Cop threatens to make evidence up

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/hol...make_up_evidence_after_arrest_of_innocent_men

I mentioned before how cops take advantage of their power all the time and this right hear is clear evidence

I just noticed this article and pretty much what happened on this night in Seattle was

Police got a call about assault the witness described the assailants were two African American males. John Lawson and Christopher Franklin were driving in the neighborhood when I guess the cops thought that any two African American males would do. The cops made a felony stop by standing out of the car behind the door with his gun drawn and Officer Brad Richardson never mentioned anything of the assault. The officer forcefully handled them and kicking John Lawson in the chest causing them to have bruises.

When Seattle Police Sergeant Sean Whitecomb saw the video he said that he investigated the complaint and exonerated the officer. There is no video of the actually arrest only the aftermath where the Officer Richardson admits to kicking Lawson in the chest and telling him his going to make evidence up. The two are now suing the Seattle Police Department for a violation of Public Records act. During the investigation they found out that police department have already lost tens of thousands dash cam videos.

There is no excuse to what that cop did, that's not protecting and serving that's bully and harassing. Was Officer Brad Richardson just doing his job?Who knows what kind of footage is on the other missing video the police seem to just mysteriously misplace?

 

[LSN80]

I mentioned before how cops take advantage of their power all the time and this right hear is clear evidence.

And as you are here, you were wrong that time too.

Me thinks you've had a run-in with the law or two yourself, didn't like the outcome, and now have a vendetta against cops. I'd say 99% of policemen are there to protect and serve. Just because crooked cops do exist doesn't mean the profession as a whole is crooked. Some doctors take advantage of their positions, so do judges, teachers, lawyers, and businessmen. On the whole, however, most people in high-profile professions such as law enforcement are in it for the right reasons.

Police got a call about assault the witness described the assailants were two African American males. John Lawson and Christopher Franklin were driving in the neighborhood when I guess the cops thought that any two African American males would do.

It's convenient how you left out the follow-up article, which included statements from the victim. You know, the one where she identified the two suspects as the attackers? But anything to make the cops look like the bad guys, right? So let's take a look at the follow-up, shall we?

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http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/hol...make_up_evidence_after_arrest_of_innocent_men
In response to this recent KOMO 4 segment, there are a few details from the original police report that the Seattle Police Department would like to emphasize. A redacted copy of the original police report is included as well.

1.The witness had just left her place of employment. She had car trouble, so she called a friend and co-worker who lived in the area.
2.While her co-worker, the victim, was on his way to help her, he was attacked in an alley. According to the victim, the two suspects hit him in the back of the head and the face and knocked him to the ground.
3.The victim got up and ran away. The witness saw him running into their workplace. She saw that he was hurt and bleeding. The victim told the witness that he had just been jumped in a nearby alley.
4.The witness went to that area to see if the suspects were still there and she saw two people leaving the area.
5.Officers responded to a 911 call of an assault.
6.When uniformed officers arrived they conducted an area search for the two suspects based on a description provided by the victim.
7.When officers attempted to contact the two suspects they ran away from them.
8.The two suspects were caught but force was used during the arrest. It was documented in accordance with Department policy.
9.The witness and the victim were transported to the arrest location. The victim positively identified the two suspects as the two people who had attacked him.
10.The witness said that she felt she was too far away from the suspects to positively identify them.
11.The two suspects were arrested and booked into King County Jail for misdemeanor assault based upon probable cause.
12.Officers requested charges to be filed.
Additional points that the Department considers noteworthy:

1.The Seattle Police Department’s Office of Professional Accountability (OPA), headed by a civilian director, investigated this matter completely. It was also reviewed by the civilian OPA Auditor, a second layer of oversight that is outside of the Department.
2.In response to the officer’s patrol car banter where he told the suspect that he would “make stuff up,” the Department agrees that it is inappropriate.
3.The Department asserts that nothing was made up and all necessary reports were completed.
4.Furthermore, officers can be and have been fired for lying – in this case, “making stuff up”. That was not the case here.
5.As of today, charges have not been filed because the assault victim did not wish to pursue this matter in court.

The cops made a felony stop by standing out of the car behind the door with his gun drawn and Officer Brad Richardson never mentioned anything of the assault. The officer forcefully handled them and kicking John Lawson in the chest causing them to have bruises.

