Cena vs Brock @ Royal Rumble 15'

[ans1928]

I'm writing this under the notion that Cena will win his match against Rollins this weekend at TLC, maintaining his standing as the #1 contender for the WWE WHC. Fast forward to Royal Rumble where the last match before the Rumble itself will certainly be Cena vs. Lesnar part 3. There's a lot of talk of how Cena will once again lose to Brock for the title at RR, and I myself have even admitted that this will most likely be the way things unfold. However, what if Cena does win the title at Royal Rumble? Here are my thoughts:

If Cena does win the title (even though not many of us would like to see it, including myself), there are a few beneficial things that could come from it. For starters, we would no longer have a WWE champion that is part time. I know I'm not only speaking for myself in saying that I'm tired of Brock being champion. No one really gives a shit about Brock in the WWE anymore. His presence, or lack thereof, hasn't really done much for the company since he returned, and having him as the champion, to the eye, may be realistic, but in terms of just about everything else, it really isn't.

Additionally, if Brock does retain at the Royal Rumble, he probably won't be making an appearance at Elimination Chamber, which would lead to us not having a WWE World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber match, which would ultimately lead to having an Elimination Chamber match for no particular reason. Finally, this may be wishful thinking, but I'd personally like to see Brock vs. Taker at Wrestlemania again. If The Undertaker is indeed ready to hang up his boots, I want to see him go out on top, because quite frankly, it's what he deserves. Never having an opportunity to redeem himself after getting the shit kicked out of him at WM 30 just wouldn't be fair. If the WWE had booked it as an all-out-brawl that was a true fight to the finish I'd feel differently, but having Brock come in and manhandle Taker after spending quite a few years out of a WWE ring really has me questioning how special the Wrestlemania Streak really was to the company.

Not asking for you to agree with or like this idea, just curious as to what everyone's thoughts are regarding the possibility of Cena beating Lesnar at Royal Rumble in January. Will it happen? Probably not. Just looking to stir the pot a bit.

 

[TheICChampion]

Well, it really all depends on who they have pegged as the "Next Big Thing" and what they want to do with him. It's all but guaranteed it's still Reigns, but after being off for so long, there's really no telling if he's ready. If that's what they're going with then it's likely they're keeping Lesnar as champion, although it really doesn't work for me. The next best thing is to maybe book another Triple Threat match or maybe a Fatal 4 Way with Cena as champ and maybe Reigns as one of the contenders.

 

[closet_fan]

Maybe it's just the old school fan in me, but I love Brock being the champ. His lack of appearances makes his presence that much more special when he is around. The storylines in the WWE have been done fairly well. You don't need a title holder to make them THAT much better.

I imagine Cena wins TLC with the help of Orton returning (IMO anyway). Only reason why is because I can't see anyone else with main event appeal to face Lesnar at RR. I wish there was because I really don't want to see yet another Cena/Lesnar match.

Cena wins at TLC, but not clean. This keeps Rollins "safe."

Lesnar beats Cena, again, at RR.

I wish they would just do away with the Elimination Chamber altogether and use that time for more wrestlemania build.

 

[rbv13]

Unless I missed an updated report The Elimination Chamber has been removed from the mega event line up. It is being replaced with an event called Fast Lane.

As for the possible story line(s) surrounding the World Championship there are a number of interesting possible directions they could move in. Orton and Triple H could play major wild cards. Orton is best in the tweener role and to add another complex level to his character he could help Rollins win at TLC only to claim the # 1 contenders position for himself. Triple H could try to help Cena hoping he restores the Authority to power. They could toss out a big twist before we ever get to the Rumble.

 

[ans1928]

Unless I missed an updated report The Elimination Chamber has been removed from the mega event line up. It is being replaced with an event called Fast Lane.

I wasn't aware of that. Any idea as to what Fast Lane might be?

 

[ans1928]

Oh it's the name of the PPV. They've replaced the Elimination Chamber PPV in it's entirety. Hmm.

