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Destination X: The Angle Alliance vs. Samoa Joe, Christian Cage & Kevin Nash

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Christian Cage, Kevin Nash & Samoa Joe vs. The Angle Alliance (Kurt Angle, Tomko & A.J. Styles)​

This match will be fine. But it's happened in various other situations a million times. That's why each PPV feels the same. Substitute Kevin Nash for Booker T and you have a whole other match, and potentially other intresting feuds.
 
Agreed with Jake. As much as I like to put on a positive spin on TNA, this match won't be anything we haven't seen a dozen times before. Yea, it'll be a fairly good match but in the context of what's gone before it, it'll be boring. I'm just waiting for a new title opponent to be honest - anyone seen Booker T lately? Why book him in to face Angle on iMPACT! when you can have a blockbuster, by TNA's standards, at the PPV. TNA've lost enough momentum as it is, they better use him while he's warm at least, otherwise he'll have all the impact of Test.
 
I'm not disagreeing that this same type of situation seems to happen about every 3rd month for T.N.A. Pay Per View Main Events, however to me that doesn't mean its a negative thing, or a bad thing. I mean, no offense but we see about a Hundred single's matches each year for Pay Per Views.. when you boil everything down to the match style, its just a one on one contest. So in the end, I like 6 Man Tag Team matches, because you can have more unique match-ups.

If you look at this from a standing point of view, you'll likely see Christian Cage v. Kurt Angle, Samoa Joe v. A.J. Styles and Kevin Nash v. Tomko. But if you truly look into it, we'll get the rare opportunity to see past and possibly future single's matches develop. Past in the likes of Joe v. Angle, and Future such as Cage v. Styles.

From a storyline standpoint, I hate that they turned Tomko back into a more or less "bodyguard" for Kurt Angle, when he truly seemed like he could've received a fairly decent single's push as his own man. I'm also still upset with how stupid they've made Styles look, when the man has more talent then any two individuals in this match. (except Joe)

I like that they're pushing Christian as a face, but the only thing that truly hurts this is Cage is more of a heel. Hes just got that cocky attitude about him, that makes him less believable as a face.

I'm a big fan of Kevin Nash, always truly have been. And I'm happy that hes getting the opportunity to work 6 Man Tag Team matches, because lets be honest.. the passed few times they've attempted working him in one-on-one matches, he's either hurt himself through his heart, or he's broken something in his body.

As far as Samoa Joe goes. I've never been a fan, I likely never will be. I just don't like him in general, hes got to much of a Bill Goldberg feel to him for me.. and I dispised Goldberg. Joe is far more talented, albeit, but hes still nothing but a prick to me. Joe just seems like the type of guy to believe he deserves the Main Event every show.

Finally, I'm looking forward to this match as I've said, for the multiple match-up possibilities.. but as far as anything tremendously great goes, I don't except it to be something we haven't seen a thousand times over already. But then again, I normally don't expect that for anything with any other regular Single's or Tag Team match anyways.
 
It's good to have a bit of variety in main events. But TNA only seems to defend their world title on about three quarters of their PPV's. That sounds like plenty, but a lot of the time it's in a tag match. And that stipulation is fucking stupid. Whoever makes the pin get's the title? Wank. That's how David Arquette got the ECW title. And people say Russo isn't doing much booking in that company.

And really. Since Angle's debut how many matches have him and Joe been in together on PPV? I was sick of it after their Iron Man. SWince then they must have had 5 more matches, in various different styles.
 
It's good to have a bit of variety in main events. But TNA only seems to defend their world title on about three quarters of their PPV's. That sounds like plenty, but a lot of the time it's in a tag match. And that stipulation is fucking stupid. Whoever makes the pin get's the title? Wank. That's how David Arquette got the ECW title. And people say Russo isn't doing much booking in that company.

Meh, I agree that the Tag Team/Heavyweight Championship matches are stupid. Its just like from time to time when the Tag Team Championships gets defended in single's matches. Whats the point.

However, why is everyone hard on Vince Russo? He may not always have great situations, but the man is a genius when it comes to several things, including storylines.

And really. Since Angle's debut how many matches have him and Joe been in together on PPV? I was sick of it after their Iron Man. SWince then they must have had 5 more matches, in various different styles.

I'll completely agree that Joe v. Angle has been ran into the ground, and unfortunately I forsee another feud for the Heavyweight Championship headed this way. I honestly don't think they put on tremendously great matches, especially when you see the two of them fighting everytime you turn around. Then again, maybe its just my opinion of how much I dislike Samoa Joe.

Personally, I don't want Joe in the Heavyweight Championship picture. I'd rather have Christian win the Championship back, or bring Booker T. up, or even someone else. A.J. Styles v. Kurt Angle, Robert Roode perhaps. Rhino, hell.. I'd even take Kevin Nash as World Champion over dealing with Samoa Joe even remotely carry the Championship.

