Did the WWE drop the ball with Legacy

[thachozenonebx]

I will admit I am a mark for stables. When they first formed the Legacy I saw a lot of potential with this group, but it has fallen way short in my book. The group would have been more dynamic with a McMahon in the faction. And what about Scott Armstrong acting as a rogue ref (ala the NWO ref).

Am i the only one who thinks the WWE missed the boat with this faction?

 

[JayMiine]

I dont think so. I feel WWE pushed them enough. Legacy had a great feud with DX and have recently fallen off the page, but they were strong. Ted and Cody were right last night saying they were a major factor in Orton's WWE title reigns. Legacy was a good stable. And now we all know the face turns are coming so now it will build another 2 superstars(hopefully). Ted vs Orton should be good. In my opinion WWE did this correctly. They werent the type for the rogue Nick Patrick-esqe referee. And a McMahon might have been something different, but Orton was the leader and Shane or Steph would have stolen that spotlight most likely. WWE did a good job with this, especially since it has been the first actual group/stable in a few years.

 

[baldjedi]

They completely dropped the ball with Legacy. Both Rhodes and Dibiase didn't win a thing while with Legacy. The only title they won was without Orton. Their feuds really didn't put them over much and every time they were getting a push they would start losing or disappear. If either Dibiase or Rhodes could win gold Legacy would garner interest. A great way to mess with Legacy is if one of them one the title because it would drive Orton nuts. Legacy could have imploded while continuing interest with the group. Most of us are ready for them to split and move on, me included.

 

[rayisawesomeness]

In some cases, yes, and in some cases, no. They're feud with DX turned out to be one of the best feuds of the year and it got them over big time, especially when they made Michaels submit at Breaking Point. Hell, even their losses at Summerslam & Hell in a Cell were beneficial. The only problem was that they were really Orton's bitches. I mean, 90 percent of everything they did revolved around Orton and unlike Evolution, there were times were they just looked like they were there to help out the leader and do nothing else.

 

[Rated TKE]

i think they did drop the ball on the one yard line right before the end zone in the super bowl. legacy could of been as great as evolution, all they had to do was make them powerful. at one point they all should of held gold. when jermey piven guest hosted raw and orton had all those lumber jacks with him he looked powerful, legacy should of grown not like nwo but like dx, at least 5 people should of been in legacy, orton wwe title, dibiase rhodes tag gold, carlito/jesse or another 2nd 3rd generation star for the Us title, and natalaya for the womens title.

 

[VintageWWE]

I think they did drop the ball. I am a huge fan of stables and when Legacy first formed I was quite excited. However the stable didn't really work out the way I hoped. I wanted to see a new Evolution but that didn't happen. I thought Orton would provide a pretty good push for DiBiase and Rhodes but again that didn't happen. The two of them didn't achieve much success while Orton won the WWE title 3 times not to mention the Royal Rumble as well. I thought the stable further elevated Orton as Raw's top heel and did nothing for DiBiase and Rhodes. I for one would still like to see Legacy together with the two of them winning the unified tag team titles more than a DiBiase face turn. One would have to wonder where that would leave Rhodes. I still think Legacy can live up to Evolution if only WWE would decide to keep them together or break them up and stop hinting at the groups separation every week. It's about time Legacy holds the unified tag team title. I think that would be a better push than turning either DiBiase or Rhodes face.

 

[Dagger Dias]

In some ways WWE did drop the ball with Legacy, but in other ways they didn't. They have done an alright job although I'm a little disappointed that this group did not live up to the expectations that I had for it. It would have been cool if they had a couple of more members and all of them held titles.

Orton would have had the WWE title, Rhodes and Dibiase would have had the tag team titles, I also thought it would have been cool if Natalya was in there and had the Divas title and one more member could be there too and have had the US title.

It's been a decent group though and I think that they haven't dropped the ball ENTIRELY yet because both Rhodes and Dibiase have improved a lot now compared to when they first got together as "Team Priceless". When Legacy began those two guys were still just tag teamers, now they are potential main eventers. Legacy has been good for them, whether it lived up to fans expectations or not.