 

[Aeon Mathix]

I'm hoping for Cena to lose against Rollins so we can get Orton vs Lesnar at least once before Brock more than likely leaves for good after Mania. It's a legit big match and the only time they have ever fought was in a 2 minute squash back in 2002. I have no idea why it has taken WWE this long for it. Oh yeah that's right, wasting a whole year of Lesnar's contract with Triple H and having Cena fight him multiple times.

I just don't see Cena making it to the Rumble against Lesnar. Cena will almost have to lose again and that doesn't make Lesnar look any stronger and really doesn't do anything in the long run. If Cena beats Lesnar the streak pretty much died for nothing as Lesnar is THE man to beat right now and whoever does is going to make a career out of it. It's unfortunate about the injuries in WWE right now as Lesnar could have gone through quite a bit of main eventers making him even more dominate than he is now.

Think about it, if Bryan was healthy he could have faced Brock as Summerslam. Maybe not get destroyed but have Brock beat him, Cena wins a number one contender shot for Night Of Champions and gets destroyed, I would have forked over the money to have him fight at Survivor Series against Orton, then at the Rumble have him face Batista or something. That's Big Show, Undertaker, Bryan, Cena, Orton and Batista all destroyed within a year and whoever beats Lesnar for the title at Mania will reach unimaginable heights.

So yeah I am not only hoping Cena loses his number one contender match, I am hoping Orton gets a shot just so Lesnar can have some different matches before riding off into the sunset again after WWE gave him everything just like 10 years ago.

 

[Prince Vee]

If WWE really wants to show Roman reigns as the next best thing, here is my idea...

Let Brock win at rumble against Cena and it'll show Brock more intimidating and draw a whole lot of heat on him with the "My name is Paul Heyman and my client Brooock...." aftermath promo

Triple H should return back as a Face authority figure after all these months on anonymous or guest general managers. While addressing the Wrestlemania match between Brock and Roman (Obviously who's the RR winner), Brock should attack him for putting over Roman and Roman should come to save Hunter but should attacked by Cesaro who again represents himself as a Paul Heyman guy.

this will lead to a match between Hunter and Brock, and some stipulation match between Cesaro and Roman hm should be more like if Roman loses he'll lose his title shot opportunity at WM 31

Hunter should lose against the beast and Roman should win over Cesaro and Brock attacks Cesaro for letting him down and Roman should again be the savoir. These events will lead to a whole huge pop for Roman and whole huge heat on Brock which leads to their WM match

WM, Roman wins the title and becomes the next big thing!

P.S I don't like putting Rusev or Ryback against Lesnar and let them lose. they're potentially good but the loss will apparently bury them maybe

P.S 2 I don't like Roman Reigns but this would suit only if Roman wins the RR

 

[Creepy Old Man]

It's really Cena/Lesnar 4, and it's pretty horrible. Hopefully they let Rollins go over by underhanded means, and have a returning babyface Orton go against Lesnar instead. Lesnar has faced TWO new opponents in two years (Punk and Triple H), with all three Trips matches being diabolical. Can we PLEASE have something interesting out of Lesnar for once?!

 

[ans1928]

Think about it, if Bryan was healthy he could have faced Brock as Summerslam. Maybe not get destroyed but have Brock beat him, Cena wins a number one contender shot for Night Of Champions and gets destroyed, I would have forked over the money to have him fight at Survivor Series against Orton, then at the Rumble have him face Batista or something. That's Big Show, Undertaker, Bryan, Cena, Orton and Batista all destroyed within a year and whoever beats Lesnar for the title at Mania will reach unimaginable heights.

This is true. It's a shame there were so many injuries this year to the top guys in the company. With Cena being one of the few guys around to square off against him, they really missed out on their opportunity to do something special with Brock. It's obviously not their fault. But whoever they choose to put over by beating Brock at Wrestlemania won't see the same impression they could have. Just sucks his contract was essentially wasted because of the lack of star power available.

 

[Mustang Sally]

If Cena does win the title (even though not many of us would like to see it, including myself)

Don't be fooled by the people who "hate" Cena or are "bored" by him into thinking his following is dwindling. People could argue all day long about this, but I still point to the fact he's the #1 performer in the company..... there are a multitude of factors that point to it.....and when you're the big dog, you'll wind up coming out on top.

