Can killing be justified

[Blue Chipper]

Iv'e heard numerous claims that killing can be justified, namely in court cases. Reasonings that individuals say killing can be pardoned include the murderer having an uncontrollably unsatisfactory and faulty living enviornment, most notably as a child. They state that the murderer is flooded around negative influences and individuals reeling him into wrong paths, with no guidence from their parents. Oftentimes, the parents themesleves are said to be an awfully large contributing cause. Furthermore, usually, they claim that the murderer doesn't have a proper education and lives/lived in great poverty. Thus, they can't make rationale decisions, and the decisions they make are directly linked to their up bringing and should be slowly excused. My thoughts on the subject will likely be shared later.

Well, killing should be pardoned if the individual is mentally deficient, obviously, but my question is, can a person without a mental insufficiency be excused for killing someone? How about if they had a just motive? How about if all they've experienced was chaos? How about if they've been inhospitablely swayed and influenced their entire life?

 

[JenovasWitness]

Touchy subject, but I can hardly fault someone for killing in the defense of their own life or in the defense of their loved ones. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. If someone broke into my house and wanted to do harm to either my wife or my children, I would not hesitate to put a slug into the murderous bastard. If I could avoid killing him and just incapacitate him so that the cops can drag him/her away, all the better, but I would take whatever steps were necessary to ensure my family's safety.

 

[gd]

I agree, the only way it would be justified other than if you had a mental problem would be if either your life or the lives of others were at risk. Aside from that, there really is no other reason. Even if the other person is a complete asshole that stole of your money and had sex with your wife, you shouldn't resort to killing them. Even some of the worst people in the world don't deserve to be murdered.

 

[Spaceman Spif]

It can be justified. That's why they have justifiable homicide laws. Certain issues do allow for the life of another to be taken. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger if someone was threatning my wife's or my family's life with death. I would kill in defense and only in defense.

However I also do believe in the death penalty. Some crimes are so atrocious, that the person who committed them, deserves to be punished by death. Could I personally throw the switch? I do not know, but I do know sometimes it has to be done, sometimes a life sentence just is not enough at all to punish some crimes.

 

[HBK-aholic]

If someone broke into my home and were a thread to my child I'd do everything possible to make sure they had to chance of hurting her. If that meant their life ended, well that's there own fault. They shouldn't have been in my house looking to hurt my family. At the end of the day, while I've never killed anyone to know what I'd feel like afterwards, I'd do ANYTHING possible to keep my child safe. And yes, that's completely justifiable. Probably not in England, I'd be put in jail for murder for "Breaching the rights of the poor innocent person". Eugh.

 

[Mrs Sexy]

can a person without a mental insufficiency be excused for killing someone? How about if they had a just motive? How about if all they've experienced was chaos? How about if they've been inhospitablely swayed and influenced their entire life?

I don't believe they can or should be excused for killing...UNLESS it's self defense. Killing someone is horrible no matter what the circumstances, but if the person that is killed was trying to hurt or kill the other person first, then I believe it's excusable.
But if the killer is out to do it with a just motive, they should get punished for it. The way they were brought up should have nothing to do with their thoughts of killing. What would be the point? Just because they had bad morals and had an extremely rough life, doesn't mean the answer is to go out and kill someone.

 

[Big J]

Only in the case of self defense of your life, your family or someone else.

Enviroment isn't an excuse. EVERY ghetto, no matter how bad, has sucess stories along with the tragic stories.

 

[HEEL Blazy]

I agree with everyone here. If someone is trying to hurt you or your family you should have the right to do what ever it takes to keep you and them safe. It its killing them then oh well they shouldn't be messing with you or your family. I know if someone tried killing me or my family members I'd kill them.

 

[blood and thunder]

no, not really. apart from self defense/defense of others. but not for flat out revenge. otherwise we might as well just do away with law altogether and operate on a vigilante basis.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

As stated by others, self defense is the likely excuse, Killing in all forms is wrong, it should never happen, but it does say in the quran that you can kill someone in self defence, you will have to confey your surrow and go to the mosk to pray and cleanse yourself of all wrong doing.

Emotionally i think anyone who kills would feel remorse for their actions, I know i would, but if anyone attempted to threaten my family or the lives of those i care about i wouldn't hesitate, in this country people abuse laws to suite their own needs, you have criminals suing people for getting injured whilst attempting to rob them in their own homes, people who attempted to defend themselves go to jail for protecting their homes, its kind of screwed up.

But i for one would be prepared to go to jail for the ones i love.

 

[Big J]

Somone mentioned that if he wouldn't hesitate to put a slug in the bastard, but if he could just wound him until the cops got there that would be better.

I don't know, if the person is trying to kill your family you should probably try to kill them. CHances are he has done it before and would do it again.

If the person is dead they can't hurt you or anyone else EVER again.

 

[Razor]

Well, killing should be pardoned if the individual is mentally deficient

I wouldn't say that. Unless the mental deficiency made it impossible for them to understand right from wrong. If a person with Downs Syndrome understands right from wrong and still kills someone, they should be put to jail. End of discussion.

can a person without a mental insufficiency be excused for killing someone?

Self-defense, pretty much. But then again, if you were to talk to a strict Pacifist they would said no.

How about if they had a just motive?

Other than self-defense, the justice system shouldn't be condoning revenge or any other motive. This isn't Gotham, and you're not Batman.

How about if all they've experienced was chaos?

Then you have two possible outcomes:

1) You don't know right from wrong. Then there you go, you're stuck in a mental health facility for the of your days.

2) You do know killing is wrong, you just do it anyway. That's life in jail, dude.

How about if they've been inhospitablly swayed and influenced their entire life?

Then you wouldn't know the difference between right and wrong, and you'd be let off the hook.

 

[Wrath]

Yes it can. Taking someone's life is not a good thing but I'm actually a cold man and think even execution is a good punishment at times. As for killing yes killing can be easily justified in Turkish laws if you someone tries to kill you and you have no where else to run or escape you can kill someone for self defense.

I just want to give an another situation for justifying killing think that you and your 2 two friends are climbing a mountain if the rope that you use the climb the mountain is not enough to hold 3 of your weights and if you don't cut the rope you'll all go down you can cut the rope to save yourself and it can be justified.

Killing also can be justified by saving someone other's life. Just think that someone pulled a gun on your wife's head and you also have a gun on your hand if he tries to kill your wife you have no choice but shoot him. If you don't shoot him your wife is gonna be dead so it can be justified as well.

So yes killing can be justified if you do it for saving an another life.