I'll start off with saying I agree with you completely. Anytime a challenger dominates the champion like that, it really says something even if the challenger eventually loses. It not only shows everyone that he deserved to be there but it gives the world a glimpse into the fact that no champion is unbeatable. That is an incredible selling point. Nobody wants to watch someone who cannot lose. What I want to point out is you say that you're tired of people saying that he definitely lost. The thing is, he did. No matter how it went down, that is a loss on his record.
If I remember correctly, you and I had a back and forth about Fedor's record and his one loss (at the time). You said it was a DEFINITE loss and that nobody should look at it as anything but that. Just thought it was weird to say that about Fedor's loss, which was a result of an illegal blow and not a tko/decision/submission victory for his opponent. Yet, you say that it's not right to say that Chael definitely lost, when his loss was obviously more decisive.
My point is, that there are times when a loss can mean just as much as a win. This rematch is definitely one of those times. Chael will now come in as someone who isn't seen as a complete underdog. If the story and trash talk leading up to the first fight was something to behold, you can multiply it tenfold for the rematch. The issue lies with immediate rematches and when they should be allowed.
You are one hundred percent right. I should have been more specific by saying that I'm tired of people saying "he definitively lost so he does NOT deserve one."
You're absolutely right. This is a case where Chael's loss means more than a win BECAUSE of how badly he beat that ass. After Machida lost, Edgar beat Penn, and Carwin LEVELED Lesnar before eventually losing, it was beginning to look like Anderson and GSP were the only unbeatable's in the UFC.
Along comes a shit-talking republican from Oregon named Chael Sonnen. He said "I'm gonna bring the fight to Anderson," "He's gonna know he was in a fight..." Etc..
I knew he could wrestle, but I'll be honest, never in a million years did I see him dominating Anderson like that for 4 and a half rounds. I don't even think the biggest Sonnen fans on the planet TRULY believed he would dominate Anderson in all phases of the game like that. Including standup.
I'm of the opinion that there are certain times when a definitive loss still deserves a rematch. Fedor should get one against Werdum. A record of 30-2 earns you fucking rematch against the first guy to "beat" you in the eyes of many fans.
Absolute domination for 99% of the fight against, what many considered to be, the best pound for pound fighter in the world, earns you an immediate rematch.
I should have been more clear or elaborated further, but yeah, Sonnen did lose definitively. That SHOULDN'T, however, be the reason he doesn't get an immediate rematch.