Classic miss

[truk24]

Did anyone else think that Sim Snuka was going to come out, and give Jericho a New Jersey ass whoopin? This actually surpirsed me that it didn't happen. No, Sim isn't the best, but this could have been interesting to see. Sim v.s Jericho would have been nothing more than a heated rivalry. Nothing to carry in to WM25, just a warm up. Would be something to get Sim on the map, and out of his former Deuce character. Standing up for his father like a real man, and gaining some respect from the fans.

 

[DD84]

I thought so too. It would have done something for him, help push his character. They should move him if the won't do anything with him on RAW. But like you said, it was a big miss. He will beat up Charile Hass for showing respect, during a match to his father, yet sit down when Jericho beats down his father, rather odd.

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

I honestly thought Sim would run in and make the save for his father. that would've gotten him sooooo over with the fans and made him a bonified face within the company. Y2J really dropped the ball on this one. That would've been a good sopt. the entire interview was boring IMO having Sim Snuka come out would've woke the crowd up and gotten them a little more into the segment

 

[The Todd]

It just shows that Sim is also finished with the company. He was given one last shot, and it didn't work out. He will follow Manu out the door. I too was waiting to see if he would make an appearance, but the fact he didn't tells me he will be gone soon.

 

[Slyfox696]

Why would the WWE waste a good angle with someone like Sim Snuka? That seems silly. The whole point is for Jericho to smack all the old-timers around, and then have one of the old-timers (presumably Austin or Hogan) smack him around, and have all the legends point and laugh at Jericho.

Sim Snuka has no business being around this feud.

 

[truk24]

At what point did Austin, or Hogan say that they were going to come out of retirement and wrestle Jericho. Austin isn't that much older than Chris anyhow. Your implying that Austin is an "old legend". It would have made perfect sense for his son to come out. How many more legends do we have to sit through before this becomes as boring as the Master Lock challenge?

I get it, and I think most of the "casuals" do as well. Jericho has a problem with the Legends. Snuka would have been the icing on the cake especially when Sim announced he was Snuka's son. Fans know it, and we know he was wrestling on RAW, so what gives? Finally, someone who isn't older than 50 not getting their ass handed to them. If you honestly think that it makes sense for Jericho to have a match with a retired legend your kidding yourself.

First, Jericho is saying that this is exactly the problem. This all started with Duggan, when Y2J said he wasn't going to wrestle some has been like Jim Duggan. Thus, wrestling some old washed up has been wouldn't make sense now, if it didn't only a few weeks ago. Is your world that gullable? Anyone with some sense would say that the direction you are going is trite. Sim coming out to the aid of his father would have been special. Capping that all off with a steel cage match, and a splash from the top of the cage onto Jericho, and a hard fought win for Sim. Jericho needs to be humbled, and Sim should have been that man.

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

Sim Snuka has no business being around this feud.

While I agree that Sim Snuka is more than likely finished with the company the mere fact that Jimmy Snuka is his real life father gives him every reason to be put into this feud. Naturally he wouldn't last very long but a one on one match with Y2J later that night could've revived his career. Plus given the fans a little more entertainment last night. That would be the only natural thing to do especially if you're going for realism a son defending his father whats more real than that? Although we do have a storyline like that going on with HHH/Orton at the moment but still a Match with Y2J that night would've helped to angle in the long run. Now we have to go through another week of replays of that boring ass segment instead of seeing replays of a semi competitive match

 

[Slyfox696]

At what point did Austin, or Hogan say that they were going to come out of retirement and wrestle Jericho.

I wasn't aware that Piper, Steamboat or Snuka said they were going to be on Raw to confront Jericho. Didn't stop them from being there, now did it?

Austin isn't that much older than Chris anyhow.

But he is two things Jericho is not...a legend and a Hall of Famer.

Your implying that Austin is an "old legend".

No, you are inferring that. I don't ever imply anything.

It would have made perfect sense for his son to come out. How many more legends do we have to sit through before this becomes as boring as the Master Lock challenge?

