mid-card WWE Champion) and fans knew it, so they cheered him in an attempt to stick it to the brass. Face or heel alignment didn't really matter because it was obvious Punk was a pain in WWE's ass, who Triple H despised and only featured because his t-shirts sold like hot cakes. Fans chant his name to this day, to cause further chaos.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

I think fans were cheering for Reigns at the Rumble last year mostly because they were anti-Batista at the time.

As for destroying the show. I don't think so. Wrestling has always been a marriage between the product the promotion wants to have and the reaction of the crowd. If WWE listened and went on with the fan reaction WWE wouldn't have a problem with the heat guys like Reigns is getting right now.

 

[three count bout]

See I think this is part of what I'm saying. The hi-jacker type smark was cheering because it's what WWE didn't want. In fact, WWE were never truly behind Punk (the mid-card WWE Champion) and fans knew it, so they cheered him in an attempt to stick it to the brass. Face or heel alignment didn't really matter because it was obvious Punk was a pain in WWE's ass, who Triple H despised and only featured because his t-shirts sold like hot cakes. Fans chant his name to this day, to cause further chaos.

Well to this I can agree that fans will actively try to go against the WWE, however I think it's also because a segment of the audience feels the WWE doesn't want to push some of their favorite stars. You will never be able to please everybody of course as this Reigns situation is a perfect example. The WWE has to realize that in this day and age some fans don't have a problem being vocal and won't just eat up whatever they're being served and equally the company has to realize when to call audibles on things without compromising the integrity of their booking plans.

 

[Jeritron5000]

See I think this is part of what I'm saying. The hi-jacker type smark was cheering because it's what WWE didn't want. In fact, WWE were never truly behind Punk (the mid-card WWE Champion) and fans knew it, so they cheered him in an attempt to stick it to the brass. Face or heel alignment didn't really matter because it was obvious Punk was a pain in WWE's ass, who Triple H despised and only featured because his t-shirts sold like hot cakes. Fans chant his name to this day, to cause further chaos.

I think you're wildly off on this. First as the concept of the "hi-jacker" goes...it's completely fabricated and is easily visualized by you via all the stereotypes you've mentioned. Yes there are haters, but overall all you're seeing is fan participation in an era where a larger-than-ever portion of the audience is just smarter than you think. This is an era where one of WWE's main priorities is social media and...duh duh duh...fan participation. And thank heaven for it bc if they didn't, we would have had fine classics such as Orton vs Bastista at WM 30!

And people cheered heel Punk because they liked him. There have been cool heels forever. I wouldn't look too much into it.

 

[laodaron]

The WWE doesn't care about live audiences, nor should they. The group that goes to a live show and cheers for a heel or boos a face doesn't deserve to have their opinion heard. At this point, it makes more sense for the WWE to pipe in the sounds they want. The smart mark/smark/hipster wrestling fan has ruined the concept of the pop, the concept of heat, and the concept of getting over. They shit all over everything and the system and the way it should be. Basically, now, if you're at a live show and you aren't a lowlife cheer the heels, etc. I feel really bad for you and your wasted money.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I suppose it depends on the hijacker. There are genuinely some fans who're just not into some aspects of the product that are given substantial exposure and voicing their opinion in the only way they can. Some fans who go along with hijacking are a reflection of a lot of people in real life: jaded, cynical individuals that don't seem to be able to accept anything as good but, rather, they have to make some sort of snide comment or gesture. Some are just annoying assholes who refuse to leave adolescence behind while some go along with it because it's what everyone else is doing.

Hijacking a segment or match is just the evolution of the modern fan in many respects, though not necessarily in a positive way. MANY fans are spoiled by the internet and social media. Wrestling no longer has the mystique that it once had due to various wrestling websites and a lot of fans frequent said websites yet, at the same time, they expect to be "surprised" or to have something "unexpected" happen despite the knowledge that they gain or try to gain. Because of the information available to them and due to the false confidence provides by the internet and social media, a lot of fans se themselves as having extremely keen minds on how pro wrestling works despite never having worked for a pro wrestling company, worked a match, booked a card or anything else for that matter in their lives. In probably 95% of such cases of armchair booking, these fans simply state what they themselves want, how they'd go about it and hail it as being great simply because they themselves like it. Now is that really any different than what Vince McMahon does? It is when you take into account that millions upon millions of dollars potentially rests on the decisions Vince ultimately makes while said armchair booker has no such financial stake on the line. That's not to say that there aren't some good ideas that come from fans sometimes or that Vince isn't wrong sometimes, however.

