Bound For Glory 2014 To Be Held In Tokyo

[klunderbunker]

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/tna...lory_Announcement_Today_In_New_York_City.html

Today in New York City, Dixie Carter announced that Bound For Glory 2014 will be held in.....Tokyo. Seriously, the show is being held at Korakuen Hall on October 12, 2014.

This is a very big surprise as major PPVs almost never happen outside of the continental US/North America. If my memory serves me right, the last one was Summerslam 1992.

Thoughts on this?

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Wow. That's my thoughts.

That's fuckin' insane. Ballsy ass move. I mean, TNA has always seen tremendous support out of Japan, and have numerous stars who are going to be drooling over the opportunity to perform out of Tokyo, but man, what's the time difference going to look like trying to broadcast a PPV out of Japan in the U.S.?

Capacity according to Wiki is 2,005 seats, which is a little small, but if it's filled to the max, which it probably will be, will still broadcast just fine.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Could be a real money spinner. If you can't get big PPV buys in the US, holding your biggest event in Japan with cross promotion with a Japanese icon in Keiji Mutoh could well be the smartest move in their history.

 

[Thriller Ant]

Wow. That's my thoughts.

That's fuckin' insane. Ballsy ass move. I mean, TNA has always seen tremendous support out of Japan, and have numerous stars who are going to be drooling over the opportunity to perform out of Tokyo, but man, what's the time difference going to look like trying to broadcast a PPV out of Japan in the U.S.?

Capacity according to Wiki is 2,005 seats, which is a little small, but if it's filled to the max, which it probably will be, will still broadcast just fine.

It's a bit small, but it is the MSG of puro. Running a show there is a big deal.

This is risky, but this definitely has me intrigued. It gives TNA an opportunity to use some talents from Muta's company and run in front of a crowd that should be legit excited to see the company live. I'm giving TNA a cautious thumbs up here.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Really? I think that's pretty cool actually. This makes TNA almost appear original for the first time in a long time.

Hopefully they utalise Japanese talent and make the show a TNA supershow whilst at the same time having a bit of When Worlds Collide about it.

 

[Tyrant25]

This is not a risk worth taking.

Dixie Carter makes decisions way too soon. She does things without thinking about the long term effects, and this is just another example. If TNA wants Bound for Glory to air at 8 PM in the United States, they'll either have to pre-tape the event or tape it at 9 AM on a Monday. Basically, their two options are they can pre-tape it and risk spoilers, more than likely guaranteed, or they can try to convince the fans in Tokyo to adjust their schedule to attend a wrestling event at 9 AM on a Monday.

I don't know how TNA can work this one. This is something you do on free television, NOT with your biggest Pay-Per-View in the year. I applaud TNA for doing something different, but in my opinion, it won't work. It can't work.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

It's an interesting idea in theory but I seriously question this decision.

For one doing this event in Japan all but guarantee's this will be the lowest attended BFG event besides the very 1st one in '05 since it the venue only holds 2,005 people, so that means (in theory at least) that they will make less money at the event itself (between the gate, merch, ect.) unless they jack up prices.

Secondly, the cost of running TNA Bound For Glory goes up exponentially since they are holding the event thousands of miles away from their home base. Unless they hold a tour in Japan leading up to BFG they will be hemorrhaging money by doing this. Although I'm not Dixie's accountant but I have my doubts this will end well financially, especially considering the costs are up and the amount of money they'll make will be most likely down from what it would usually be.

Thirdly, PPV buy rates? We are talking about a significant delay in when BFG airs, which means most people in the States (or England) will know the results before the event starts which will give less motivation to order the event (unless reviews are so good people just HAVE to watch this show). If they don't do a delay and air it live I can't imagine too many people staying up until roughly 4-5 AM to watch Bound For Glory.

Lastly, why take this risk? I can't imagine TNA gaining anything significant by doing this move, it seems like a risk that is completely unneeded.