How would it make sense for his son to come out? What sense does it make to put one of your top 3 heels in a program with a guy who isn't even good enough to be on the card, much less vie for any kind of title?

I get it, and I think most of the "casuals" do as well. Jericho has a problem with the Legends. Snuka would have been the icing on the cake especially when Sim announced he was Snuka's son. Fans know it, and we know he was wrestling on RAW, so what gives? Finally, someone who isn't older than 50 not getting their ass handed to them. If you honestly think that it makes sense for Jericho to have a match with a retired legend your kidding yourself.

I'm kidding myself? No, I'm just watching the storyline. YOU'RE kidding yourself if you don't think that this Jericho vs. Legends feud is going to come down to Jericho taking on some kind of a Legend. You think they're going to bring in Flair, Piper, Steamboat, and Snuka, for a payoff of Sim Snuka and Jericho? That's beyond ridiculous.

If you're going to do as Legend's son storyline, at least put Dusty Rhodes or Ted DiBiase in there, as they both have sons that actually matter. Sim Snuka doesn't matter.

Thus, wrestling some old washed up has been wouldn't make sense now, if it didn't only a few weeks ago. Is your world that gullable? Anyone with some sense would say that the direction you are going is trite. Sim coming out to the aid of his father would have been special. Capping that all off with a steel cage match, and a splash from the top of the cage onto Jericho, and a hard fought win for Sim. Jericho needs to be humbled, and Sim should have been that man.

Without meaning to be offensive, that is one of the stupidest things I've read.

Sim Snuka couldn't cut it in a tag team, couldn't cut in a faction, and cant cut it as a singles wrestler. He's 37 years, couldn't draw heat with a can of kerosene and a blowtorch, and has ZERO to do with being on Jericho's level. Putting Sim Snuke over Jericho, especially in a feud with Hall of Famers, would be completely stupid.

While I agree that Sim Snuka is more than likely finished with the company the mere fact that Jimmy Snuka is his real life father gives him every reason to be put into this feud.

First of all, Sim is not the real life son of Jimmy, he's the adopted son. Second of all, to be in a feud like this, you have to have at least 5 people care about you. Snuka fails in that regard.

Naturally he wouldn't last very long but a one on one match with Y2J later that night could've revived his career.

Why would you "revive" the career of a 37 year old wrestler who has never done anything in the business?

That's silly.

 

[The Todd]

At what point did Austin, or Hogan say that they were going to come out of retirement and wrestle Jericho. Austin isn't that much older than Chris anyhow. Your implying that Austin is an "old legend". It would have made perfect sense for his son to come out. How many more legends do we have to sit through before this becomes as boring as the Master Lock challenge?

I get it, and I think most of the "casuals" do as well. Jericho has a problem with the Legends. Snuka would have been the icing on the cake especially when Sim announced he was Snuka's son. Fans know it, and we know he was wrestling on RAW, so what gives? Finally, someone who isn't older than 50 not getting their ass handed to them. If you honestly think that it makes sense for Jericho to have a match with a retired legend your kidding yourself.

First, Jericho is saying that this is exactly the problem. This all started with Duggan, when Y2J said he wasn't going to wrestle some has been like Jim Duggan. Thus, wrestling some old washed up has been wouldn't make sense now, if it didn't only a few weeks ago. Is your world that gullable? Anyone with some sense would say that the direction you are going is trite. Sim coming out to the aid of his father would have been special. Capping that all off with a steel cage match, and a splash from the top of the cage onto Jericho, and a hard fought win for Sim. Jericho needs to be humbled, and Sim should have been that man.

Jericho cannot be humbled until Mania. Sim could have run to make sure his father was okay, that was it. He can't be involved in the storyline, just seeing him on tv with his Dad would have given him a little rub. For Sim to be the guy standing up for the legends wouldn't make sense.

 

[truk24]

You still don't get it. This whole storyline got started when Duggan was coming to the ring to wrestling Y2J. Once again why would Jericho wrestle some has been now, as opposed to a few weeks ago? This would make Jericho look like an ass. It is backwards, and defeats the purpose of the storyline.