 

[TheLoneCharles]

My opinion on the matter is simply the outcome of the last few royal rumbles were too predictable and the fans wanted more. I feel Wwe has become almost too predictable and fans resent it. There is so much talent on the roster and it's a shame no one gives a damn audience-wise. Give us reasons to care about who is wrestling who and why we want to see each guy win.

Roman Reigns isn't really the problem here, although he desperately needs his own identity apart from the shield. Change your music and your outfit!

 

[Woodstuff]

I'm gonna agree with Jack-Hammer here. The IWC is infested with armchair bookers that have literally no clue what's happening behind the WWE curtain outside of what they read on sites like WZ. Then they tune into Raw and complain when what they interpreted an article to mean or what they IMAGINED would go down isn't what happens on screen. It's like reading the Game of Thrones books, then bitching that the HBO show is too predictable.

Imagine a world where dirtsheets didn't exist. Sting's debut last month alone would've had all the smarks jizzing in their pants. But because they knew he was signed and set to debut, Survivor Series wasn't so much "OMG STING!!!!!" as much as it was "Meh, they screwed his debut up" and "they could've used him sooooooo much better than that".

Case in point; Roman Reigns.
Reigns won the Rumble and was booed out of the building. Why? Because dirtsheets had been talking about Reigns v Lesnar for 3 months leading up to the event, and the smarks had plenty of time to watch Reigns' rise to the top. He looked strong on TV, sure. But the fans wouldn't have turned on him the way they did if they hadn't all read about the 'mania plans before RR. I do think there is a small portion of fans that legitimately don't like Reigns, but IMO the majority is middle aged men with nothing better to do on a daily basis than go online and rip on a show aimed primarily at 10 year olds.

If you think WWE is stale and you want to enjoy it, just stop reading dirtsheets. If you're a fan of old school/Attitude Era wrestling, watch it the old school/Attitude Era way, once a week with no spoilers. Plenty of people would've s*** all over Steve Austin and The Rock if their pushes to the top had been reported by 'news' sites months in advance.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

Man it's funny.....

I have BEEN saying this and everyone on here says I am an AZZHOLE because of it. I keep trying to remind the cool hipsters that the WWE is just entertainment. I can't understand why people who feel the product is sooooooooo bad would keep tuning in WEEKLY AND SPENDING THEIR MONEY just to say how much they dislike it. I swear that is the equivalent of going to a restaurant that serves sushi only and complaining because they don't have steak or better yet ordering something off the menu saying it sucks and them buying the exact same combo the very next and being made that it tastes the same.

WHY?

Then they go to the shows and like I keep saying GROWN MEN are ruining the shows for little kids who are truly there for the right reasons. To these kids John Cena is a hero and there these grown Men are talking trash about him and Roman Reigns.

These are the same fans who begged for Bray Wyatt to get a shot, called him Husky Harris in his debut, and now talk about he specks and his character is stale.

Anybody remember Zack Ryder? His IWC fans don't once he got a push.

Oh and the CM Punk chants are now just plain stupid. He has been gone for a year and he is a UFC fighter. Whether he is good or not doesn't matter. If you guys are his fans PAY to see him fight and chant CM PUNK all night long, but they won't because honestly they don't really like Punk. They just like the chant because then they feel cool. It's really sad and I wish something could be done for the poor people who paid their money and cannot enjoy the shows.

Oh and before you lames say well they paid their money they can do whatever.

NOT TRUE.

By a ticket to the movies and talk and scream all over the film and let someone tell the ushers......

YOU ARE OUTTA THERE!!!!

I wish it was the same at arenas

 

[George Steele's Barber]

WWE does shows not just at different times but also at different locations sometimes hundreds, if not thousands of miles apart from the previous show. And here is the big part, the people in the audience are mostly different from the people at the previous show. These different people spend lots of money and their time to attend these events. Do you really think they don't like professional wrestling? Is it possible that one guy who gets cheered one year in one location in front of one group of fans may not have the same level of popularity a year later in a different place in front of different fans?

Yes, some of these people are assholes and some take it too far but to suggest that people spend their time and money to shit on a product they don't like is absurd. It isn't like they are booing the whole time the show is on. For crying out loud, look at all the people that come from Europe for Mania and the Raw after. They go to a ton of effort to go to these shows and they hijack them more than any other crowd year round. Are you telling me they don't like wrestling?