 

[jayteeERA]

Well I think ppl were expecting legacy to be more like evolution. But legacy has done nothing to get there. Cody & Ted didn't go out and explore into singles fueds. Orton was the only one. Only thing Ted & Cody done was battling with DX & helped Orton out in his matches. I would have love to see Cody feud with HBK & Ted feud with HHH on a PPV. But with all these gimmick PPVs there wasn't any possible way. Now you are gonna have Ted face turn and he might feud with Orton at Wrestlemania. I think legacy should do a bit more b4 splitting up.

Did WWE drop the ball with legacy? Yes and no. With Orton no he had all the credit in the world. Ted & Cody yes.... they developed but they could use a little bit more b4 going their separate way.

 

[Tyler44]

Well I think they pretty much overall did nothing with Legacy. The individuals in Legacy (Rhodes and DiBiase, I'm not including Orton) have done pretty much nothing on their own and also nothing together in matches. Honestly, I could probably count on one hand of mine how many matches they have actually won together, or separately (that's an exaggeration for all you technical followers). Every week it is the same pattern with them and it follows about 4 different paths. They either do absolutely nothing, interfere in Orton's match, actually wrestle a match and lose, or foreshadow breaking up soon (either threatening if they lose or just they just argue). When Legacy comes out, I get really frustrated, but not because they are heels and doing their jobs properly, I just know I'm about to watch around 10 minutes of nothing. It is kind of similar to when JBL would come out, everyone would just sigh and moan whenever they saw him just because he is completely boring and attracts no interest to watch.

So my answer to your question is yes, WWE dropped the ball with Legacy if their even was a ball to begin with. Not once did the 2 younger members of Legacy ever look good, except for 1 instance: when they beat DX on a ppv. But what happened after they were given this gigantic win? Nothing. Whenever hope comes apparent in this stable, nothing will happen. I still hope for Legacy to become something because I'm a fan of successful stables, but in the LONG time they have been together, the opportunity to do something successful with them has diminished and it is only a matter of time DiBiase will be a face and this Legacy stable will end with absolutely nothing accomplished. It is sad that DiBiase will eventually be "put over" by facing Orton, when he really has done nothing else.

 

[Blue Chipper]

I will admit I am a mark for stables. When they first formed the Legacy I saw a lot of potential with this group, but it has fallen way short in my book.

How have they fallen short? They are doing what they are supposed to.

The group would have been more dynamic with a McMahon in the faction. And what about Scott Armstrong acting as a rogue ref (ala the NWO ref).

That would just diminish the credibility of the stable, since the stable's sole assemblage was based on the superstars being second generation wrestlers. Anymore wrestlers, especially those that don't even fit the stable credentials, would bog down the Legacy, because they aren't needed.

Am i the only one who thinks the WWE missed the boat with this faction?

I'm sure you're not, but the Legacy is doing exactly what they're supposed to.

The Legacy is functioning where I predicted they would. They can be pretty interesting, at times, and I think they're doing a fairly good job. I don't think they were created to be another Evolution, and they're doing good in their own right.

 

[Toroc102]

Ehh, I never thought Legacy was going to go the way of Evolution in the first place. I mentioned this on the Raw thread, to me Evolution(Batista and Orton), we're more on HHH's level throughout their whole run, while Rhodes and Dibiase seem(and look)like Orton's little brothers. the way he talks to them, he doesn't really respect them but he's kind've protective of them, has a certain expectation of them.

Legacy still isn't over, so far, if they were planning on breaking them up next week, yes I would say it was a disspointment, they'd be far from Main-Eventers and really would have gotten nothing out of the whole thing. Depending on how the rest of the stable goes though, I could see it being even better than Evolutions break up.

If things go as planned, and Dibiase turns face, I really think that would actually be the worst way to go. For one thing, I kind've like Rhodes better than Dibiase. Aside from being smaller, I think he has a better look, I like his in-ring work better, and I think he's better than Dibiase on the Mic. I kind've see Dibiase as a goof, kind've has a weird build, goofy absent look on his face, has a goofy way of talking, not that I don't like him, just in more of a mid-card kind've a way.

