Destination X Thursday July 18 2013, on SpikeTV

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Destination X is back!

Dixie had this tweet last night.

Dixie Carter ‏@TNADixie

Destination X is back! Exclusively on @SpikeTV on July 18th from Louisville, KY! Tickets on sale tomorrow - http://impac.tw/1a8h9fY

what would/should happen?

would/should Chris Sabin cash in his newly won X division title for a chance to face the currently heavyweight champion Bully Ray?

would/should there be current non X division wrestlers in action? AJ Styles? Kurt Angle? Samoa Joe? Christopher Daniels? other?
 
Personally, I think Destination X shouldve been one of the PPV's they didn't cut, since the X Division is a cornerstone of TNA, or was at least. But a free PPV caliber event on television isn't a bad thing either.

I don't think Sabin is ready for a heavyweight championship match. He just recently came back from a long hiatus to win the X Division title and I'd like to see him have a longer run with it. The X Division needs him much more than the Heavyweight title picture.

I'd also love to see the X Division go back to not having any weight limits instead of this glorified cruiserweight division that it's been reduced to recently. Samoa Joe is one of the greatest X Division champions of all time, and according to the new weight restrictions, he can't even compete in the division anymore. The X Division should be open to anyone who can work that kind of match.

And since it's Destination X, and probably still a once a year thing, I'd like to see guys work some matches regardless of their current storylines. The night is about showcasing the X Division itself, not just furthering storylines. If they can do both at the same time, more power to them, but the priority should focus on the X Division, in my opinion.
 
-I think for some suspense if Sabin is still X Champ make people tune in for his decision at the event whether he will defend his title or go against the WHC
-My idea would be as Sabin announces what hes going to do Styles attacks him and points to his belt to set up the main event that evening
-I would like the event to be on a Saturday Night to make the event more special on tv instead of just another event on Thursday Night
 
Could TNA make this a three hour special? I would love for this to be more than a gimmick impact, so to speak. They have a good enough relationship with the network at the very least.

It seems a very quick time for it to happen in though. Sure, it's over a month away, but sabin JUST won the title. I think for everyones benefit, he's not cashing in. What a disaster it would be on a night built to celebrate the X-division, it would again be handed off and left unclaimed until a tournament fixes the problem.

Where does Sabin fit in the heavyweight title picture anyway. He's not beating Bully Ray, not with the current story going. Thats an honour for the winner of the BFG series. I say he keeps it. It's that or lose. Let them have a big X-division match. A full metal mayhem or somehing. It'll be a little close to the MITB matches in style but who cares, they are always fun.

What else should happen on the night? Depends how far they want to push things. If it was a PPV I'd go the extreme rules sort of route. Have matches that showcase what the x-division should be about. High risk matches. Throw some ladders around or something. Guys like Angle, AJ and Joe should definitely get to show off to. My only question is how to work this into the TV show. Is it an outstanding event, or do we continue our storylines? Maybe the gimmick matches can be part of the BFG?

Either way, I'm glad it's back. Should be a PPV, but i'll take what they give.
 
Sabin v Bully Ray for the world title would be a decent match. Of course they have history in from the tag-team division so the build will be fine. I don't see Sabin winning this especially a few months before the biggest PPV of the year. Indeed, I still it will be AJ V Bully Ray at Bound For Glory so I would like to see something meaningful of AJ.

They will bring back top stars from the past and the existing talent such as Daniels, Aries and Kazarian. I would love to see Kenny King get a big match against someone like Kurt Angle or Jeff Hardy. I think he is incredible and Destination X is the kinda event where TNA should mix up the roster entirely and try to show of different guys on the roster.
 
-I think for some suspense if Sabin is still X Champ make people tune in for his decision at the event whether he will defend his title or go against the WHC
-My idea would be as Sabin announces what hes going to do Styles attacks him and points to his belt to set up the main event that evening
-I would like the event to be on a Saturday Night to make the event more special on tv instead of just another event on Thursday Night

The problem with that is that if Sabin, or any other X Division Champion in the future for that matter, decides to defend the title rather than go after the TNA WHC, then the concept in and of itself means nothing. Even worse, it winds up making the X Division Champion look like a total punk. There's no real way to build up the suspense of Sabin's decision without himself or TNA in & of itself or the creative team looking look like total fools.

From a strictly kayfabe perspective, the idea of a mid-card champion purposely throwing away an opportunity to win the World Championship, thereby elevating himself to a whole other level in his career, is beyond ludicrous. From a "realistic" POV, one could attempt to argue that Sabin turning down the match in order to rebuild the prestige of the X Division & its title. However, there's no real meat to the argument because, as I alluded to, it defies any degree of logic in all of wrestling to turn down an opportunity at THE top spot. Sabin giving up the X Division Championship won't do the X Division any favors as the mid-card title scene, as a whole, will continue to be atrocious unless TNA's strategy towards it changes dramatically. But, that's the corner TNA has painted itself into.

As for what will happen on the show, I'm at the point where I almost couldn't care less unless some significant changes are made to the X Division between now and July 18. If the X Division remotely meant anything, I'd be more interested in this particular show. I highly doubt Sabin defeats Bully Ray. If he did come out winning it, however, I expect TNA to pull a Christian and put the title back on Ray within a matter of days. Aside from Sabin, there's no other reason to care about or invest in any of the X Division wrestlers. They're doing the best they can with what they've been given, so kudos for that, but it doesn't change that what they've been given simply isn't very much at all.
 