 

[Slyfox696]

You still don't get it. This whole storyline got started when Duggan was coming to the ring to wrestling Y2J. Once again why would Jericho wrestle some has been now, as opposed to a few weeks ago? This would make Jericho look like an ass. It is backwards, and defeats the purpose of the storyline.

I know HOW the storyline started. But you need to understand WHY the storyline started. What's the point of having Jericho beat up all the Hall of Famers, just to have some nobody that fans don't care about come out to defend their honor? That's beyond ridiculous, and leading into the biggest show of the year, there is no way you are going to put one of your top heels in a match with a 37 year old nobody that people don't give a damn about.

 

[dsfedor]

i can see a Jericho v. Sim Snuka match for next week's Raw, but that'll probably be about it. no longterm fued at all, just a one-off match on tv. warmup for jericho, not necessarily a squash, but a decisive victory.

sim snuka to ecw at draft to rebuild a new wildman character.

 

[TakeAdooKie]

I would be personally humiliated for Jericho if they took HIS Legends feud (and don't fool yourselves, this is indeed his feud) and handed it over to Sim "Deuce" Snuka. Sim is a bum and he has no right to be on tv in any way shape or form, especially with Wrestlemania right around the corner.

 

[onelonesapper70]

I was watching it last night and at first I was thinking that Sim might come out to save his dad, but after awhile I had another thought. With the beatdown that Snuka took it might be opening the door for the "Legend" for Jericho to face at Wrestlemania and I am beginning to wonder if it is going to be The Rock

 

[ThePeoplesChampion]

no...omg the rock is my all time favorite...but he wont come back....hes to big of a movie star...only guys i could see him wrestle at mania would be....hbk, hhh ( never had a one on one at mania), or orton ( 3rd generation vs. 3rd generation)

 

[TwistofRKO]

Sly is completely correct here. This is a Wrestlemania storyline, where he can beat up nearly defenseless legends, or take cheap shots at them. What in the world would be the point in putting Sim Snuka over? Would he work into the title picture at Wrestlemani.. err i mean on ECW? Still wouldn't work.

That would seriously be the dumbest climax to a main event fued I'd ever seen.

 

[Christian Battlez]

You still don't get it. This whole storyline got started when Duggan was coming to the ring to wrestling Y2J. Once again why would Jericho wrestle some has been now, as opposed to a few weeks ago? This would make Jericho look like an ass. It is backwards, and defeats the purpose of the storyline.

I really think you don't get it. I understand your concept but the part you aren't realizing is he wouldn't lower himself to Duggan's level. That doesn't mean he can't face Hogan or Austin. Is Duggan a HOFer ? No. Is Hogan? Yes. Is Austin? He will be before the match. So it makes perfect sense for a powerful legend who could stick up to Jericho face him at WM. Duggan,Snuka,Piper,even Flair. These guys can't really defend themselves anymore. They aren't in the shape of a Hogan or Austin. They aren't on the prestige level as well except maybe Flair. Jericho vs Snuka as a payoff would have been dumb. Like someone said earlier even coming out to check on his dad would have been a rub. But they obviously feel he doesn't even deserve that. I'm inclined to agree.

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

I was watching it last night and at first I was thinking that Sim might come out to save his dad, but after awhile I had another thought. With the beatdown that Snuka took it might be opening the door for the "Legend" for Jericho to face at Wrestlemania and I am beginning to wonder if it is going to be The Rock

While that would be a great match sorry t say it'll NEVER happen. The Rock has said many times before that he doesn't want to return to wrestling. (hell he makes over 10 million a movie.) He even went as far as dropping his ring name. Snuka would've been the perfect set up for that match but much like the return of Austin it will have to remain a dream

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

It would have been a good idea to have Sim Snuka make the save for his father, but I doubt it would go anywhere. Did you expect Y2J to attack Jimmy and then Sim to come out to help his father, and when Jimmy came to, he would join his son in a Jericho beat down and later have a father/son pose? Or did you expect for Sim to come out and attack his own father? Because if I remember correctly, Randy Orton wanted Legacy to be a group of 2nd or 3rd generation superstars who wanted to become BETTER than their old man. So, if Sim wanted to be better than his father, he could have wanted to disrespect him and join Jericho in the beatdown. Either way, I doubt that bringing in Sim Snuka into the fray would really help him in any way.