And the sad thing is, sooner or later, Joe will win it.. thats the time in T.N.A. that I dread, because its going to suck as much as when The Great Khali was World Champion.. sure, Joe has far superior talent, but his overall gimmick and appeal are just as awful.
 
Joe should have got the title just after he'd lost the first few matches with Angle. They're too late with him now. He'll win it, and it'll be good. But not as good as it could have been.

Russo is shit Will. How come the quality of TNA has dipped since he became part of the company? I'd give anything to have the TNA of two years ago. The only positives I can give for the company are that the Women's division is pretty good, and iMPACT is never boring.
 
I'll completely agree that Joe v. Angle has been ran into the ground, and unfortunately I forsee another feud for the Heavyweight Championship headed this way. I honestly don't think they put on tremendously great matches, especially when you see the two of them fighting everytime you turn around. Then again, maybe its just my opinion of how much I dislike Samoa Joe.

Personally, I don't want Joe in the Heavyweight Championship picture. I'd rather have Christian win the Championship back, or bring Booker T. up, or even someone else. A.J. Styles v. Kurt Angle, Robert Roode perhaps. Rhino, hell.. I'd even take Kevin Nash as World Champion over dealing with Samoa Joe even remotely carry the Championship.

And the sad thing is, sooner or later, Joe will win it.. thats the time in T.N.A. that I dread, because its going to suck as much as when The Great Khali was World Champion.. sure, Joe has far superior talent, but his overall gimmick and appeal are just as awful.

What in the blue hell are you fucking talking about...yeah I guess it would be bad for them to try and actually put the belt on someone who could very well be the future of the fucking company(:rolleyes:), Joe is extremely talented and has had many many great matches through out his career, and when his time comes he'll make as good champion, he has everything needed to be a good champion, seriously why on earth would anyone want to put a title on Nash...the guy can barely walk, Roode is nowhere near ready and is a heel anyway so that would make no sense what so ever, from what I understand Booker just wants to help build up the young talent right now, Rhino & Christian would be good, though I think Joe would be a bigger draw than Rhino, Christian and Joe are probably about even, AJ vs. Angle would be a dream match but I would prefer they held it off for awhile, maybe save it for BFG...bottom line Joe would be an excellent choice for champion, and his title reign would be far better than Khali's, seeing has how his gimmick and appeal are by far better
 
It's good to have a bit of variety in main events. But TNA only seems to defend their world title on about three quarters of their PPV's. That sounds like plenty, but a lot of the time it's in a tag match. And that stipulation is fucking stupid. Whoever makes the pin get's the title? Wank. That's how David Arquette got the ECW title. And people say Russo isn't doing much booking in that company.

This match does little to inspire me about this pay per view. That's the point in a 6 man anyway? The main thing I've noticed on impact lately is that they've just been talking about Lockdown with Joe and Angle for the title. Isn't there sometihing better these guys could do? Maybe a tag title match against the guns or soemthing? As for the stipulation, I hadn't heard about that, are you positive that's for this match?
 
The only good thing which could come out of this match is either Styles vs Angle, or Christian vs Styles. Giving Joe the title now is pointless he's lost some of the reaction he was getting now, so what do TNA do? Give him the title- logical?!

Joe's gimmick isn't that bad at the moment, but they are trying to turn him into the Stone Cold like rule breaker, thats all well and good but they don't have a mega heel i.e. Vince Mcmahon for him to feud with, can you really see Jim Cornette as the new Vince Mcmahon? Seriously I would rather see Angle vs Joe at lockdown with Joe winning, than Cornette screwing Joe out of the title, which is where I am scared they are going with this.
 
After watching Impact I have changed my opinion about this match now, it will be a good. The main event and what happened after sold me. Christian vs Angle is always good, and AJ will produce some good spots. Nash sucks but they should just take him out of the match early. Joe and Cage will manage fine without him. Hopefully we should get a clean finish in this match for once, but i wouldn't hold your brethe.
 
A clean finish in a TNA main event? Don't be silly. I'm predicting only two ref bumps, and no interference which is a step in the right direction. One of the biggest problems I have with TNA is they frequently ruin great matches with shit finishes. Prime example being the BFG main event. It was Sting's best match in years, until all the duff finishes.
 
Its good that TNA trys something new like matches like these to headline PPVS but come on how many times we've seen this match its just another iMPACT match to be honest. They only reasons I can think of as to why TNA booked this match is one, to build Samoa Joe for his title run and credit him the win over Angle to establish the next contender, and the second reason is because maybe TNA will shock us here and perhaps do something big like have AJ turn on Angle because its going to happen sooner or later! Overall winners though will be the unlikely alliance!
 

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