The problem with that is that if Sabin, or any other X Division Champion in the future for that matter, decides to defend the title rather than go after the TNA WHC, then the concept in and of itself means nothing. Even worse, it winds up making the X Division Champion look like a total punk. There's no real way to build up the suspense of Sabin's decision without himself or TNA in & of itself or the creative team looking look like total fools.

From a strictly kayfabe perspective, the idea of a mid-card champion purposely throwing away an opportunity to win the World Championship, thereby elevating himself to a whole other level in his career, is beyond ludicrous. From a "realistic" POV, one could attempt to argue that Sabin turning down the match in order to rebuild the prestige of the X Division & its title. However, there's no real meat to the argument because, as I alluded to, it defies any degree of logic in all of wrestling to turn down an opportunity at THE top spot. Sabin giving up the X Division Championship won't do the X Division any favors as the mid-card title scene, as a whole, will continue to be atrocious unless TNA's strategy towards it changes dramatically. But, that's the corner TNA has painted itself into.

As for what will happen on the show, I'm at the point where I almost couldn't care less unless some significant changes are made to the X Division between now and July 18. If the X Division remotely meant anything, I'd be more interested in this particular show. I highly doubt Sabin defeats Bully Ray. If he did come out winning it, however, I expect TNA to pull a Christian and put the title back on Ray within a matter of days. Aside from Sabin, there's no other reason to care about or invest in any of the X Division wrestlers. They're doing the best they can with what they've been given, so kudos for that, but it doesn't change that what they've been given simply isn't very much at all.

On the other hand, what better way to highlight how special the X-Division is, than to have its Champion deny a title shot for THE big one? This will show that Sabin loves the X_Division and its Championship so much that he won't risk it even if the next prize is technically bigger. This will elevate him in the eyes of some fans as a guy who really gives a damn, plus it's a smart move. Bully has destroyed everyone, including Sting, and Sabin is doomed to fail.

Keep throwing around words like "ludicrous" and "illogical", but the outcome I'm talking about is a realistic and a very cool option for Sabin. It can really define him as a character and as a person.

Good guys in literature as well as on the screen make similar decisions all the time. Sometimes they sacrifice millions of people in order to save their loved ones or vica versa. It seems incredibly logical for us that the hero will save a million people instead of two, but it all depends on what the hero values most.

If Chris Sabin feels the X-Division and the X-Division Championship is more important to HIM than the World Title (at least right now), it will make the X-Division seem like more of a big deal and Chris Sabin as a better Champion who will not abandon his division and his title. At the same time it won't devalue the importance of the World Title since we're smack dab in the middle of a tournament for it. It just shows what Sabin values most. It's the ultimate good guy move.

Will some think he's an idiot for doing it? Absolutely. But that's why this option is so much better. It's deeper than "Oh, cool, title shot". It'll help Sabin add that extra layer of personality to his character.

Personally, I hope he turns down the shot. It'll do more good to him than to go up against Ray, get beat and in the process vacate the Championship, throwing it in a state of flux. If the title is vacated two years in a roll it just hurts it that much more.
 
I think I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with Zeven.
if Sabin cashes in and gets a world heavyweight title shot against Bully, what is the most likely outcome? I think it would be an almost lock that Bully is going to win. TNA has been having this major story line feud with TNA vs Aces and Eights, and now you're also going to have Sting with his own team of MEM taking on Aces and Eights. it isn't going to make much sense to have the cruiser weight champion who isn't even in any of the major story line feud to be the one to take away the heavyweight title.

is there a match bigger than Ultimate X? Sabin just beat Kenny King (and Suicide) in an Ultimate X match at the last PPV. maybe if there is something bigger, Sabin can want that match, but one on one against King. does the X division do steel cage?

I think you NEED to have other non current X division wrestlers in action. I think right now the current X division is Sabin, King, Suicide, Petey Williams, Zema Ion (injured?), and a bunch of nobodies. not a whole lot of drawing power.

maybe TNA could throw in some BFG series qualifying matches, like Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels, and AJ Styles vs Austin Aries.

do Aces and Eights have an X division guy? maybe the closest would be Wes Brisco? Aces and Eights could complain about not having a match on this night. so maybe Hogan could put together Wes Brisco vs someone like Suicide.
 
-The reason why for my idea is first of all Sabin isn't going to be attacked and not want to defend his title against the person responsible
-I am not sure if ever at BFG if it has been Champ vs Champ and if not that would be a first especially if Styles gets redemption and wins the BFG Series
-Styles is the only logical choice to end Bully's title run
 
TNA really should've given more thought to how many PPV's they would host a year. The gap between Slammiversary and Bound For Glory is enormous and now that they noticed, they need to make it a TV special. Regardless, it's back on and Chris Sabin is more than likely going to go head to head with the World Champion for the first time ever. That's always a plus. Though it seems silly outside of the main event when there was already an X Division PPV in the year.
 
The main event has to be Sabin vs. Ray.

Last year, Austin Aries said "if you aren't here to be the World Heavyweight Champion, you should just pack your bags and go home." It really is that simple in this business. Either go for the top or don't bother. Chris Sabin would only look like a giant vagina who has no business wrestling ever if he doesn't go for it. How often do you get a title shot if you're Chris Sabin? You get it, you take it!

No storyline, no logic, nothing excuses a wrestler for not wanting to be the best. Sabin's going for the title.

Also, just do an Ultimate X match with 3 guys (that's the rule right?) for the vacant title. No tournament, just a match that TNA likes to use. None of this is complicated.
 

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