Was it the face, or the chest? Because the same story reports both. You and they have the same thing in common: You grossly misinterpret things to suit your version of the truth. It doesn't matter if it's correct or not, as long as you make your statement, right?

When Seattle Police Sergeant Sean Whitecomb saw the video he said that he investigated the complaint and exonerated the officer.

Actually, had you bothered to mention this, or at least read the second article, you would see that Seattle's Office of Public Accountability investigated the claims of brutality, and the video. The group is run by a civilian, not the police force. They were the ones who found there to be no wrong-doing.

1.The Seattle Police Department’s Office of Professional Accountability (OPA), headed by a civilian director, investigated this matter completely. It was also reviewed by the civilian OPA Auditor, a second layer of oversight that is outside of the Department.

Again, you're making my point for me regarding your personal vendetta against cops.

Oh, and the claim that the Department exonerated the officer regarding "making stuff up"?

The witness and the victim were transported to the arrest location. The victim positively identified the two suspects as the two people who had attacked him.

I guess the victim is in on this big police conspiracy, eh?

In response to the officer’s patrol car banter where he told the suspect that he would “make stuff up,” the Department agrees that it is inappropriate.

As for the reason the men were arrested in the first place?

The witness and the victim were transported to the arrest location. The victim positively identified the two suspects as the two people who had attacked him.

There is no video of the actually arrest only the aftermath where the Officer Richardson admits to kicking Lawson in the chest and telling him his going to make evidence up. The two are now suing the Seattle Police Department for a violation of Public Records act.During the investigation they found out that police department have already lost tens of thousands dash cam videos.

No, they're not. It's Komo 4 Problem Solvers, the website that ran this story, who are suing the Police Department for a violation of Public Records act.

There is no excuse to what that cop did, that's not protecting and serving that's bully and harassing.

According to the police report, and the investigation conducted by a civilian committee, there was. The men ran away from the cops, according to the police report. The officers themselves documented that they used force. That generally happens when you run away from the police.

If this was simply a case of "he said, he said", I'd probably be suspicious as well. The loss of the dash.cam videos is disconcerting, no doubt. But the fact that the victim himself identified the two men as being the ones who attacked him makes much of what the men say happen seem far less true. They did nothing wrong, they said. Well, visual identification by the victim says otherwise, making these two men less then credible in any allegations they made.

 

[Davi323]

Someone grossly distorting the facts in order to suit his agenda? NO WAY.

LSN, if I hadn't just green repped you for the Youth being wasted on the Young thread, this post absolutely, guarandamnteed would have gotten it instead. Either way, you were getting green rep from me today, LOL

Todd, Generally, when someone posts a thread like this, there is always far more to the story than is being told. I am not going to accuse you of deliberately withholding the rest of it because it didn't suit your purposes, it's entirely possible that you merely saw the first story, reacted to it emotionally, and never bothered with the follow up. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, this time. But let LSN's response be a lesson to you: This is why it's usually a pretty good idea to follow up on things like that before posting, to avoid getting your ass handed to you by someone who did bother to do the follow up research. If you don't bother digging past the initial layer, get used to having posters like LSN who are FAR more skilled at constructing arguments than you deconstruct the shit out of your threads.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

The victim was attacked in a dark alley when someone hit him from behind and knocked him to the ground so I’m sure he didn’t get the best look at his attackers

I like when you say based on description all that was mention was two African American males in jeans and the cops simply found the first two that they could find and one of the two where was wearing white sweatpants when he was arrested

The same cop that said he was going to make stuff up said they ran when away when Lawson and Franklin both said as soon as the cops showed up they went right to the ground. I find it hard to believe the same officer who said that he was going to make stuff up and if you watch the video you hear the officer say to one of the two “I kicked you in the chest”

If you watch the video you can clearly to see the cops using force and there also missing most of the arrest. You can also hear the officer say he is going to make stuff up. He starts talking about robbery

Did you watch the video?

And what about all the other thousand missing dash cams what do you think they are trying to cover up?