As for Cena-Lesnar, I don't know whether the company is shooting for them to meet at WM31 or the Royal Rumble, but I ask this: if the plan isn't for Cena to eventually defeat Brock, what was the purpose of having Brock defeat him twice? If one goes by the constant storyline, Cena will eventually get his revenge, no? He is "SuperCena," right? Good always triumphs over bad, yes?

Of course, the specter of Roman Reigns could be what gums up the works. If WWE truly wants him to be the guy who wins the belt from Brock, I don't know how and when they're going to fit in a Brock-Cena finish-to-the-feud. Perhaps management already knows that Brock will be re-enlisting with WWE after WM31, leaving room for both Cena and Reigns to go after Brock.

But there will be a finish to Cena vs. Brock.....and it sure ain't gonna wind up with a clean sweep for Heyman's client.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

A lot could depend on what sort of numbers Raw starts pulling once the first of the year comes around. The last time Raw will be up against Monday Night Football will be December 22 and when MNF goes on hiatus, we usually start seeing Raw's ratings heading back up into the mid to upper 4 million range, excluding DVR viewership. If Raw is back to business as usual and is drawing strong numbers heading into the Royal Rumble, they may not take the title off Lesnar.

However, there's also something to consider in the long run: having Brock Lesnar retain the WWE World Heavyweight Championship at the Royal Rumble will ultimately lead us into a WrestleMania situation with an outcome we'll know the second Lesnar's Rumble match is over. Most people are expecting Lesnar to be gone after WrestleMania XXXI, so him dropping the strap at the event will be a dead giveaway and that could lead to lackluster interest similar to what we saw with Cena vs. Rock II. If WWE, and by WWE I mean Vince McMahon primarily, becomes dead set on having Roman Reigns win the title at WrestleMania, then they could go the route of having Cena beat Lesnar at the Rumble and ultimately drop it to Reigns clean in order to give Reigns his big moment and Cena will have then had his 16th run.

While that might not seem as grand as being the 1 to beat the 1 in 21-1, the outcome wouldn't be as guaranteed as Lesnar going into WrestleMania as champion is. But, again, Reigns defeating Lesnar could still be a huge boost to his career, if he's genuinely ready to be in that spot.

There are pros & cons to any scenario that can be thought up. Personally, based on the information that's out there and where WWE SEEMS to be heading as far as the WrestleMania XXXI main event, I'm currently not nearly as interested as I was for the title picture last time around.

 

[kadroan]

Don't be fooled by the people who "hate" Cena or are "bored" by him into thinking his following is dwindling. People could argue all day long about this, but I still point to the fact he's the #1 performer in the company..... there are a multitude of factors that point to it.....and when you're the big dog, you'll wind up coming out on top.

As for Cena-Lesnar, I don't know whether the company is shooting for them to meet at WM31 or the Royal Rumble, but I ask this: if the plan isn't for Cena to eventually defeat Brock, what was the purpose of having Brock defeat him twice? If one goes by the constant storyline, Cena will eventually get his revenge, no? He is "SuperCena," right? Good always triumphs over bad, yes?

Of course, the specter of Roman Reigns could be what gums up the works. If WWE truly wants him to be the guy who wins the belt from Brock, I don't know how and when they're going to fit in a Brock-Cena finish-to-the-feud. Perhaps management already knows that Brock will be re-enlisting with WWE after WM31, leaving room for both Cena and Reigns to go after Brock.

But there will be a finish to Cena vs. Brock.....and it sure ain't gonna wind up with a clean sweep for Heyman's client.

I guess they have Lesnar beat Cena twice to make Reigns look even stronger when he defeats Brock for the championship.

I could see it now, the hype how Brock beat HHH, Big Show, Cena twice, something nobody has ever done and say Reigns could be the guy to stop Lesnar.

