Cena put the crowd to sleep, Miz woke them up.

[xsKiitz]

This crowd was going OFF at Orton's match and Austin's segment. They actually started the "What?" chants during Cole's announcement.

Hell, they were even into Morrison-Dolph. Which was actually a good match.

With Cena's rap 2 weeks ago, I thought Cena may be on the path to become a superstar to reckon with. Cut a good promo, pull off a good match etc.
After that it's been a steep downhill.

Which leads me to this episode of RAW.
What was the difference between his rap and his 'hip hop' anyway? You know he was off the a bad start when the crowd silently boos him when he announces he was doing a hiphop segment. Look, it was just awful. Couldn't really get into it, and I didn't really notice the rhyme. The only funny part was the custom T-shirt of the Rock's he had.

And we all know there's only one thing worse than getting bood by the crowd, and that's the silent treatment. He wasn't funny, he wasn't clever, nor was his anywhere near interesting or intimidating.

MIZ on the other hand surprised us all and really made a mark and inserted himself in the Rock-Miz-Cena thing going on.
Great part by the Miz.


I just hope Cena gets his act together, because over the past months I've been noticing an increase of boos and uninteresting cues.
Thoughts?

 

[kaneso14]

I thought this was once again another quiet crowd for Raw. Not smarky because Christian would have got more of a pop and Cena would have been booed, but just quiet. Austin got a great pop but I honestly thought it would be louder. They did liven up after than until, as you said, Cena put them to sleep. It was a horrible promo from him and I was expecting a lot more. I'm glad the Miz did what he did. It shut Cena up and helped the Miz look relevant again. As the weeks go buy, I am beginning to think more and more that the Rock is going to help the Miz go over Cena at WM. I don't know what it is but it's just my gut feeling.

 

[CowSlayer]

What was the difference between his rap and his 'hip hop' anyway?

That was basically a joke....he said the Rock didn't like him addressing him in form of a "rap". So He does it again, but doesn't call it "rapping".

 

[xhayesamaniax]

I agree with the original poster, I thought Cena's promo last night was dull and I couldn't believe the amount of boos he got. I do disagree with the opinion that the crowd was quiet as I actually thought they were into it for the majority of the night, espacially with the JBL-Cole-STSA angle they did which I thought was pure gold. I thought it was an overall good raw, and although I still consider myself a Cena fan, he's starting to lose me a little bit. I made my grandmother watch Raw with me last night, and although she rarely watches the program she said something that might just sum Cena up; "Boy that John Cena never changes does he." I'm hoping more and more that the Miz goes over at mania, I'm becoming a pretty big fan of his and I'm enjoying the material he's been presenting; probably because it's something new.

 

[Chadmw]

First of all the Difference between Hip hop and Rap, is there isn't one and that was part of the joke.

I actually enjoyed Cena's rap/hip hop this week, I'll admit not as much as his Rap a couple of weeks ago, but this was still decent. And I'm sure all the IWC Cena haters will come on here saying how much he sucked. The thing I like about Cena is that he can make fun of himself, but can get serious when he needs to be.

But I do agree, The Miz did a great job of making himself relevant in this feud between the Rock and Cena, and helped put the focus back where it should be and that is on himself and the title match

 

[LegendKiller_RKO]

I think people just look for any possible way they can hate on Cena. Mind you im not the biggest Cena fan either but cmon!!! Look at the rocks lame promo last week. You wanna talk about being put to sleep, go back and watch that pile of garbage! But yet not very many seemed to talk about that... Cena 100% is winning this "war of words" so to speak. Im loving how hes reverting to his old gimmick for his rebuttals at the rock. xskiitz writes he thought Cena would finnally become a superstar to be reckoned with... Have u been watching any wwe programing for the past 5 years or so? Cena IS wwe. He IS the guy to be reckoned with. Also he posts "or cut a good promo". Cena is a great promo man. Just because hes a face and his promos are cheesy and fan appeasing doesnt mean he cuts bad promos. It means hes doing his FU%K*NG JOB!!!!!! Hes a great mic guy. And finally he writes "pull off a good match". Cena, or i should say, most of the guys in the wwe's move sets are dulled down. Its not cena. Just because hes not flipping and flailing around the ring doesnt mean he cant wrestle a match. It just means your obnoxious and nit picky. And last but not least the AWEEESSSOMMEE! one the MIZ! Miz is truely a star. The guy is showing he can really hang with the best. I loved how he mocked the rock with the "candy ass" and the peoples elbow. Great promo as always. Knows how to really draw heat and he doesnt have to insult dead mothers (cough cough Michael cole) to get it.