Looking at your evidence shows no real credibility. The cops here were wrong like they are a lot of the other times

Cops do abuse their power all the time. You can pretty much get away with murder if you have a badge. What about the peaceful occupy wall street protestors who were peppered sprayed and shot with rubber bullet guns for sticking up for the cops. They even peppered sprayed a 82 year old women I bet you think she was a dangerous threat too. I don’t care if anyone here is a cop or has family who is a cop and I’m trying to say that they are bad people too. I’m just speaking the truth of what cops do on a daily basis.

Theres been times when I have dealt with a nice cop who let off the hook when I should have got a ticket and even arrested for one incident but at the same time I have had some bad experiences too. I’ve been harassed myself by the cops three times trying to get me to admit to something I didn’t do and they had no proof of me doing anything. I was once harassed for over an hour by a cop when I was a freshman in high school he told me I stole a girl’s purse when I never did such a thing and there was no evidence at all of me doing he kept on telling me to just admit to it when I never stole anything. Then he told me he wouldn’t suspend me if I told him about any recent crimes that happened in the area.

I got arrested for possession of marijuana only to have my friend who was arrested with me that night to see him at a party three months later where there was the same officer who arrested us at the party off duty, with under aged drinking and people smoking pot. I wish I could have been at that part to tell that cop how I feel about him. It’s happened to me it’s happened to friends of mine and I’ve seen plenty of other videos of the police abusing the powers.

I don't hate police either I just hate a lot of them

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Don't act like your evidence is more credible then mine because it's not. So if a cop says anything then does that mean it's true?

The story says the person was attacked from behind and knocked him to the ground in a dark alley. So I doubt that he was even able to get a good description of the attackers.

The witness described the attackers as two African American males in jeans that’s the only description they had and it seems like the cops pulled over the first two they can find when one of them was wearing white sweat pants during the arrest. Similar to the Rubin Carter incident to give a quick example of a similar case just to show that it's not the only time the Police have done this

The same cop who said he was going to make stuff up is the one who said they ran away when the cops approached them. According to Lawson and Franklin both claim that the cops stopped them at gun point. So I'm guessing you’re going to believe the cop that said he will make stuff up.

Did you watch the video? You can clearly here the officer say to one of them "I kicked you in the chest" then he starts talking about how he's going to make stuff up and charge them for robbery. They also only saw the aftermath of the arrest. Maybe you should watch the video one more time there’s plenty of wrong being done made by the police

Again, you're making my point for me regarding your personal vendetta against cops

Personal vendetta….What does this mean this has nothing to do with what we are talking about Stop going off topic

What about all the other tens of thousands missing dash cams that was mentioned in the article? I wonder what other type of evidence the police are trying to come up.

 

[Davi323]

Don't act like your evidence is more credible then mine because it's not. So if a cop says anything then does that mean it's true?

Well, now that's a great point. You can't trust everything a cop says...like, how he is going to make evidence up...

I hope you realize what you just did there. You just completely discredited your original post with one question that you weren't smart enough to catch the significance of.

Your entire post is based on the cop telling the suspects he is going to make up evidence, and you treat that threat as 100% indisputable fact...then in your next post, you make it a point to tell us how we can't trust the words of cops. Okay. So if the cops can lie about some stuff, isn't it possible that the cop was lying about making evidence up and was just trying to scare the suspects? You can't claim that you can't trust the word of a cop, as you just did, and then try to use the word of a cop as the 100% truth in order to base your rant on. If cops lie, then you can't trust that his threat to fabricate evidence was legitimate...and your rant against it is hollow.

 

[LSN80]

Don't act like your evidence is more credible then mine because it's not. So if a cop says anything then does that mean it's true?

I don't have evidence, and neither do you. The difference is while you ran a biased story based off the context of one story, I actually read the links in the follow up, and proved everything you said to be wrong.

And no, not everything a cop may say is true. He said he was going to make up a robbery charge against the men, and he didn't. He was lying there.

The story says the person was attacked from behind and knocked him to the ground in a dark alley. So I doubt that he was even able to get a good description of the attackers.

You can doubt it all you want, but you weren't there. What you believe to be true is irrelevant. What the victim says he saw is completely relevant. Far more relevant then your opinion. I like facts more then you do, obviously.

The witness described the attackers as two African American males in jeans that’s the only description they had and it seems like the cops pulled over the first two they can find when one of them was wearing white sweat pants during the arrest.