 

[thebarber]

after the build and special treatment LESNAR is getting, their is no chance in hell he does not walk into Wrestlemania 31 as the defending WWE Heavyweight Champion. Whomever Cena is going to feud with at Wrestlemania will no doubt cost Cena his match at the RR. Reigns is nowhere ready for the big belt but I can see him beating Lesnar, only to have a Seth Rollins cash in and title win. It wont be the final match on the card, so Seth Rollins cashin in wont be the final moment of Mania 31 in my opinion. Cena winning his match will be, so whomebver costs him the Rumble match will have to be a big time heel and a major player to be able to close Wrestle mania 31. This is whay I see the biggest show of the year being a tag team match, 30 years later with Hulk Hogan as the special guest referee. John Cena and The Rock vs Triple H and somebody of his choosing, with Cena , Rock and Hogan closing out the show celebrating the 30th anniversary of Mania 1. So im guessing HHH somehow costs Cena the RR title match.

 

[ans1928]

Whomever Cena is going to feud with at Wrestlemania will no doubt cost Cena his match at the RR. Reigns is nowhere ready for the big belt but I can see him beating Lesnar, only to have a Seth Rollins cash in and title win. It wont be the final match on the card, so Seth Rollins cashin in wont be the final moment of Mania 31 in my opinion.

I would like to see this happen so we can finally get the Rollins/Reigns feud we've been waiting for. If Reigns wins, Brock could do a substantial amount of damage to him after the match, having Rollins come cash in and pin Reigns for the title. Could also lead to Rollins being the next Heyman guy, giving Paul something to do after Brock's imminent departure from the WWE after Mania. I just don't see this not being the last match of the event though. Unless the tag match you proposed is on the card, but it's still yet to be seen whether or not The Rock will even be at Wrestlemania.

 

[fallguye6011]

I've never liked Lesnar, as far as I'm concerned, every penny spent on this fool is wasted cash and this title reign of his has been nothing short of a complete joke. While I've read the replies and agree with some, I've been watching since the late 70s and I've got to admit I've never seen a guy seem less enthused about both his belt and representing a company than Brock Lesnar. Granted, he's got a contract that basically makes both the belt and himself worthless and why WWE's wasting time with him remains a mystery. He's got the belt for two reasons, the biggest being a reward for beating the Undertaker, the other being to promote the defunct Authority and change things up. What was actually supposed to happen in the WM match is something only Vince knows, I've seen numerous reports it was supposed to be the other way as well. The way Cena put him over at SummerSlam I'm sure was out of respect to the Undertaker.
Ever bringing the guy back again was asinine, much less putting him in the matches he's had. I've also seen reports Lesnar's headed back for an MMA comeback. I believe the man's costing the company far more than he's making them, no title defenses at the PPVs have to take a hit on sales, leaving those who buy with boring, meaningless main events.
Go back to the 80s when Hogan was never seen but defended on PPVs, WWE's roster was in great shape compared to what it is 30 years later. As much as I hate the man, Heyman is a wrestling genius, but could probably do better in creative anymore. You think the promo shows are in bad shape now, having Heyman and Lesnar on every week would be hazardous to WWE in terms of killing off viewers and sinking ratings. If it's not obvious already, you neither gain nor lose anything with Brock Lesnar, but the belt essentially is garbage as long as he's got it. The guy is awful plain and simple. What few promos he's had echo a complete clod and his gimmick fits WWE no better than WWE would in MMA. He's certainly no entertainer. I don't see how WWE can afford to keep Lesnar champ until WM, his lack of appearances certainly don't help the show as long as he's champ. Maybe it's just me but WWE seems like it's had the emergency brake on since SummerSlam, like they're trying to move forward but just can't. Rollins has neither Reigns, nor Orton to fight so they throw Cena, who's also got nothing to do until the match with Lesnar, in there. I could see WWE realizing they can't afford him anymore and have Cena win. The sooner they can finally get Lesnar flushed, the quicker WWE can get going. The man hardly seems to care about WWE and being a decent champ. I don't recall a more foolish run than having a part timer as champ. The Rock had it a month and lost it the following PPV, but Lesnar's hardly on the same level as The Rock.