can u become a wrestling legend and be in tna ur whole career?

[The Hiphopapotamus]

TNA is not a relevant company, you can't become a legend by doing a bunch of pretty flips, that's pretty much an insult to every wrestling legend. All you have to do to be a legend is work in a "high spot fest" company??????? No, there's more to it. Sorry, your answer is no.

Jesus,that's what you call an informed answer.TNA is far more than a "high spot fest company".While they do have the occasional X Division spot fest,the key there is X division.The x division is nowhere near the entire roster.Just to show:

TNA has 38 active male wrestlers.
Of those,15 wrestlers are in the X Division,with only 10 currently wrestling in it.AJ Styles,Doug Williams,Daniels,Samoa Joe and Eric Young not included.
As you can see,10 out of 38 is not the entire company,in fact it is only:

26%.
Last time I checked,that is nowhere near the entire company.Now,you can say most wrestlers are former WWE/WCW/ECW wrestlers.Well,there are 13 wrestlers in that bracket,which is:

34%.
So only 34% of the roster are veterans of other promotions.Most of these wrestlers are legends in their own right.eg Kurt Angle,Scott Steiner,Booker T,Kevin Nash.So TNA is a very relevant company,but you just seem too ignorant to comprehend that.

Ric Flair is recognized as THE best wrestler ever, and his WWE impact has been minimal at best. His NWA impact was enormous.

How is ric flair recognised as the best wrestler ever.Most would use Hulk Hogan for that.Just sayin'.

It also has to be determined WHAT makes you a legend. Until there are certain criteria needed to become a legend, then really anyone can be a legend.

That defeats the whole purpose.If anyone can be a legend,then what is the point.If there is nothing to seperate them,they cannot be called a legend.Would Bruno Sammartino be a legend?Yes.Would Sharkboy?No.

Legends can be determined by many things.Impact on the business being the main thing,in and out of the ring.You need to make an impact to be deemed a legend.

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Let me ask you guys this, would you consider Rob Van Dam to be a wrestling legend?

Not really,but he is the first man to hold both the WWE title and ECW title at the same time.That will be remembered for years to come,so many would deem him one for that.

Or better yet, would you consider Jarrett to be a legend? Or is he just the guy that WWE buried and started his own company to prove he can get people to care about him?

Yes,purely because he made a huge Impact in TNA wrestling.He built it from the ground,and to me,that's deserving of legendary status.

But there are a lot of factors that already point to TNA heading south, rather than north.

A major riff in the ranks between arguably their two biggest stars - Jarrett and Angle. One of those stars - Angle - has a contract negotiation coming up or ongoing and has reportedly given Dixie Carter an ultimatum of "it's me or Jarrett". The boys in the back are reportedly happy that the man who more or less put them on the map is AWOL (Jarrett). Their biggest PPV of the year reportedly only saw 7,000 people pay for it.

That's the type of shit you don't hear about in companies that are or become successful.

Despite all the great things TNA has accomplished in the past seven years, I'm afraid it's all going to come crashing down in the next 12 months.

If that's the case, then no one would be considered a legend for having wrestled their entire careers in TNA... even if someone like Joe or Styles never lace their boots for the WWE.

To correct what is bolded,Bound for Glory is the main Pay-per-view,TNA's wrestlemania.Slammiversary is like Summerslam.

But True,TNA is looking in bad shape at the moment.One of their biggest pay-per-views drew terribly,they're pushing too many old,soon-to-be-retired stars instead of young,home grown talent.For example,AJ Styles just dropped his belt to Kevin Nash,someone who can barely walk,never mind wrestle.Scott Steiner is crippled,but won the tag team titles.

My only fear,is that,if TNA folds,wrestlers like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles,wrestlers who could become Proffesional Wrestling legends,will never receive the credit they are due.And that would be a tragedy.

 

[Greenlight13]

I don't think you can, no. If TNA became huge in the next couple of years it wouldn't matter, all AJ's greatest accomplishments happened when they were a small-time promotion. He will be remembered as a TNA legend, but not a general wrestling legend because there are still people who watch wrestling that don't know who he is. Samoa Joe, Daniels, Beer Money, none of them will be remembered as wrestling greats unless they jump to the WWE. Look at Daniels. The man is called the King of the Indies, but you ask a casual fan about him and they won't have a clue.

It's a shame sometimes that WWE fans can't see what they're missing, because there's a hell of a lot of great alternatives out there, but at the end of the day you need to be seen by millions to be a legend, not thousands or even hundreds of thousands. You can be a local legend, you can be a company legend, but you can't be a true wrestling legend without doing something that is deemed universally significant. As Joey Styles said, a WWE World Title is THE belt.