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

By a ticket to the movies and talk and scream all over the film and let someone tell the ushers......

YOU ARE OUTTA THERE!!!!

I wish it was the same at arenas

Wait.

Fans at WWE shows should be silent?

Anything that you said prior to this is irrelevant because you made it clear that you can't be taken seriously.

You basically sound like a parody of someone railing against "hijackers".

As for these stereotypes of "acne-infested" virgins or whatever, let me get this straight.

The 25 year old guy who chants "Daniel Bryan" when Daniel Bryan is not in the ring is a weirdo, but the the guy who does "You can't see me" along with Cena and is fully invested in every storyline fed to them is "cool" or something? What about the guy who stands there with arms crossed, muttering under his breath about these "hijackers" who have ruined his experience by chanting irrelevant things during matches? Well that just sounds like someone who shouldn't go to wrestling shows.

Attributing negative physical/mental characteristics to people based on whether or what they chant at a wrestling show is just as bad as when non-wrestling fans do the same to ALL OF US simply because we ARE wrestling fans.

 

[John McCass]

I thought they wanted their favourites to be pushed, plain and simple. But that's not the case: they just want to resist anything WWE gives them. They didn't want Daniel Bryan, they wanted to cheer Daniel Bryan because WWE didn't think he was the guy (Bryan has genuine supporters, don't get me wrong). When WWE willingly gave Bryan some shine this year, this agonized section of fans started booing him and chanting "turd". Hey, last year they apparently wanted Reigns to win the Rumble. DEAFENING "Roman Reigns" chants rung out, and he was cheered overwhelmingly when gaining the upper hand on Batista. This year, Reigns gets the win, but because WWE are behind him, the agonized white male rebels. Then there's the "CM Punk" chants AT, not for, AJ. It's not any expression of support, it's just "LOLZ, WE KNOW", as well as an effort to piss off the company.

So, do these hi-jacker people actually want anything from WWE? Are they just nihilists trying to destroy WWE because the world - especially the pretty girl in high school - never wanted them? Okay, I'm being a little facetious, but there's a very serious question as to whether or not these hi-jackers truly like anything.

One thing is that last year they were not chanting for Roman Reigns but, they were chanting for anyone but Batista. Last year, they were rooting for Daniel Bryan. And people have yet not turned on Bryan, you can already see how much reaction he garners when he enters the arena. Chanting "Michael Cole" in Sheamus-Orton match doesn't mean Michael Cole should be the World Heavyweight Champion. They turn on the match if they don't get what they want. This year was not the same, instead of Daniel Bryan, they were also rooting for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose. Chanting 'CM Punk' to show negativity is now a tradition just like "Lets go Cena/Cena sucks" is. They know that CM Punk can't save them from the torture they are recieving. While I agree with you that rooting for only one guy is selfishness, they should let other guys shine also. The points you noted are somewhat good. The hi-jackers seem to be morons and they should stop this trend.

 

[Navi]

Oh and before you lames say well they paid their money they can do whatever.

NOT TRUE.

By a ticket to the movies and talk and scream all over the film and let someone tell the ushers......

YOU ARE OUTTA THERE!!!!

I wish it was the same at arenas

I really can't imagine going to a WWE event, or watching one on TV where the crowd just sits there. Can you? No signs, no reaction, no nothing. I'm sure the WWE wouldn't be very happy as they are playing to a live crowd.

It would be a very interesting experiment don't you think. As a matter of fact let's start at Mania this year in that case. A stadium full of almost 75 thousand people just sitting there like dummies, not saying a damm word. No cheers or boo's when wrestlers are announced. Heyman comes out delivers a great promo and then dead silence. The worst thing a wrestler can get is silence, it's like a comic telling jokes and no one laughing.

After the Rumble, Roman Reigns gave an interview and this is part in parcel of what he said. He made a comment that the fans paid money to see the show, and they have the right to cheer or boo, whatever they want. As long as he's getting a reaction he's going to keep doing what he's doing. If fans want him gone then stay silent.

These wrestler's feed off the energy of the crowd, why would you take that away from them is beyond me. I can't think that McMahon would be thrilled to spend millions of dollars on a spectacle that get 0 response. But I would love to see it happen just to prove you wrong.

 

[SoulTrain4]

Guys wrestle in front of silent Japanese crowds all the time. They clap when things go well and the react accordingly, they cheer and boo an the chants are directed at the guys involved.

