Cena as a HEEL....

[the_peoples_adam]

I have one question.. John Cena has carried WWE for so long and had enough share of mainevent spotlight. Also right now there is lots of young talent who can carry this company and take it to next level.
So the question is ain't this the right time for CENA to turn HEEL..
and If he turns HEEL can he become the greatest heel this company has ever had.
In my opinion if he turns HEEL he can be a bigger HEEL than Vince Mcmahon and can get double the heat that Vickie Guerrero used to get.
Your thoughts??

 

[Prince Vee]

I don't think it'll be a good idea at any point of his WWE career. Its not just his character that had deep rooted into the heart of the WWE universe but it's something more than that. He's a role model for kids. That's the reason why kids love him.

I know the fantasy of many IWC (Which includes me) wants to see a heel run of John Cena at least one. Nevertheless it's not gonna happen it doesn't matter who owns the power Vince or Hunter, John Cena stays as a face till he retires.

Apparently Cena Sucks chants are not gonna be overshadowed if he turns heel. There maybe a lot of young superstars rising to the top but we can't be undoubtedly sure that they'll have the potential to carry the company on their shoulder for the next 15 years.

Cheers!!

 

[Mr.Maikeru_Sawyer]

I don't think it'll be a good idea at any point of his WWE career. Its not just his character that had deep rooted into the heart of the WWE universe but it's something more than that. He's a role model for kids. That's the reason why kids love him.

THIS! is the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT people used to use about HULK HOGAN turning heel. yet he still did it in 1996 and turned the Wrestling world on it's head making heels cool & bringing in a SECOND Golden Age(NWO/Attitude Era) athat made wrestling a mainstream must watch. I think that John can do the exact same thing.

 

[kumarjtk]

wwe won't turn hogan as a heel. now wwe planned roman as their next kids hero. still they use him that way. current angle with bray wwe portrait roman as a good father. if roman success as a kids hero then cenas heel turn is possible. his heel turn come against roman.

 

[Messiah]

They have nobody to carry the company on their back besides John Cena..Turning him heel is pointless for them.It's not like he's not drawing, he's the biggest draw as a babyface and nobody comes close... It's just what the internet wants, unfortunately it's not happening anytime soon.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

If WWE is really confident that Roman Reigns can be the top guy I would think turning Cena heel can actually be beneficial to Reigns. I can imagine if Cena vs. Reigns were to feud this would be one rivalry in which fans would be behind Reigns more than Cena. I can see a face vs. face match in which Reigns dismantles Cena turning Cena heel in the process.

It does two things 1.) Pushes Reigns as the next top guy being handed the torch Cena has been carrying for over a decade 2.) gives Reigns someone to work with from the get go that would generate fan interest and 3.) Cena can finally turn heel.

 

[Prince Vee]

THIS! is the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT people used to use about HULK HOGAN turning heel. yet he still did it in 1996 and turned the Wrestling world on it's head making heels cool & bringing in a SECOND Golden Age(NWO/Attitude Era) athat made wrestling a mainstream must watch. I think that John can do the exact same thing.

Yes I agree that this is an exact same old argument but in the other perspective, Hogan had more adult fans than Kids. Kids love him of course but none adored him for his physique. He motivated teens and adults so his turn was absolutely overwhelming that people for firmly behind that. Moreover, WWE universe isn't the same as it was in golden era.

Cheers!!

 

[chuckmdubya]

I think there have been as many Cena heel turn threads as there have been CM Punk return threads. People often compare it to Hogan turning heel and claim it can change the face of the business again or it can make Raw better with Cena as a heel. It may make Raw better, but it will not have the same effect as Hogan did. Simply because John Cena is no Hulk Hogan. Hogan was the guy that everyone tuned in to watch, noone has ever tuned in just because John Cena was part of the show. He is a great wrestler, with in ring skills that exceed Hogan's, but he's Lebron to Hogan's Jordan. Hogan was THE MAN in his day. Hogan changed it from fake fighting into sports entertainment. When he switched heel, the industry followed him. It may have actually not been his idea, but it was his involvement that made the bad guys cool.
Cena does not have such credibility. He is the best at his job, he is a better wrestler, hell, he's straight up better than Hogan was, but he didn't create a broad spectrum splash that Hogan did. A heel turn may help to improve the current Raw product somehow, but it wouldn't be my ace in the hole if i'm Vince.