I think it sucks because AJ is a better wrestler than almost everyone in the WWE, but he just won't get that general acclaim and recognition he deserves.

Another question to ask is can you become a wrestling legend at all in this day and age? Will people talk about the legendary John Cena in 20 years? The infamous Randy Orton? Shawn Michaels and Undertaker already are, but with the state of wrestling now, less popular than it's been in decades, can you really become a "legend"?

 

[obiwansidisi]

You have to be in WWE today to be a more recognized legend. They travel worldwide and have several television deals that offer exposure for all their talent. TNA Wrestling does not have the exposure nor do they generate the same revenue as WWE, or even close.

Ric Flair is recognized as THE best wrestler ever, and his WWE impact has been minimal at best. His NWA impact was enormous.

Did you just contradict yourself or what? Look at the Freebirds, Midnight Express, Verne Gagne, Larry Zbysko and Kevin Von Erich. What did they have to do with the WWE? TNA's box office, or how vice feels about you at the moment has nothing to do with legend status. The original ECW roster is every bit a good, if not better than WWE. Sabu... Sabu... Sabu??? Yes... Legend!!!


Flair was a hell of a showman, but the best ever???

 

[Adalam]

Everyone forgets that most if not all major feds came from NWA to begin with so it doesn't matter what fed it is, there is a chance to be a legend unless you work for some indy fed in Montana or a small promotion in Mexico (No offense to the incredible wrestlers in Mexico.) Yes, you can become a Legend in TNA but TNA needs to tell Angle and Jarrett to kiss and make up or join their version of the kiss my @$$ club.

 

[GameOver]

TNA in second in line and somewhat filled the WCW/ECW void so they are still relevant.

For me a Legend is someone that has eithger been with a company there entire career and made a huge impact or is globally known.

WWE/TNA both have there own legends that have only moved within there brand primarily, ie HBK and legends that have traveled the globe competing in different organisations around the world IE Hogan, Austin, Team 3D, Steiner to name just a few. All the Main Event Mafia are legends, they have all made a huge impact on the wrestling community over a number of decades in one form or another. That to me is a legend.

As an example - AJ Styles will be a TNA Legend for sure. He was there from the start and is still there, he's the company man much like Undertaker is for WWE. Don't see him moving anytime soon.

Now if ya asked someone who only watched WWE and did't have a clue about TNA they might not consider him a legend, that doesn't mean he isn't a legend in TNA and most smart Wrestling fanatics know who he is regardlless of whether they watch TNA or not.

So the answer would be yes they can. Wether they can be considered a wrestling legend or just a TNA legend is anyones opinion

 

[obiwansidisi]

Everyone forgets that most if not all major feds came from NWA to begin with so it doesn't matter what fed it is, there is a chance to be a legend unless you work for some indy fed in Montana or a small promotion in Mexico (No offense to the incredible wrestlers in Mexico.) Yes, you can become a Legend in TNA but TNA needs to tell Angle and Jarrett to kiss and make up or join their version of the kiss my @$$ club.

Yes... yes... yes... OMG!!! Someone finally gets it. WWE isn't part of the NWA. it's a side company... it just happens to be a very large wage earning company.

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Can you name a legendary player of any professional sport who did not play in the highest professional league, other than those who were founding players or played prior to a professional league? I'm going to bet most people probably cannot.

Now, I can happen to name a few legendary basketball players that never played in the NBA and if you asked anyone from Michael Jordan to LeBron James to Dr.J who Earl "The Goat" Manigault is I bet you they would know who he is...but most "regular" people don't. if he lived today I think it would be impossible for him to gain stature unless he did play in the NBA. We live in a different time where most sports have a premier league/federation etc...you either have to be at the top or bring where you are to the top and that's just not happening in TNA at this point. It's very likely, if everything in sports states as it is now, if you don't play in the NBA you will not be a legendary bball player, if you don't play in the NFL you will not be a legendary football player and the way UFC is going, if you don't fight in UFC you will probably not be legendary in MMA. The point is that until you prove yourself against the best you cannot be the best (to be the man...).

If TNA doesn't go any further than they are now, then no I don't think that anyone would be considered a wrestling legend. AJ Styles is great. I don't think that any wrestler will say he's not a good worker. But is he legendary...probably not. He's had a bunch of great matches but nothing I'd consider legendary. He doesn't necessarily have to become a household name, but he just has not transcended the sport.

I think right now that a lot of TNA fans might say it's possible, but unless there are big changes...I doubt it.

 

[Shock]

Hate to burst the bubble here but AJ Styles and Joe both started in the WWE. Does that deflate the whole debate?