 

[JGlass]

Are you kidding me? Were you actually listening to the crowd? Cena was getting a HUGE reaction out of them! I mean, it was mostly negative, but that's because he was telling them the cold hard truth, that The Rock doesn't care enough about them to be there, and the truth hurts.

That said, Cena's promo last night was most certainly not the knockout blow that he said it would be. It didn't come close to matching the intensity and awesomeness that was his first rap directed at The Rock. It was good, there were a few solid lines, but it wasn't as special as the first one was. The segment would have gotten a C+/B- from me had it ended there.

However, Miz coming out and attacking Cena definitely livened things up a bit. But it wasn't Miz's attack that really impressed me, it was the promo he cut afterward. The thing with Miz's promos are that they are all so impassioned and meant to be high impact, but if he messes up even a little, whether it be stumbling over a word or maybe saying something in too roundabout a way, the quality of the promo takes a huge hit. He nailed it last night. It was probably his most fired up promo of his career, and it was a damn good one. I also liked how he interrupted his catch phrase just to hit Cena with the Skull Crushing Finale. Everything about Miz's half of the segment was terrific, and he definitely finished RAW the right way.

 

[EStreet]

IMO, Cena felt the crowd was Pro-Rocky, knew the Miz was coming, gave a poor delivery of his "Hip-Hop" and allowed for the Miz to get into this triangle that has become the draw for WM. It was getting out of hand that the Rock and Cena have completely overshadowed the actual WWE Champion. After Cena tanks his Promo, the Miz automatically looks like a strong guy on the Mic, he goes right after the Rock and does so in a very cool way by stealing his phrases and then delivering the Rock Bottom (in this case, imitation was cool), and now The Rock will respond to The Miz, not Cena.

Good script by creative last night for this to unfold. Nobody really thought a Cena-rap part 2 would live up to the first one, and they knew they would eventually get hostile crowds towards Cena and then the game would be spoiled. Instead, tank it (even if the crowd was hot, this still woulda let the Miz look good and a true heel), and move the story forward.

 

[classicviolence]

Miz shot himself in the mouth when he wanted to turn the Rock's insults into a ball and turn it sideways. I immediately laughed at that moron.

Cena's raps are so elementary school, always have always been. Cena/Rock needs a face to face interaction.

 

[erichirschi]

After Mizanin hit Cena with the belt the first time, was I the only one who caught that fan who bum rushed the ring? The camera was on Miz for a little bit, the ring shook (while the camera was on mizanin's face the whole time) and then when the camera was about to show the second time, you see the security guard carrying off some chunky nerd wearing all black in the background. THAT WAS THE BEST PART OF CENA'S promo. Miz did his thing and i commend him

 

[jellmoo]

I liked Cena's first rap promo. It was fun to see him go back to that character for a bit. He got a couple of shots in, and all in all it was one of the better promos anyone in WWE has done in a while.

The problem was that the promo The Rock did the week before was off the charts.

This week's promo by Cena was incredibly lacklustre by comparison. The fire and drive from his original rap promo were gone. His delivery was off. The substance wasn't there. The crowd was just plain anti-Cena. It didn't work. That's part of the problem with the angle, it's very divisive. I'm not sure if WWE expected the crowd to be a little more into Cena, maybe hoping for a 50/50 split, but as of last night, it isn't happening.

The Miz needed *something* to keep his part in this going. Thus far, it's been all Rock and Cena. Was the attack enough? I'm not sure. Part of the problem is that The Miz just doesn't feel legit enough. He has no big wins outside of screwjobs, and the way the angle is being booked makes him look like an afterthought. He's in the middle of an angle featuring the number guy of yesterday and the number one guy of today. An attack on Cena won't be enough for him to remain relevant.

 

[XXJJ]

Yeah I agree with the op. Miz saved that segment. Cena's promo was stupid and not funny. Very disappointing because they were hyping it up as a "knock out punch". I didn't think the crowd was dull. They were into it most of the night.