I think the worst part of this thing is that they all make much better heels than faces. I mean we know that Rhodes and Orton do, I guess thats why there's talk of DiBiase being the one to turn face, but if its only him, then what? Does Rhodes stay with Orton as his lacky? This is why I think this is pretty interesting, since its a tag-team and its only a 3 member stable, you kick one of the guys out, what do you do with the other? Wouldn't do him any favors as Orton's pushover and he certainly wouldn't be tagging with him.

If turning Orton face were an option(and I don't think it is), I think that would be the best way out for Legacy, by them turning on him.

The best viable option for both of them that I could think of though, would be for Orton to sneakily get them drafted to another Brand, and let them go on a revenge tour there, do a storyline where they get to get back on Raw if they kick ass for the next 6 months or so. Maybe even do a storyline where they steal his gimmicks such as Legend Killers and Punting people on their way back to him, thus they could also remain heels. Then when they got back they could play revenge heels and he could play the cowardly one, similar to what HHH did when Batista finally got to him. Anyhow, I'm thinking too much, but, Legacy is definately not a definate failure. It will all depend on how it ends, and we don't know how its going to end, hopefully well.

 

[KBeef]

I agree with all the post previous, but I believe that if/when Dibiase turns face,

This could work by adding another member to replace him as the 4 Horsemen would've done.

As in reviving Carlito or another 2nd or 3rd Generation wrestler that could replace Ted and keep the Legacy Alive.

Ted could go face and fight the New legacy and build his status as he fights to get to Orton but keeps finding obstacles in the New Legacy.

Just an Idea, Time will tell how this goes.

P.S Beefcake will Pin Styles Clean (wait for it in the new TNA)

 

[Brady12]

The build up towards the faction was amazing. It was hinted for months that Priceless would join Orton, but not until the rising stars proved themselves first. When it finally happened, it felt like the good old days when factions had real power.

However, unlike real legendary stables, it didn't last long. Trouble between Orton and DiBiase started to take root in the summer and now it looks like the group is going to break up.

WWE should have had Rhodes and DiBiase win the Unified Tag Team titles back in June instead of Jericho and Edge. With Orton being the WWE Champion, it would have been classic.

 

[JBK2008]

Legacy was good and bad at different points. Rhodes/DiBiase helped Orton become WWE Champion 3 different times, yet never held the Tag Team Titles nor did either man have a United States Championship reign. Rhodes/DiBiase were in a great feud with DX, but then dropped off the face of the Earth it seemed until now.

There's been friction on and off between the members, especially with Ted and Randy, which hopefully will lead to a good feud between these two. I hope Cody follows Ted and they can still be somewhat of a team. I'm not saying they need another tag team title run, but it would be nice for them. Overall I give them a B.

Oh also, the WWE didn't drop the ball with Legacy. More like let it slip, but kinda let it bounce of the wall before catching it.

 

[KKarvox]

I agree somewhat, and the reason is that WWE consistantly pushes and then Buries them, like they have Creative ADD. At first they dropped the ball, making them the lackeys of Orton, who just come out to get they're asses kicked, or save Orton's. The they fued with DX, making them look fantastic. What they should have done was follow that up with a feud with Jerishow, and gave them the Titles instead of giving them to DX. DX doesn't need the tag-titles, they both are the two most decorated superstars on Raw, the Tag Titles don't mean a thing to them in the grand scheme of things. Then the other night, they got back on track, and put both members over big against bourne and mark henry. unfortunately, this is probably going to end with one turning on Orton and going solo, and the other will fall back to the mid-card, or get saddled with another partner. If they turn one face, i hope to god they turn them both face and keep Priceless together, because they are one of the few credible tag teams aroung right now.

 

[Doomsday Device]

What stuck with me since the beggining of Legacy up until today is just them saying "hey look at us, we're sons of legends so we're cool and we're going to dominate the industry" Whatever.

Legacy can never touch what Evolution did back then, We had Flair (the godfather of everything) Triple H (The Ruthless ambitious leader) and two dudes hungry to make it.

The last 12 months it feels like Orton needs Dibiase and Rhodes to get things done. And no one can say this makes Orton look stronger.