People like you piss me off. Just because AJ Styles and Samoa Joe had one or two matches in WWE doesn't mean they started there. It doesn't mean they came from WWE. Neither one of their times in WWE are really noticeable. Their real, noted beginning was each of their long runs in Ring of Honor wrestling, in my opinion. So listen. People need to stop saying that AJ and Joe started in WWE like Kurt, Nash, etc. They didn't. They had one or two matches, so shut it about that.

As for being a legend, why not? Why is TNA not relevant? Is TNA not a major wrestling corporation now? They're absolutely major. Are they not televised? Are they not second behind WWE? I hate people like you who think TNA is nothing, therefore people can't be good if they're from it. It's like the ROH haters. People like Styles and Joe in TNA and Brian Danielson and Austin Aries in ROH are phenomenal wrestlers, and work their asses off to please the audience and become legends and great wrestlers. But now just because of the company they're in, because it's not WWE, you think they can't be legends? I take pity on your sad, misguided soul.

 

[obiwansidisi]

Can you name a legendary player of any professional sport who did not play in the highest professional league, other than those who were founding players or played prior to a professional league? I'm going to bet most people probably cannot.

Now, I can happen to name a few legendary basketball players that never played in the NBA and if you asked anyone from Michael Jordan to LeBron James to Dr.J who Earl "The Goat" Manigault is I bet you they would know who he is...but most "regular" people don't. if he lived today I think it would be impossible for him to gain stature unless he did play in the NBA. We live in a different time where most sports have a premier league/federation etc...you either have to be at the top or bring where you are to the top and that's just not happening in TNA at this point. It's very likely, if everything in sports states as it is now, if you don't play in the NBA you will not be a legendary bball player, if you don't play in the NFL you will not be a legendary football player and the way UFC is going, if you don't fight in UFC you will probably not be legendary in MMA. The point is that until you prove yourself against the best you cannot be the best (to be the man...).

If TNA doesn't go any further than they are now, then no I don't think that anyone would be considered a wrestling legend. AJ Styles is great. I don't think that any wrestler will say he's not a good worker. But is he legendary...probably not. He's had a bunch of great matches but nothing I'd consider legendary. He doesn't necessarily have to become a household name, but he just has not transcended the sport.

I think right now that a lot of TNA fans might say it's possible, but unless there are big changes...I doubt it.

Yeah, but 3 things...

1) WWE is not all that... it's a side company, not part of the NWA or IGWP... it just happens to be big because McMahon is a marketing genious. Bigger isn't always better. Vince doesn't get to decide who or what a legend is. For all of the work that Macho Man has done, Vince won't even speak to him... so what, he doesn't deserve to be a legend some day? A lot of you keep looking at it from WWE's point of view, that's unfair...

2) TNA or any company has nothing to do with the individual... Lance Storm, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Mil Mascaras... did they make the company, or did the company make them?...

3) AJ, Homiide, Joe, Daniels, Young, Roode are still young... they aren't even as good as they think they are yet. You've got to give them time, TNA is only 7 years old...

 

[jscthegreat]

How is TNA not relevant? And really "a bunch of pretty flips" that pretty much somes up Rey Mysterio more than it does any TNA performer.

You sound dumb. hahaha. I hate Rey Mysterio with a passion but for once i guess i can defend him. His style is lucha libre. They are high octane fast paced wrestling. If you notice that fool never flips. I've seen him do one moonsault in the past 4 or 5 months. He includes all the ring in his arsonal of moves including mainly the ropes. TNA is flips, jumps, and tons of spots (that are botched 80% of the time) just to keep the fans attention (hmmmmmmmmm sounds like CZW with TV time hahaha). If you say AJ styles in a conversation most people will think yea he'll be great in WWE, say Christopher Daniels and Samoa Joe, people think man why aren't they in the WWE. TNA is a stepping stone to legend status (ask Jeff Hardy) so therefore it ain't gonna make a legend.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I don't really think TNA is a stepping stone to legend status. I mean, yes Jeff Hardy was in TNA briefly, then he won the WHC years later. I don't think the other TNA talent has done so well. Does anyone remember Chris Harris' stint as Braden Walker? Gail Kim has just started being used, and R Truth has been jobbing on Smackdown for the past year.

Christian is the only talent from TNA that has a decent spot in WWE, if you call ECW Champion decent. I'm glad Dainels, Joe, and AJ Styles aren't in WWE for now. I think they would probably be misused. I just hope that the ROH guys get a good chance to shine in WWE. TNA is too young to have wrestling legends created just yet. Maybe someday it will happen though.