 

[Headman]

I have one question.. John Cena has carried WWE for so long and had enough share of mainevent spotlight. Also right now there is lots of young talent who can carry this company and take it to next level.
So the question is ain't this the right time for CENA to turn HEEL..
and If he turns HEEL can he become the greatest heel this company has ever had.
In my opinion if he turns HEEL he can be a bigger HEEL than Vince Mcmahon and can get double the heat that Vickie Guerrero used to get.
Your thoughts??

Oh neat! This thread again! First, no baby face on the roster has come close to proving they can carry the company. 2nd, Cena turning heel will not "give someone else a chance" it will take the best talent on the roster (most of whom are heels) and turn them into background characters. Cena isn't going to turn heel and become Adam Rose. He would be the top heel which means Seth Rollins would either play 2nd fiddle or turn face. If he turns face he most likely wouldn't be top face. So now with one oh so brilliantly planned heel turn we have now just demoted WWE's best developed new star. Wonderful idea internet people.

 

[That N Word]

I use to be one who always wanted to see the heel turn take place and yes it could even boost him over Austin and Rock if the run goes right. However, I now understand why he doesn't turn and it should NOT happen.

I was at K-Mart watching how happy the little kids were to meet Cena. I pretended to be on the phone with him and the little girls happy reaction was heart warming. He also did 2 or 3 make-a-wish that same day. He did one right in the store while we was all waiting in line.

IF he does turn heel it would be when Roman is fully ready. And Yes Roman, at this point he is the ONLY one who would be the only one kids will except. He is the closest to Cena's popularity with the kid right now. Hell, I may even say the kids are beginning to like him more than Cena.

If Cena does turn heel it would need to be in 2017 and would need to work like this. At WrestleMania 32, Reigns beats Cena and he raises his hand passes the torch and the next night on Raw he cuts a promo saying he is going away for awhile and thanks the fans. For the whole 2016 year WWE is seeing how popular Reigns will get with the kids with merchandise and cheers and emotion.

If Reigns can get over enough with the children, then have Cena return at RR 2017 saving Reigns from a attack in a NO DQ match for the world title against Bray Wyatt where Harper/Rowan comes down to jump him. After that I would have Cena go out and get a chair while Reigns sets up for a spear on Wyatt. After he hits the spear Cena hits him with a chair and then AA's him setting up Cena vs Reigns II at WrestleMania 33.

That would make the kids completely side with Reigns as their new hero. Cena would be come the part-time vilian who only wrestles at the big 4 PPV's. Cena would turn face again 4 or 5 years later as he is ready to retire.

That's the only way that could work. If that would even work.

 

[The Samoan Heritage]

Cena won't go heel as long as he's full time In the wwe. His character has become THE GREASTEST BABYFACE OF ALL TIME. What I mean is there's guys that have built their characters as babyfaces(and fit/play the part) so well that its almost impossible for them to ever go heel. Examples being guys like Steamboat, Mysterio, and Jeff Hardy. People may hate Cena but he's gained everyone's respect. There's no logical way Wwe can turn Cena heel without going overboard.
Cena has spent a decade of being this role model for children and ADULTS.

Also I agree with Headman. If Cena goes heel he's not taking a back seat to anyone. Owens, Rollins and who ever else at that time are going to quickly get demoted. Its not like years ago were WWE can have 2 or 3 top heels/faces at one time.

 

[t2ne]

If reigns can get over shouldn't matter. They have enough talent collectively to have more than one person carry the company. No different than when they had the two brands. They had a top guy or guys on each show. They could go that route again and make it about more than one fued or wrestler but that's wishful thinking. I think they could do an nwo type angle with cena and the unexpected turn ala Hogan. That would be awesome to see or even a main event mafia type heel group headed by cena.
There's so much talent that's in the e that collectively if they have guys relevant story lines and pushed cesaro,ziggler, ryback as the monster he should be given his look,rusev,Owens, Joe, and those coming up in nxt they would collectively sell as much or more match than the expected loss by turning cena but I think they'd sell as much or more of cena turned heel cause them he'd want to be seen and probably have the belt again without the masses complaining.
They could even do an evolution type group with him,ziggler being their Orton,setback or Corbin as their muscle and leave it at three or add a fourth but that would never happen cause these things make sense
If he does turn heel he shouldn't take a back seat to anyone as long as he changes some of his move set people will want to see him as champion again maybe even more than once or give him as lengthy run with the belt like punk had