And had you read the second report, or the corresponding police report, you would know that the witness said she couldn't "positively identify" the men in a lineup. The victim did. What reason would he have to lie, per se?

The same cop who said he was going to make stuff up is the one who said they ran away when the cops approached them. According to Lawson and Franklin both claim that the cops stopped them at gun point. So I'm guessing you’re going to believe the cop that said he will make stuff up.

Yes, I'm going to believe the cop who was exonerated by impartial civilians, not the two men who were identified conclusively by the victim. You can say "he could't have gotten a good look at them", but you weren't there. Neither was I. So whose word do I take? The person who identified the men. Not the men who were arrested, the victim.

Personal vendetta….What does this mean this has nothing to do with what we are talking about

Cops do abuse their power all the time. You can pretty much get away with murder if you have a badge.I don't hate police either I just hate a lot of them.

What you said above, that's a personal vendetta. Did you forget you said this?

That's why I take you even less seriously then I already did, because of this. You hate "alot of cops." So who are you going to blame for the wrong in this world? Cops, of course.

I got arrested for possession of marijuana.

What bullies! How dare they arrest you for breaking the law! The nerve of them!

Stop going off topic

Quit trying to play Mod here, Todd, or I will. You won't win, trust me.

What about all the other tens of thousands missing dash cams that was mentioned in the article? I wonder what other type of evidence the police are trying to come up.

I'm guessing you didn't read my first post, not fully, anyway. I said it was disconcerting that the dash cam videos went missing, no doubt. I simply pointed out how you were wrong that the two men were suing the police department over the lost videos, they aren't. It was the website who broke the story that is suing the Police Department. Not the men who committed assault, the website is suing them. This is why I can't take you seriously.

You misrepresent facts from the very article you're trying to use as your "proof", and you admit you hate "alot of cops." But no bias there, right?

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

But Cops do lie all the time

My post is based on corrupt cops who wrongfully accused two men of a crime they didn't commit
Are you trying to tell me that it is ok for a cop tells someone he is going to make something up just to scare the suspect? Cops bluff all the time they try to get you into admitting what you did even if you’re innocent. I only asked that questions because you guys went all against me telling how the cops are the ones who said the two suspects ran away. When you were trying to claim that my story was completely wrong. Telling me I hoped I learned a lesson, when you seem to basing your evidence on what the cop said. What about the tens of thousands missing dash cams that were mentioned in the article?

I hate a lot of cops for what they do and I have many reasons why I do. I didn’t just wake up one morning and decide that I was going to hate the police. When they abuse their powers and you’re the one who originally brought up the personal vendetta not me. I like how you leave out the rest of my story about how i was arrested for position that you originally deleted you forgot to mention how my friend who was arrested so him when he was off duty at a party with underage drinking and people smoking pot next time post the rest of the story too that’s not going off topic. Well why yell at me for going off topic when all I was doing was answering your questions. I like how you quote me from my original post that you deleted. What happened to my first post this is similar to missing dash cams

 

[Davi323]

But Cops do lie all the time

My post is based on corrupt cops who wrongfully accused two men of a crime they didn't commit
Are you trying to tell me that it is ok for a cop tells someone he is going to make something up just to scare the suspect? Cops bluff all the time they try to get you into admitting what you did even if you’re innocent. I only asked that questions because you guys went all against me telling how the cops are the ones who said the two suspects ran away. When you were trying to claim that my story was completely wrong. Telling me I hoped I learned a lesson, when you seem to basing your evidence on what the cop said. What about the tens of thousands missing dash cams that were mentioned in the article?

No, you only THINK they wrongfully accused two men of a crime they didn't commit. The alleged victim thinks they did do it...frankly, the victim's testimony means a hell of a lot more than your extremely biased POV.

The victim positively identified the two suspects as the two people who had attacked him.

I don't know about LSN, but I am basing my criticism of you on the fact that The victim positively identified the two suspects as the two people who had attacked him....and you totally refuse to acknowledge it. They got the right guys.

 

[gd]

Great post by Todd. One story of possible wrongdoing by the police clearly means that the majority of cops are dirty scumbags who spend their nights raping homes and burning women. In fact, we should just get rid of law enforcement all together. Overall, I think the police are restricting my rights far too much each and every day. I think that all police should have their badges stripped based on the actions of these two men. Cheers.