Could A Stable Like "3 Count" Work Today?

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Okay so three count was a boy band like stable in WCW. It consisted of Shannon Moore, Greg Helms and Evan Karagis (sp) and Tank Abbot was their enforcer for a bit.

So I ask could a boy band like stable work today? If we were to have one who would you like to see in it? I personally think Trent Barreta, Curt Hawkins and Primo would be perfect for this role in todays time. They could then have someone like Titus O Neal, Brodus Clay or DH Smith as their Enforcer Id say Smith cause he is the least green of the rest.

I think Zack Ryder would be great in the stable but oif WWE continues to give him this TV time I'd put Primo in his place to get him on TV. SO do you think a stable like this could work today? Who would you have in it?
 
Sure why the hell not? The reason it will work is because Cena likes to support stupid shit like that.

In all seriousness the only people that would like it are the same ones for the most part that cheer Cena in the live crowd(kids and women). if it were to occure i can guarantee ill start switching the channel more often than i do presently during Raw and Smackdown.
 
Sure why the hell not? The reason it will work is because Cena likes to support stupid shit like that.

In all seriousness the only people that would like it are the same ones for the most part that cheer Cena in the live crowd(kids and women). if it were to occure i can guarantee ill start switching the channel more often than i do presently during Raw and Smackdown.


Well, the only way it could work was if they were a heel group like the orignal 3 count were and the younger fans will cheer and boo whoever VKM tells them to so i doubt they would get a positive reaction from them. Also it would annoy the older fans and possibly play off the hatred for teen idols like justin bieber that is rampant on the internet today. I think it could work....maybe.
 
It didn't work in WCW, when boy bands were all the rage, why in the world would it work now? The answer is no, it wouldn't work. It was a silly gimmick back then, and it would make even less sense today.
 
No, I don't think so. A good percent of WWE's fans are pre-teen boys. The same boys who hate their female classmates ogling over people like Justin Bieber or the Jonas Brothers.

Of course for that same reason they could be very successful as a heel group, but I definetly don't think so. Who would be able to fill that role anyways? John Cena? Kofi Kingston. You give me three heels who could successfully fill a working boy-band gimmick in the WWE, and maybe they could have a chance.

Even if they could, it wouldn't last long at all. It would be a waste of time, and just doesn't fit the environment World Wrestling Entertainment seems like today. I'd rather see the airtime for that be used for something more useful, like pushing deserving young stars into the main events.
 
To be honest, I think a group like this has a MUCH better chance of getting over with the current audience than it did in the late 1990s. Now, before you jump all over me ("no way", "3 Count sucked then, they'd suck now too", "how do you pronounce your username, anyway?" - LOL!), hear me out!

The major problem with this angle (when it was originally done) was timing. Just like Slyfox already mentioned, WCW tried this angle when "boy bands" were at their hottest (I hate the term "boy band", almost as much as I hate the term "tweener"...*shudder*...to be a "band", you HAVE TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS!! they're all "boy choirs", not bands. /rant).

Yes, "boy choirs" (LOL) were popular at the time, but wrestling fans and boy-choir fans were two COMPLETELY different demographics. IE: WCW fans in the late 1990s were mostly males, aged 7-30 (roughly, right?)...your average n*sync fans were female, aged 7-30 (again, roughly). To put it simply - the average wrestling fan didn't own a Backstreet Boys CD, and the average fan of this music wasn't buying tickets for wrestling events.

With "3 Count", I think WCW was trying to create their own "2 Cool" (was it "Too Cool"? ...can't remember). When the WWE (WWF) had the idea to put 2 Cool on TV, they must have known that they would be booed out of the building. I mean, come on...two white guys dancing like idiots, and dressed like "club rats"? They must have known that 2 Cool would be heels in the minds of their current audience.

If you remember correctly, 2 Cool was initially HATED by the fans until Rikishi joined them. The only reason those two ever got over, was because Rikishi started dancing with them (Scotty's "worm" finishing move helped too, I guess). Although 2 Cool (w/ Rikishi) got over, it must have happened almost completely by accident (and to the surprise of WWF management). When 2 Cool became popular, I think WCW got the idea that they could also trap this mid-card lightning in a bottle (LOL!). Without someone like Rikishi to help 3 Count get over, it just didn't work with the current wrestling demographic (which, in the late 90's, was mostly older males).

The reason why I think an angle like this would work better today, is because the audience is younger than it was 10/15 years ago. Yes, there are some "older" fans that still boo Cena & Mysterio, but there are a lot more kids & women cheering for those two in a WWE audience today.

