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Could He Have Been A Paul Hey man Guy?

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6'3 + 270lbs + strength + speed + agility + wrestling ability + great look - mic skills = Bobby Lashley.

The dude had everything the WWE loves in a talent, and then some. He is one of the true men who can match up to Brock Lesnar had he stayed in the WWE with...Paul Heyman.

Do you think a long term pairing of Bobby Lashley and Paul Heyman would've taken Bobby to the next level? Could both men staying in the WWE have brought The Dominator to the level of The Beast Incarnate?

I think his recent run in TNA proves he could've been the next big thing. Also how awesome did that steel cage spot with Umaga look where Lashley brought a cage wall down onto Umaga?!
 
6'3 + 270lbs + strength + speed + agility + wrestling ability + great look - mic skills = Bobby Lashley.

The dude had everything the WWE loves in a talent, and then some. He is one of the true men who can match up to Brock Lesnar had he stayed in the WWE with...Paul Heyman.

Do you think a long term pairing of Bobby Lashley and Paul Heyman would've taken Bobby to the next level? Could both men staying in the WWE have brought The Dominator to the level of The Beast Incarnate?

I think his recent run in TNA proves he could've been the next big thing. Also how awesome did that steel cage spot with Umaga look where Lashley brought a cage wall down onto Umaga?!

I don't understand why everyone wants a cool athletic and strong guy to be a Paul Heyman guy if he doesn't have good mic skills? Can't the WWE produce some badass wrestlers who would talk less on the mic but devastate anything that's been put in their path?

There have been guys like Goldberg. He doesn't talk a lot but everyone knows he's a badass. Guys like him doesn't need to talk a lot. And WWE never produced guys like him after he left.

There should be at least one guy in the locker room who should be a total badass whom the fans should love and please don't bring up the name of Ryback!
 
Yea I have no idea why this let's pair him with Heyman always comes up. Heyman is brilliant on the mic, but he's not for everyone. Does Axle, and Cesaro ring a bell. Being with him didn't work for them. It works for Lesnar but wouldn't for Rollins or Reigns. Sometimes a wrestler has to stand on his own two feet.
 
I don't understand why everyone wants a cool athletic and strong guy to be a Paul Heyman guy if he doesn't have good mic skills? Can't the WWE produce some badass wrestlers who would talk less on the mic but devastate anything that's been put in their path?

There have been guys like Goldberg. He doesn't talk a lot but everyone knows he's a badass. Guys like him doesn't need to talk a lot. And WWE never produced guys like him after he left.

There should be at least one guy in the locker room who should be a total badass whom the fans should love and please don't bring up the name of Ryback!

I understand your point and think you're absolve right. Not everyone has to have a manager, specifically Paul Heyman.

My point isn't to pair all the big talented guys without promos skills with Paul.

Lets not bring Ryback, Rollins, Axel, Cesaro into the equation. I don't think any of them belong with Paul. I do however think Lashley does.

Its a simple formula..Brock left Paul so Paul eventually found his replacement. You don't have a whole plethora of other guys join Heyman, it is just Lashley and Lesnar.

I also think an eventual feud between Lesnar and Lashley with Paul stuck in between would've been awesome.
 
Meh. Shoulda, woulda, coulda as far as I'm concerned.

. Lashley is out the door and didn't have the passion to stay with the WWE. As far as I am concerned, Heyman is amongst the very best talkers in the business and should be used sparingly to protect that. And also to make it seem like the guy Heyman is with is the real deal. He's had a few misses as well as a few hits and the WWE would be better utilising Heyman with a bit of care quite frankly. As the OP pointed out, it seemed like Lashley had the credentials to go all the way but he chose something different. I wouldn't be surprised if the WWE knew that Lashley was on his way out and that's why they used him the way he did.

But at the end of the day, he left and a pairing with Heyman never happened, regardless of what would have been the result.
 
Honestly. I think the "Heyman" guy thing is getting out of control and I'm just about the biggest Paul E. supporter you'll ever find. The failures of both Axel and Cesaro as "Heyman guys" showed that it has nothing to do with the magic touch.

Heyman, like any manager in history, only amplifies his clients. If you put him with a turd you're going to end up with one helluva shiny turd. But a turd none the less. When you pair him with an able and dynamic figure like Punk or Lesnar it amplifies an already over and talented wrestler to larger than life dynamics.

Heyman is a hype-man, manager, advocate, and mouth piece all rolled into one. Lashley has no personality which is what sunk him. Not much Heyman can do about that. Brock on the other hand might not be an eloquent speaker but says more with body language and facial expressions than 85% of the roster.
 
Lashley had the talent and certainly the look to be successful as a Paul Heyman Guy. Lashley got himself over not talking. That kind of booking has been successful in the past like with The Crow Sting and Goldberg.

The problem with the whole recent Heyman Guy thing is the way they were booked after. WWE treated it like Heyman + wrestler X = heat. This formula doesn't work if the talent in question is booked poorly.

Axel was pushed into the Intercontinental title, but then he was fed to Punk. Axel's title wasn't even on the line in their PPV matches, which devalued the title as well as Axel as a credible opponent. They then forgot or gave up on Axel and added Ryback to the mix, again just to lose to Punk to further his feud with Heyman. Neither Axel nor Ryback could beat Punk, and Punk was bigger than Axel's title.

Heyman, in storyline, dropped Ryback and Axel for their inability to beat Punk. Ryback was a Heyman Guy for all of two maybe three months?

Then Cesaro was the next Heyman Guy in 2014. He went on to a massive losing streak. Cesaro went from looking at a massive face turn to staying heel and jobbing to the stars.

I think WWE's idea was that Heyman was such a heel magnet that his heat would transfer, but it was the booking that hurt the wrestlers in question. Axel should have been booked as a threat to Punk, but he was a speedbump with the IC title stuck on it for Punk to roll over. Ryback was little more than a bigger looking speedbump and also wasn't booked as a threat. They went on to job in the tag division.

Cesaro lost every PPV appearance in 2014 including multiple title challenges. Heyman and Cesaro's partnership was dissolved when Lesnar came to challenge for the WWE title. Why Cesaro wasn't used to further the Lesnar feud is beyond me, it made him look weak.

My point is anybody has the potential to be great when teamed with Heyman. He's one of the best all time heels on the stick in the business. It's hard to call him a great heel manager but that's due to the fact that all his clients were treated like weakling imbeciles. WWE creative seems to have this idea that losing draws heat (see Barrett, Bad News). It's all how the wrestler is booked, Heyman can only carry them so far on stick.
 
6'3 + 270lbs + strength + speed + agility + wrestling ability + great look - mic skills = Bobby Lashley.

The dude had everything the WWE loves in a talent, and then some. He is one of the true men who can match up to Brock Lesnar had he stayed in the WWE with...Paul Heyman.

Do you think a long term pairing of Bobby Lashley and Paul Heyman would've taken Bobby to the next level? Could both men staying in the WWE have brought The Dominator to the level of The Beast Incarnate?

I think his recent run in TNA proves he could've been the next big thing. Also how awesome did that steel cage spot with Umaga look where Lashley brought a cage wall down onto Umaga?!

He would have been nice. I'm surprised the WWE didn't do it. I wish Big E could have been a Heyman guy but they got him being all goofy and awkward with Kofi and Woods. He had potential.
 

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