 

[truk24]

I never said anything about this being a headliner at WM25. All that was suggested was for Sim to come out, and defend his father. Something to take away from the week in, and week out of the same old shit. I like the angle, but a small bump in the road is more realistic. Jericho coming out every week with the same routine gets old. This time he pisses off the wrong son, Sim in this case. The night or, the week following have a match.

That is it, and that is all I was suggesting. You all keep talking about Hogan/Austin as if they are going to come back and wrestle. That is not likely at all. This has nothing to do with HOF status, but more or less with "Legends of WM". Austin is a possible candidate, and that would bring in more money. I could care less who Jericho faces at WM25. It will be a one time thing, and thats all. Sim was stuck in their because his FATHER got a beat down! That is it, just some realism folks. Give me a break, what is so hard to understand? This makes him look more pathetic than he already was. Makes Sim look like a bitch now.

 

[Tastycles]

I never said anything about this being a headliner at WM25. All that was suggested was for Sim to come out, and defend his father. Something to take away from the week in, and week out of the same old shit. I like the angle, but a small bump in the road is more realistic. Jericho coming out every week with the same routine gets old. This time he pisses off the wrong son, Sim in this case. The night or, the week following have a match.

But do you not see that this would dilute the inevitible. One week Jericho will be doing this to some old man, and then Hogan or Austin will come out and beat him up.

If you really wanted to shoe horn Sim in, just have him loking distraught as he comes to his father's aid, and then point at Jericho. The next week, have Jericho destroy him and then belittle some other legend in his post match mic spot. It's shit, but makes more sense than losing a cage match.

Realism doesn't come into wrestling, so I don't think you can argue from this point of view. From a business sense Sim is a deadweight and he would have hindered this feud, rather than helped it.

 

[KillBill]

I think I Sim/Jericho match wouldn't be bad. Not at Wrestlemania, but a Raw match. Sim is decent and Jericho is great. Jericho could put over Sim even if he wins, just has to make him look good. I've said before. Somebody must care about him, or he woulda been released a year ago, or at least before Manu.

 

[truk24]

"Realism doesn't come into wrestling, so I don't think you can argue from this point of view. From a business sense Sim is a deadweight and he would have hindered this feud, rather than helped it. -Tastycles.

What? HHH just admitted that he is officially married in to the Mcmahon family through the Orton/HHH feud. Jericho is pointing out a certain sense of "realism" with this current storyline on old ex-wrestlers. What he is saying is exactly true. Most of these stars love the limelight, and still work on in to their 60's. Look at Abdullah, Terry Funk, Flair, Hogan etc... It is common amongst most old vets. What he is saying isn't untrue, but more or less taboo amongst the men themselves. Thus, making him out to be the antagonists/hypocrite, or in other words the heel.

No, realism isn't at the base of wrestling, but don't sit here and say that I can't argue this at this point. You are wrong, and hopefully I explained to you why you are wrong. Yes, I realize that Sim isn't a huge draw. However at what point were Snuka, Piper, or Flair draws? It has been a long time for any of those. Flair drew a nice crowd at his final match, but that crowd would have been there without Flair. Flair isn't bigger than WM.

This could have done something for Sim, and to say it wouldn't is completely mindless. We don't know what kind of rub this would have given Sim. In fact will never know what this could have done. Perhaps nothing could have resulted from this, but the problem with nothing is that there are so many possibilities the WWE had here involving him. That means the odds for some sort of "rub" to come from this could have been likely since there were more ways to work than to fail. The fans either respect that son rescues father or not.