Its about time Legacy breaks up. Im tired of them walking down the ring half a mile per hour. Im especially interested how Rhodes will do as singles. And who he'll have fueds with.

 

[phlewfy]

Yes, the Legacy has been misused and mismanaged. WWE had an oppurtunity here to push a bunch of young talented wrestlers to the forefront of the company as ultra heels. Unfortunatley because of WWE creative, the Legacy became an almost laughable stable. I mean does anyone really take Rhodes or Dibiase seriously at this point? There was a chance here to create two badass heels (which the WWE needs) to throw into prime feuds with other WWE stars in desperate need of a facelift (MVP, Jack Swagger, etc...) The possibilites were limitless for this talented stable. WWE could have had a powerhouse stable with Orton as a long reigning champion supported by Dibiase and Rhodes as long reigning tag champs. Orton is the best heel in the company and I believe Dibiase and Rhodes are better as heels. If you put the straps on these guys for a prolonged period of time and let them hold onto them by lying and cheating, they would generate monster heat! You could have pumped up of all kinds other stars by having them chase the young, arrogant, and dirty Legacy. Yes, the more I think about it the more pissed off I get. The Legacy like so many other good wrestlers get dogged out by the WWE for Hornswaggle and Santino segments. What happend to the wrestling? What happend to wrestlers? What happend to the WWE?

 

[bighomie]

To a certain degree the WWE did drop the ball with The Legacy. Statistically the have 0 title wins besides Ortons 3 WWE titles, they've lost a lot more than they've won, and they just don't seem to have a consistent direction. However this faction has established 2 future top tier stars in Rhodes and DiBiase. They have participated in almost every main event feud this year in some way shape or form. That has to count for something. The break-up is gonna happen at some point so we'll have to deal with it but I see DiBiase going solo with Rhodes staying behind. Rhodes has been there from the beginning of the Legacy and in most cases has been the cooler head between DiBiase and Orton all while staying loyal to the leader. And if you noticed on RAW Orton seemed to be a lot more happier about Rhodes win than he was about DiBiase's. Overall in the months leading up to 'Mania we will get a clearer picture on if the WWE dropped the ball on The Leagcy or not.

 

[BigAdz]

Dropped the ball totally? No. Before Legacy, Rhodes and DiBiase were little blips on the radar. Now, they're up-and-coming young guns with their feet in the door and the world as their oysters.

Been far too inconsistent with wins and pushes? Definitely. One minute they're the tag champs and showing a great run of dominance in an otherwise lacklustre tag-team division, next week they're cannon fodder for DX.

It's been frustrating but they've been pushed forward enough to be able to carry the ball on their own, or at least apart from Orton when the Legacy split comes. Plus, Orton's had a great year having those guys running with him, so it's been a pretty good stable run for all involved.

 

[DL23]

I will admit I am a mark for stables. When they first formed the Legacy I saw a lot of potential with this group, but it has fallen way short in my book. The group would have been more dynamic with a McMahon in the faction. And what about Scott Armstrong acting as a rogue ref (ala the NWO ref).

Am i the only one who thinks the WWE missed the boat with this faction?

I concur, it's failed in my eyes.

I was stalking to a friend about this the other night who's a huge wrestling mark, and we agreed that around late 2008 when they'd recruited a few people, Manu/Sim, they should of tried to get a few more maybe (The Hart Dynisty) and Primo/Carlito and have done the eliminating the weak and keeping the strong with a match of Legacy against the guys kicked out at say Survivor series, with Legacy dominating to make them look stronger.

By the looks of things Ted will be pushed to the high hills, Cody I can see becoming a mid carder tagging along with Orton for the time being and feuding with Ted till Summerslam, before Orton and Cody face off in the summer.

WWE has become very pradictable lately I'd like to see a swerve like maybe Ted/Orton turn on Cody, you can see Orton looked more please that Cody won on RAW compared to Ted the seeds are planted.

 

[Doomsday Device]

I just think this whole Legacy thing didnt pan out good enough. To me it felt like Triple H did more with Batista and Orton than what Orton has done with Dibiase and Rhodes.
We have to also remember Evolution and Legacy are from 2 different eras, with perhaps different writers, now everything is more robotic and safe.