In the United States this problem of chanting "what" and "boring", or "CM Punk" or "change the channel" exists.

A crowd can be a crowd an not be distracting. You can be engaged without trying to be controlling.

Last time NJPW came to the States some ******** started a "Let's go Goku" chant at Tanahashi. That's both racist and uncalled for.

These crowds nowadays are full of people who want attention on themselves and like I said they want to try and control everything. Instead most times they look like goofballs, like the idiots who chant "this is awesome" before the bell rings and neither guy has even made contact with the other one.

GTFOH. These crowds are out of control.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

Wait.

Fans at WWE shows should be silent?

Anything that you said prior to this is irrelevant because you made it clear that you can't be taken seriously.

You basically sound like a parody of someone railing against "hijackers".

As for these stereotypes of "acne-infested" virgins or whatever, let me get this straight.

The 25 year old guy who chants "Daniel Bryan" when Daniel Bryan is not in the ring is a weirdo, but the the guy who does "You can't see me" along with Cena and is fully invested in every storyline fed to them is "cool" or something? What about the guy who stands there with arms crossed, muttering under his breath about these "hijackers" who have ruined his experience by chanting irrelevant things during matches? Well that just sounds like someone who shouldn't go to wrestling shows.

Attributing negative physical/mental characteristics to people based on whether or what they chant at a wrestling show is just as bad as when non-wrestling fans do the same to ALL OF US simply because we ARE wrestling fans.

See comments like this is why I talk down to most of you BYTCHES here.....

I NEVER SAID THAT FANS SHOULD NOT CHEER, BOO OR ENJOY THE SHOW.....

I said that they purposely shouldn't try to RUIN it for others. You can go to a Clippers game and root for or against the home team yet let you and 20 of your friends sit behind the commentators booth chanting WE WANT STERLING and see if they don't THROW YOUR BYTCH ASS UP OUT OF THERE!!!

There is a difference between speaking and DELIBERATELY trying to be a D1CK....

Like chanting CM PUNK a year later at events. He is not there. He is not on the roster. You know where he is. GO THERE AND CHANT FIR HIM.

Like I said I am not a Miley Cyrus fan but I cannot imagine Me and 30 of my friends all buying tickets to her concert and screaming " WE WANT JAY Z" the entire night knowing Jay was in NY and the concert was in Houston

That is stupid, rude and disrespectful. I have stood by the same stance.

YOU GROWN ASS MEN WHO GO TO THE LIVE SHOWS WITH THE SOLE INTENTION OF BEING FU€K BOYS SHOULD JUST STAY HOME AND LET THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY ENJOY THE SHOW WATCH IT WITHOUT IMPEDIMENT!!!!!

 

[#1druid]

I'm sure that there's some disillusioned attitude era fans who for some reason still watch and are never happy but for the most part "hijackers" have a specific goal as far as the message they're supposed to be sending. For these last two rumbles it's been the mistreatment of Daniel Bryan. First his omission, then his rather lackluster elimination that seemed rather disrespectful, to both him and his fans. Had he won they wouldn't have hijacked.The WWE brought back Daniel Bryan leading into the rumble, gave him the only rumble based storyline, made him fight for the spot and win, and then eliminated him like a chump. They got people's hopes up for no reason. They also eliminated Mizdow, Ambrose, Wyatt, and Ziggler like chumps who were all loved by the crowd. The WWE knew exactly what it was doing, they brought The Rock in to try and mitigate the disaster. Would it have been unreasonable for Daniel Bryan to win? No as he was super over, had this been over zach rider I would agree with you.
The attitudes of these fans are similar to the synchronization from Assassin's creed. They're along for the ride, suspending their disbelief until something they take as a disrespect to them, their taste, or their favorites and then they're desychronized and stark raving mad. CM Punk for the most part is a rallying cry of dissatisfaction more than it is an actual chant for CM Punk.

 

[FromGlasgow]

I still can't see why someone that will boo Roman Reigns is a hijacker?
So basically if anyone doesn't like and cheer the exact same wrestlers you or the IWC do then they must be a lowlife hijacker? Pay your hard earned money you should be able to boo or cheer whoever you want if you attend a live wrestling event not just who the WWE or IWC demand you cheer, Kind of surprised the amount of comments agreeing with original message as its still a free country, I prefer to choose on my own accord who my favourites will be to watch and I wont stop and didn't stop watching because someone like Cena or Orton was the champion who I was never really a fan of.
I think its more than likely Roman Reigns will be booed at wrestlemania and I guess most fans will see it as booing the outcome but you will see it as hijacking the outcome.