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

If Cena turns heel, he would have to completely change his look. He would need darker ring gear, change his attitude to something like The Miz. It would also have to be done right, like at Wrestlemania and not RAW. Some posters say that Cena would have to be top heel, well.... why couldn't he align himself with top heels ? Or even start something new ... like an area in between -face- and - heel - where no WWE superstar is safe and it doesn't matter what The Authority or the universe thinks.

It would also need to be a well guarded secret. Not something everyone with a keyboard in front of them knew was coming weeks in advance. A career ending injury then off t.v for five months would help a turn work to some degree.

 

[rmp0012002]

Unless Cena really dropped off in popularity I don't ever see it happening. He's kind of plays the heel part as it is but he's a money machine as a role model and for his charity work and there's no reason to play with that. I don't see a reason to try an experiment with the mega face of your company that if it fails you might not be able to reverse.

 

[Navi]

We have one of these "John Cena Heel Turn" threads about twice a month now.

Get a grip people, it's not going to happen. John Cena is the face of the WWE. He is the top merchandise seller, and the kids come out to see him in droves. Who do you think pays for the kiddies to come see him, buy his T-shirts, hats etc, etc. That right it's Mom and Dad that fork over the cash. And they do so willingly and in great amounts. There is no way the WWE is going to give up the Cena gravy train. And Cena himself is making a fortune off the royalties.

Add in his motto's "Never Give Up' and "Hustle, Loyalty and Respect". Both of which do not benefit a top WWE heel. While he is still the top dog he will remain a face. Roman Reigns is nowhere near ready to take over the reigns (no pun intended), Daniel Bryan came close but is injured, Ambrose is just plain nuts, and Ziggler, well the boat has sailed on him.

Until Cena decides to hang up the boots, which won't be anytime soon. He will be the top draw and the biggest babyface the WWE has ever produced.

 

[Eddie]

Interestingly, there's rumours of a heel turn coming up for a major face:

http://dailywrestlingnews.com/huge-wwe-turn-coming-soon-backstage-updates-dean-ambrose/

I would've said that it'll be Reigns if anyone, although I'm not quite sure how this will fit in with the current feud he has with Wyatt (which, by the way, has to be incredible for both men to progress; both were seen as the future and now all they seem to have amounted to is the future of the mid-card bathroom break). I did wonder if they might finally turn Cena but I tend to agree with most posters that it neither makes much business sense at this point nor does there seem to be any vast need for it.

I remember seeing a Goldberg interview not long ago where he said that he absolutely hates turning heel and that it really hit home when a sick child asked him why he'd turned bad etc. Apparently he went back to WCW and demanded to be turned face again immediately. I wonder if Cena might feel a similar way. I would imagine he probably would.

One thing they could always do is the Bret Hart-style heel turn (Bret stayed loyal to his fans around the world but hated the American fans). It was as revolutionary as the Hogan heel turn without half the impact admittedly. But they've never done anything like that since. Cena could very well stay loyal to the kids but 'to all those who have booed me over the years,...' etc. I don't know if it would be as effective as if he just turned on everyone but it would certainly make a lot more sense. He'd probably end up getting cheered for showing some balls though.

 

[TDFG]

I think we all more or less agree that a heel turn would be great for Cena but it's not going to happen given Cena's merchandise sales and what he does promotion wise for WWE.

Cena ad a cocky, veteran heel against Ambrose, Reigns etc. has the potential to be gold.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

One more point for Cena turning Heel. Some posters say it will never happen because of merchandise alone. I agree to a point, but Cena merchandise will sell whatever new symbol or motto he would use as a heel. Hulkamania turned into NWO, I think that merchandise didn't suffer much. Cena merchandise could sustain a kid hit and open up to a new wave of fans like NWO Hogan merch.