 

[smittypablo]

I was there live,the only time cena got a pop was when he came out. There was multiple rocky chants and yabba dabba bitch chants. Cena's little "hip Hop" came off lame and didn't even rhyme, there was actully people cheering when the miz laid cena out. Funniest thing is when a fan jump the barrier, anyways the arena was sold out and the rock shirt was the first shirt sold out. There was a lot of vintage shirts tonight.

 

[EStreet]

Miz made himself relevant by going right after the Rock. He said he would beat the Rock at 'Mania, and it was overlooked last week. So he decided to take it a step further and go straight after the Rock with using his phrases and even his people's elbow. I don't know any other way to inject yourself into the storyline except to go right after the person until he responds.

 

[Kaneanite]

Are you stupid? Cena was getting a huge reaction from the crowd, some positive some negative but that's expected when you call out The Rock. The crowd popped when Miz appeared because it was surprising but there wasn't really shit after that. Anyone will get a reaction if they just laid out the face of the company, called out the Rock, and ended RAW. A-N-Y-O-N-E. Saying the crowd was asleep for Cena is a joke...

And what do you mean by, "Hell, they were even into Morrison-Dolph." Who wouldn't be? They're arguably 2 of the most entertaining in the ring that WWE has to offer these days....

Cena has been getting both cheers and boos since 2006. Do you not remember his match with RVD at One Night Stand? Nice observation, it took you 5 years. Oh but wait, Cena is still the face of the company so who gives a fuck?

We PRAISE Miz for FINALLY capitalizing on a situation that Barrett, Ziggler, CM Punk, or Del Rio would already be THRIVING in and Miz is even STILL looked at as a 3rd wheel and people will still be buying to see Cena/Rock showdown and then ask "Who's this Miz guy anyway? Is he carrying out Cena's title for him?".

 

[ChiefAlot]

The best part last nite was JBL getting hit by a full can of beer. Austin laughing then offers him a beer and stuns him.

 

[jellmoo]

Miz made himself relevant by going right after the Rock. He said he would beat the Rock at 'Mania, and it was overlooked last week. So he decided to take it a step further and go straight after the Rock with using his phrases and even his people's elbow. I don't know any other way to inject yourself into the storyline except to go right after the person until he responds.

The problem is that The Rock has utterly controlled the entire angle so far, and that's with only being live for the one show. Cena has been relevant because The Rock made him relevant.

Until The Miz has that same interaction with The Rock, and gets that level of attention, nothing The Miz does will really matter as far as being relevant to the entire angle. Right now the hot story is Rock/Cena. It won't be until The Rock adds him to the mix that it will become Rock/Cena/Miz.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

There's a big difference between a crowd being dead, and listening. They were listening. To say this crowd was dead, or didn't care what Cena was doing, is laughable.

The crowd was pretty split, and remember, caring about what Cena had to say isn't the same thing as liking it. Half the crowd hated Cena, and didn't hesitate in making that a known fact. However, they weren't dead. If they were dead, they wouldn't have boo'd the way they did.

Of course Miz added something, he wasn't even supposed to be there. He added surprise. The crowd stopped listening to Cena..because he got nailed. That's how it works.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Some people are never satisfied, it's as simple as that. The Rock's opening promo was absolute gold, especially after a seven year hiatus, with some relaxation of the PG restrictions. John Cena's rap response was equally skilled, going back to the rapper Cena for an evening.

When the Rock responded via satellite from his home, I thought that promo was superb. Passionate about his family history in WWE, with the belts on display in his living room. And Cena responded last night equally well. I thought the interactions between the two have been top notch. I can't wait until they meet face to face in the ring prior to Wrestlemania, and of course, at Wrestlemania itself.

Plus the Miz has kept himself relevant too. I thought the Miz was really good last night. Decimating Cena, cutting a promo, then going back to assault Cena again. Addressing the Rock, setting up a face to face with them as well. He could easily be the odd man out here, even though he is the champion, but in my opinion, he has kept himself involved nicely.

If you ask me, great work from all three guys. I really don't know what some of you expect.

 

[D-Squared]

Are you stupid? Cena was getting a huge reaction from the crowd

Cena has been getting both cheers and boos since 2006. Do you not remember his match with RVD at One Night Stand? Nice observation, it took you 5 years. Oh but wait, Cena is still the face of the company so who gives a fuck?