 

[Dave]

I don't think that you can tat everyone with the same brush, thinking that it is some community that votes on who they like and don't like or something. The fact of the matter is that everyone is entitled to their opinion and no two opinions that are going to be exact same. Sure, there seems to be a few similarities in what the hijackers like, and more importantly don't like. Whether that is Roman Reigns, John Cena or anything else the WWE are trying to push, there does seem to be a trend there.

As far as of they actually want anything from the WWE, I don't think they'll ever be appeased. The way wrestling works stands directly in the way of what the fans want now. People like you and I can watch the show and just enjoy what is happening. We might not agree with every decision that the WWE makes but we are not going to damn everything before we get the chance to see how it works out. We understand that the WWE has to create new stars. And should what WWE want something that we don't, then we'll talk it through and hope that it changes. But to purposefully ruin other people's experience at the show, and your own, it's pathetic. Why pay your money to watch something you don't like? And of course you can have your opinion but it really is the most selfish thing you can do as a wrestling fan.

 

[BestWrestlingOpinions]

MitB 2011. Chicago. One of the biggest matches in the history with maybe the most hyped up arena of the past 10 years. Smarks were in the crowd, but they all wanted Punk to win. People are not idiots. They don't just go to a show just to piss others off and complain. No one is that stupid. Ok, some might be, but what? 0.5% of the crowd? 1%? Nothing more than that.

People try to hijack shows, shows close to WM even more, because they see what's going on. Most of us want a certain guy who pays his dues and entertains us better than the handpicked guy, but he doesn't get pushed. Isn't that injustice? Isn't that spitting in our faces? That's how we respond.

 

[FromGlasgow]

This topic is insane,
You will like Roman Reigns!!, You will cheer for him at Wrestlemania!!, You will buy his merchandise!!, You will discuss him in a positive manner!!, You want Roman Reigns to be your new world champion!!.
If not you are a hijacker with no friends, ugly to all women and a complete failure in life.
The way I see it in this topic you have 2 choices your either a diehard Roman Reigns fan who will cheer for him like you have never cheered before or your one of those the nasty evil hijackers that probably ultimately want to take over the world and bring misery to all.
This gets way too serious its a wrestling show just enjoy it and boo or cheer whoever you want at wrestlemania like it always has been. Personally I think the problem wrestling fans are the ones who tell us who we must boo or cheer, John Cena got booed more than anyone which never ruined anything he done, So get over it.

 

[Messiah]

The hi-jackers mean nothing, why do people keep bringing them up?.. They rarely hi-jack the show nowadays anyway. It only really happened last year when Daniel Bryan didn't win the Royal Rumble.. If you call booing Roman Reigns or chanting CM Punk hi-jacking the show, then you got bigger problems to worry about.. They only chant CM Punk because AJ is so damn boring and Reigns got booed at the Rumble and that's it, there's been no hi-jacking as of late.

 

[Michael J. Fox]

The fans didn't want Reigns to win the Rumble, they especially wanted Batista to lose. Once it was known Bryan wasn't in the Rumble, most fans knew Batista would win. Which is why they wanted to see Reigns.

The fans who "hijack" crowds chant JBL and Coles name during a match that has nothing to do with them. That's for the shits and giggles, especially if you're in a city where crowds are notorious for it. Fans who actually react with cheers or boos towards a storyline most likely know the outcome and disapprove. We have the ability to determine the outcome. There is literally no more anticipated thrill in wrestling today; if one learned on a Wednesday their guy is losing on Sunday, they may not look forward to Sunday's event. Fans are starting to voice their opinions strongly.

Nothing wrong with wanting to see your favorite star succeed. Nothing wrong with calling out bullshit when you smell it, you'll be thankful when the stench is gone.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

I remember at King of the Ring 1995 when fans were chanting "ECW" so hijacking crowds aren't a new thing.

But this is the nature of the industry, you need the crowd to get involved into the product. If you can't do that then something isn't right.

People talk about how fans booed the Cena/Orton match at the Royal Rumble last year, fans were chanting "we want divas". The crowd didn't just do that to be d***s or a-holes they did because they were saying they were tired of Orton vs. Cena feud over the past 7 years and it's become really stale. It's a message that needed to be sent.