If WWE tried doing something similar (but not exactly like) 3 Count, it could work now (I'm not saying it DEFINITELY would, but I think it's got a fighting chance). For example, they could have a group of wrestlers that were like the cast of "Glee" - or "High School Musical". In fact, I don't really know why they haven't tried capitalizing on something like this yet. I mean, those ideas (Glee, High School Musical, American Idol, etc) are so popular with the younger demographic that it would just be smart business.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't put any "established" wrestlers in the group (like the wrestlers that were already mentioned by the OP); I think an angle like this would work better for some up-and-comers from FCW that we haven't seen on WWE television yet. Let them skip NXT (or whatever), and show up on Smackdown or Raw with a gimmick like this...or maybe test the waters in FCW first, to see what their audience thinks of an angle like this. Might be worth trying, at least.

I don't know exactly what the details would/should be for an angle like this, or whether or not the current fans would accept them as heel or face (at least initially), but I think an angle like this would definitely get some new guys over. Okay...(phew)...now that you've read my two cents, feel free to attack me for my opinion(s)! LOL!
 
I don't think based on the timing it would work. Back when 3 Count were on WCW, boy bands were huge there was about 100 of them all over the radio ruining music. That being said I think a "Jersey" type group would work on the undercard. I have never thought a comedy faction should be used anywhere close to the main event level, thats why I never understood why Spirit Squad got pushed to the extint that they did.
 
Originally Posted by vthokie8
...I think a "Jersey" type group would work on the undercard.

I've thought about a "Jersey" group in WWE as well, but I think a lot of people would think it's a "Shore" (from TNA) rip-off. Whatever happened with them, anyway? They could have added at least one more person to that group...they worked well as heels, and the audience HATED them.

Originally Posted by vthokie8
I have never thought a comedy faction should be used anywhere close to the main event level, thats why I never understood why Spirit Squad got pushed to the extint that they did.

Right, I don't think anyone's expecting them to go after any titles higher than the Tag-Belts. I don't think 2 Cool or 3 Count achieved anything higher, either...unless you count the Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight Title(s) (which aren't around anymore anyway).

The Spirit Squad (I'm glad you brought them up, btw...I thought about them as well during this discussion) was similar. They never amounted to anything other than winning the tag-titles, and they were only around to give Shane & Vince a "group" to feud with the returning DX. I mean, they didn't do anything after DX was done with them, and rightfully so. It WAS, however, a way to get a few new guys on TV. The WWE ended up trying Kenny Dykstra (whatever they called him) on for size, but ultimately they weren't satisfied. They did end up giving Dolph Ziggler a chance, and look how great that turned out. Without the Spirit Squad, he might never have got his opportunity.
 
There is no reason that it would work. What would that story have to lean on today. Succesful bad guys are usually reflections of what people are steamed about at the time. Whenever there were wars brewing there were anti-american characters made. When wallstreet greed was making a mess JBL came along. Even the 4 horsmen reflected the much envied business executive types of the 80s. With the image of partisan politics that is being portrayed to the public from D.C., now would e a great time for a ignorant and petty management power struggle, because it would match what people are hot about in everyday life. If you read any fan post you can see that people are asking for it anyway. And it kinda seems like the current story is headed that way too... Hell, with all of the sports strikes, the story could lead to some sort threat of a talent walk out. They could have demands and let the fans vote online for what demands should be met. With all of the people with thier opinions nowadays, it would be like opening a play pin for them, as fans love being part of the show.... See, that's how heel ideas work. You find the hot spot and milk it the best way you can. Right now a boy band is not a hot spot and there is nowhere to go with it.
 
The hell would it work today when it didn't work whatsoever during a period of time in which boy bands were all the rage?

3 Count was a horrible idea, just plain horrible that was made all the worse by involving Tank Abbott, who might well be the single most overrated MMA fighter of all time, and was an even worse pro wrestler.

People igorantly bash WWE for being PG all the time. In the vast majority of cases, the bashing is pretty much irrelevant because it's usually been stuff like "Why doesn't WWE have blood in their matches?" or "Cena Sux" or what have you. However, a boy band faction would deservedly be universally hated.
 
Boy bands aren't as much of a hysteria now as they were then, but if you mean pop music spoof then definately. They kinda had a diva like that (Jillian Hall?) a few years ago. I think they should go all out with it. Have a wannabe rapper do his promos completely in autotune.
 
I think they should go all out with it. Have a wannabe rapper do his promos completely in autotune.

Not going to lie here, that would be hilarious. For like, 2 weeks anyway. Lulz.

But no, I don't think something like this would work. The last place you want to go hunting for ideas at is WCW circa 2000. They were good athletes, they put on like 3475395 decent opening matches with those Japanese guys, but the gimmick sucked ass. It'd go over about as well as the Spirit Squad. No males of any age want to see a boy band, let alone a boy band on their wrestling program.
 

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