"Who's this Miz guy anyway? Is he carrying out Cena's title for him?".

There was no reaction for Cena last night cos we had heard it all before... like people are saying the rap he did the week prior was good (i hate cena but ill give him that one) and this week was just lame

The only reason Cena is still the face of this company is because little girls still scream for him and little boys still buy his t-shirts... THE MAN CANNOT WRESTLE AND HAS TO BE CARRIED IN EACH AND EVERY MATCH HE IS IN.

And the Miz WILL be the future of the company once John Cena pisses of and gives the limelight to people that actually matter such as Miz, Ziggler and JoMo!

Cena Sucks... end of!

 

[jellmoo]

There was no reaction for Cena last night cos we had heard it all before... like people are saying the rap he did the week prior was good (i hate cena but ill give him that one) and this week was just lame

The only reason Cena is still the face of this company is because little girls still scream for him and little boys still buy his t-shirts... THE MAN CANNOT WRESTLE AND HAS TO BE CARRIED IN EACH AND EVERY MATCH HE IS IN.

And the Miz WILL be the future of the company once John Cena pisses of and gives the limelight to people that actually matter such as Miz, Ziggler and JoMo!

Cena Sucks... end of!

I agree that Cena isn't a top notch wrestler. Absolutely.

But then you bring up The Miz, who is a much worse wrestler than Cena is.

Followed by Ziggler, who while is incredibly gifted has been utterly unable to generate heat without Vickie.

And top it off with John Morrison, who has the mic skills of cantaloupe.

I'm not the biggest Cena fan in the world, but seriously, there's a reason why he's the top guy in the company. One day, maybe the guys you brought up will be at his level. But right now, they simply aren't.

 

[D-Squared]

Im not saying that JoMo, Ziggler and Miz are great, im saying they need TV time to improve...

look at how much TV time Alberto Del Rio has had, he is on RAW, NXT and SmackDown and they guy is now Maineventing Wrestlemania, he hasnt even ben with the company for 6months

Miz has the mic skills and is getting better in the ring, this feud with Cena is going to kill him when Cena beats him in 30 seconds at Mania...

Im sick to death of Cena constantly killing rising stars (Miz, Barrett) just to name a few

 

[jellmoo]

Part of the problem is that these guys aren't being developed before they are thrust into the main event.

Miz needs to become a better wrestler. He could use som conditioning as well, but first and foremost he needs to get ring work and psychology down. This should have happened before a championship run.

John Morrison needs to work the stick better. He grabs the crowd with amazing athleticism, but he can't hold them without mic skills. The problem is that he isn't developing them. He hasn't gotten better. I don't know if it's because he's a natural heel, or he simply hasn't had enough practice, but to do something like headline Mania, he will need to be able to hold his own on the mic.

Ziggler... I like his ring work and his look, but he just doesn't connect with the crowd. He might never be able to, which is unfortunate. He just might not have "it".

I think you're putting more blame on Cena than he deserves. Barrett is being buried now, sure, but it had precious little to do with Cena. Going from an utter nobody on NXT to a major player that shows he can match Cena on the mic is a major step.

And Cena hasn't buried Miz yet. WWE is not likely to have Cena beat Miz in 30 seconds. Be honest about that. Cena might win, hell, it's probably likely. But WWE clearly sees something in Miz if they've kept the title on him this long. It's in John Cena's best interest for the Miz to look good out there, so I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to make it happen.

 

[Kidd]

From The Rock's Twitter:

The Miz...you want my attention...well now you got it...champ.

Looks as if Miz accomplished what he wanted last night.

He has now inserted himself into this Rock/Cena feud and is relevant going into Wrestlemania.

 

[jellmoo]

From The Rock's Twitter:

Looks as if Miz accomplished what he wanted last night.

He has now inserted himself into this Rock/Cena feud and is relevant going into Wrestlemania.

Until he actually interacts with The Rock, until people are as excited about his participation as they are with Rock/Cena, and until the focus is shifted from the Rock and Cena having a confrontation to the Rock, Cena and Miz having a confrontation, he isn't relevant.

With any luck, that will change come Monday. If the Rock shows up to RAW it should change. If the Rock is "via satellite", it might change. But make no mistake, The Rock is in complete control of this angle.