The idea to put these 3 together was good, I understand that, but nothing really happened. Whenever 1 of the 3 had a match you knew the other 2 were coming to intervene. We still have to see how the break up will turn out. I hope at least that will be good.

 

[brochester8]

During raw I expected Cody to loose and then Orton command Dibiase to beat down Cody and at that point I saw both Rhodes and Dibiase jumping Orton. This would lead to a good feud between them. I believe it will be Dibiase vs Orton at Wrestlemania but am curious as to what will happen to Rhodes. He has really gotten better over the past year. I can see Orton possible bringing another 2nd generation star from FCW like Henning, Rotundo, or Windham's kid.

With Brett Coming back I see Hart Dynasty being heels against a face Dibiase and Rhodes or the other way around as I feel that would be real good feud and would lead to future singles feuds in a few years.

There is no telling how this will go but I agree they could have been better if atleast for a few months all 3 Legacy member held the titles. That being WWE and tag titles.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't think that the WWE intended for Legacy to become a dominant stable in the WWE. I think that Legacy's long interaction with Orton was designed to help them become well known, establish them as legitimate competitors on Raw and provide a very slow build up in which at least one of them turns face.

Over the course of Legacy's existence, we've been given the image of two very young guys under the dominant leadership of another young man that has the resume and bearing of a veteran. Orton is a multi-time world champion and was even before Legacy was created. Spread out over several months, there have been various rough spots within the group in which they've seemed to be on the verge of splitting up only for things to go back to normal, typically via Orton's dominating personality inditimdating the younger, more inexperienced Legacy.

Last week on Raw was another little sliver of turbulence within Legacy. Things are being written in, I believe, that shows Legacy is starting to tire of Orton. After all, Rhodes and DiBiase were the tag champs for a long stretch of time and have been a key feature in Orton's WWE Championship reigns this year.

I'm betting that it'll be DiBiase that winds up leaving the group. DiBiase has starred in a WWE produced film, so Vince obviously has some big designs for him. Before the first half of 2010 is out, DiBiase will turn face and will begin feuding with Randy Orton.

 

[mooseman]

I agree with everyone else in that Legacy has not worked as I thought it would have. Last night they had an oppertunity to save it in my eyes and they didn't. It would have been perfect after the locker room segment where Orton threatened Priceless if they would have had a tag team match opposed to singles matches. During the match have The Hart Dynasty show up out of nowhere and beat down Priceless. Have Orton charge in from the back, Dynasty ditches the ring. Then as Dibiase begins to get up, POW! RKO. Dynasty replaces Priceless setting up a #1 contenders match at Royal RUmble. At the Rumble Cody turns on Dibiase with the reason he was more successful with Legacy. Priceless feuds through No Way Out. Legacy now has their heavyweight in Orton, tag team in Dynasty, US in Rhodes and use Natalya in the women's division. At Wrestlemania Hart Dynasty takes the tag gold from DX, Rhodes beats Kingston for the US title (he would win it from MIZ at some point) and Orton faces Dibiase. Thats just my opinion.

 

[The Sparks]

Legacy was productive. Orton has the best year of any superstar and part of that was because he used Dibiase and Rhodes the way he did which helped define him as a great heel. Did it do much for Dibiase and Rhodes, well it made them main-eventers at Summer Slam so that's better than the likes of MVP & Swagger so I would say it was a success for them. WWE didn't drop the ball and if they turn Dibiase face, it will work because there are 2 guys down at FCW that are just about ready to make it to the main roster than will fit right in with Legacy in the names of Joe Henning (Perfect Fit) and Brett Dibiase (From what I've seen he's almost ready). So Dibiase turns face after Joe Henning comes in and destroys him along with Randy and Cody, could be huge for a good fued and a star being born in Dibiase along with bringing Joe Henning to the spotlight also. Don't forget he's a better wrestler than his Dad and if he can learn the mic skills that Ted Sr. had, he's a future heavy weight champion. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm right, but I do think that Legacy has been a success and will continue to be in the future.