All in all if TNA wants to successfully pull this off they better have a great plan in place, they better promote the living fuck out of this event in Japan, South Korea, India, ect. if they have any legit shot of turning this into a success. It can certainly be done, its just not probably and call me a cynic but TNA hasn't given me much reason to think they can pull this off properly.

 

[ajdb]

People worried about the time difference, fret ye not!

To have the show live in the States on Oct. 12th, the show would start at 9am in Tokyo on Monday the 13th.

Monday October 13th, is a non-working holiday in Japan. What else better to do with your day then go to TNA's biggest show of the year. Maybe the concession stand could serve breakfast or something.

 

[T2KFreeker]

I'm actually kind of loving this. Totally Ballsy move from TNA and unexpected. I hope it doesn't backfire as it will give BFG an entirely different feel than previous years. As for the questions of advertising and the like, the fact that Muta announced this with Dixie Carter tells me that something else is coming up. Reminds me of the "Global Impact" days. Those shows from Japan wee actually very good and fun to watch. Something to look forward to. I have a feeling that there will be some kind of tour or whatnot leading into the show, so I have much enthusiasm going into this. "IF" TNA does this right, it could be a move that brings many more fans to the table, which helps things out. We shall see. Thus far, the announcement is a good thing because it has generated Buzz that the company needs and is thinking outside the box.

 

[Lowdown]

This is interesting. Considering the time difference I wonder how TNA is gonna pull this off. One of the positives going in is the match possibilities. Something else to consider: are they doing the BFG series again? It's an irrelevant question but something I'm curious about.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

In one of the more interesting bits of information coming from the TNA/Wrestle-1 Bound for Glory announcement today, the show will be taking place on the same day as a NJPW iPPV and will be happening in the same arena. TNA will be running Bound for Glory in the afternoon and NJPW will be running it in the night. There are no plans for TNA and NJPW to do business as NJPW took a strong dislike to TNA after their last dealings which included them dressing Okada who was one of their brightest prospects up in a Kato costume from The Green Hornet which was said to be the "last straw" for NJPW officials. This could go one of two ways, either the show will gain more ticket sales from this due to the NJPW show being on later in the day or it will suffer because NJPW is the top promotion in Japan and TNA's show airs in Japan at 1AM on a Saturday night and outside their co-promotional shows with Japanese promotions they aren't too well recognized. Take into the costs that'll be going into this show such as getting flights and travel permits for their talent, shipping production equipment, promoting now not only in America but also Japan and this is a big risk on TNA's part.

They booked Korakuen Hall in Tokyo which may I add, only holds 2,000 people (to be fair that's smart, because they can barely draw 2,000 in America, nevermind Japan) on the same day as New Japan is holding a show which for a Japanese crowd will be much bigger and more recognized, when Pro Wrestling NOAH which has a strong TV deal, is seen as the second biggest promotion in Japan and has more recognizable talent has difficulty selling it out? It's ballsy, might be too ballsy. Otherwise, way to create some noise and be different.

 

[Trill Co$by]

I think they should've gone with a PPV in England first. But either way, this is something TNA could use to put themselves in competition with WWE. Not much competition, but still competition. I'm not sure about their awareness in Japan, but I do know Austin Aries had some great stints there. MVP was just [I believe] NJPW Intercontinental Champion, so there's recognition there. And the American Wolves have also been in Japan. So they've got names that people will come out to see, and they've been in Japan before with Global Impacts.

As for taping the PPV, I don't think it would be too much of a problem. They probably have calculated all of this, so who knows... maybe they have that figured out by now. I also would like to say that I'm a big fan of taking risks.

 

[ajdb]

They booked Korakuen Hall in Tokyo which may I add, only holds 2,000 people (to be fair that's smart, because they can barely draw 2,000 in America, nevermind Japan) on the same day as New Japan is holding a show which for a Japanese crowd will be much bigger and more recognized, when Pro Wrestling NOAH which has a strong TV deal, is seen as the second biggest promotion in Japan and has more recognizable talent has difficulty selling it out? It's ballsy, might be too ballsy. Otherwise, way to create some noise and be different.

Some things we need to straighten out. Korakuen Hall is a big deal to Japanese wrestling. Outside of the Dome it's probably the mecca of Japanese wrestling.

Plus, I consider NOAH 3rd behind NJPW & AJPW. Much more history in those 2 companies. Up and coming...yes...second biggest promotion in Japan. No.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Some things we need to straighten out. Korakuen Hall is a big deal to Japanese wrestling. Outside of the Dome it's probably the mecca of Japanese wrestling.

Plus, I consider NOAH 3rd behind NJPW & AJPW. Much more history in those 2 companies. Up and coming...yes...second biggest promotion in Japan. No.

In terms of business and TV deal, NOAH is in a much better place than AJPW currently. Neither are flying high mind you, but outside of NJPW no Japanese wrestling promotion really is. Wrestle-1 isn't getting much acclaim and DDT is felt to be very niche, which it is. So my ranking stands. NJPW, NOAH, AJPW then Wrestle-1 or DDT.

 

[Reflection]

Anything will be better than last year's PPV, and they would never want to repeat that nightmare. Like the saying goes, "fortune favours the brave". People in Japan must have heard about TNA, and they will flock in to watch it since this is something new and you don't know if it will happen again. If TNA impresses the people with the quality of their show, it will only bring in positive outcomes for them in the long run. When you escape a near-death situation, you become stronger. I think TNA has become stronger now than it was in the last 5 years.

 

[roipdh123]

It has the potential to be the greatest Bound For Glory in TNA's history by far as long as they build it correctly.

But about the fact that it is in Tokyo it will be great to see a wrestling company airing their biggest PPV from Japan as long as they can do it Live and not have it pre tape because of the hour differences.

 

[WBL]

At this point, I'm just scared that we'll be talking about this PPV in the same breath as such previous PPV greats as WCW's "The Big Bang" and ECW's "Living Dangerously 2001".

 

[AzLunchbox]

So does the way Bound for Glory has been handled this year worry anyone else?

I mean we went from having TNAs version of WrestleMania, to having an inter-promotional show with no hype or advertising. I mean the matches for the show weren't even announced till 4 days before it. Now tonight we get a bunch of matches with wrestle-1 people that TNA hasn't even tried to introduce for the most part. Tajiri and Muta sure.......maybe even Kaz Hayashi due to his WCW time. But the rest are virtual unknowns to American wrestling fans.

So why should we care about these matches?

Then as far as I can tell, there's not even a world title match booked! What the hell is this!? I was excited that they were doing it in Japan, but they've totally dropped the ball here. They're treating it like a throw away "One night only" ppv.

Then they do things like having The Hardys Dudleys and Wolves in a "Can't call it TLC" Match on the show BEFORE their big ppv? And now the big match we get on PPV is Team 3D Vs Dreamer and Abyss? WHAT!?

Sorry for the rant, But I'm a TNA fan. I want to see them succeed. I always ignore the "TNA WILL BE CLOSED ANY DAY" people. But this really doesn't look good for them. I will probably still get the PPV to help support them, but for this show....I have been let down as a fan.

 

[thebarber]

people are forgettiong TNA lost their TV deal and their priority for survival is finding a new home to air their product. No TV equals no TNA. Look at WCW, with no tv time to air their product, they died.
Bound for Glory was booked when the tv deal was still in place, but many thingws changed and thus they had to run as many tapings to air on the remainder of their contract, so the shows they have taped have been made tyo impress prospective networks to take the chance on TNA and air on their networks. Thus why giys who are either not locked in to contracts have had titles taken away and put on guys who are contracted to the company long term. TNA need to get a new tv deal and go back to doing what made them, innovative and different to WWE, not a sad poor imitation,.