Best Feud Participant of All Time

Best Feud Participant of All Time

  • Hulk Hogan

  • Randy Savage

  • Steve Austin

  • Mick Foley

  • Shawn Michaels

  • The Sandman

  • Raven

  • Ric Flair

  • Bret Hart

  • Other


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Going on 10 years with WrestleZone
Several different things can capture a professional wrestling fan. Maybe it's the fireworks and flashyness. Maybe the thrill of competition. Maybe the humor.

Whatever it is, most people are, at one point, enthralled by the existance of a great feud. Feuds are the lifeblood that give ordinary wrestling matches life. They pit two good athletes and make the clash an epic. And in wrestling history, a few men have found themselves at the forefront of great feuds more than one. What I want to know is - who is the best at feuding?

Below is a list, and of course, the famous IC25 poll is available. 9 options, plus "Other." This is a great chance to sit down and write about your feelings on the great feuds of all time, and how they bind a wrestler to their legacy.

1. Hulk Hogan. Everyone was gunning for this man, trying to be the one to "kill Hulkamania." Great feuds include: vs Andre the Giant, vs Randy Savage, vs Sgt. Slaughter, vs Sid Justice, vs Sting, vs The Rock.

2. Randy Savage. Whether the Man or the King, "Macho Madness" was a term Randy often took very literally in his feuds. Great feuds include: vs Ricky Steamboat, vs Hulk Hogan, vs Ultimate Warrior, vs Jake Roberts, vs Ric Flair.

3. Steve Austin. Stone Cold has been in more than his share of great contests, but many of those contests were the result of his ability to polarize an audience and create a story. Great feuds include: vs Brian Pillman, vs Ricky Steamboat, vs Vince McMahon, vs The Rock, vs Kurt Angle, vs HHH, vs The Undertaker.

4. Mick Foley. Cactus Manfoleykind. His hardcord style and awesome mic work made him a natural fit for some classics. Great feuds include: vs ECW Fans, vs Vader, vs Kevin Sullivan, vs HHH, vs The Rock, vs The Undertaker.

5. Shawn Michaels. HBK has seen more ups and downs that a porn star in his time, but this born again has also created some classic battles. Great feuds include: vs Marty Jannetty, vs Bret Hart, vs Diesel, vs HHH, vs Hulk Hogan, vs Randy Orton, vs Vince McMahon.

6. The Sandman. Was the beer swilling working class hero before Austin made it cool. Once had his own son call him a drunk and shut himself in for weeks to create kayfabe. Classic feuds include: vs Tommy Dreamer, vs Tommy Cairo, vs Cactus Jack, vs Shane Douglas, vs Raven, vs Sabu, vs The Dudleyz, vs Public Enemy.

7. Raven. New Jersey's own. Went from spoiled manager Johnny Polo to the misanthropic man we know today. Great feuds include: Tommy Dreamer, The Sandman, vs Perry Saturn, vs Jeff Jarrett, vs James Mitchell.

8. Ric Flair. The Dirtiest Player in the Game, and the leader of the greatest heel faction of all time. Great feuds include: vs Ricky Steamboat, vs Buddy Rogers, vs Roddy Piper, vs Dusty Rhodes, vs Magnum TA, vs Sting, vs Hulk Hogan, vs Randy Savage, vs Curt Henning, vs Eric Bichoff, vs Vince McMahon.

9. Bret Hart. Tough call choosing my 9th name for the poll, but the Excellence of Execution gets the nod. Great feuds include: vs Curt Henning, vs The Mountie, vs Shawn Michaels, vs Jerry Lawler, vs Owen Hart, vs Steve Austin, vs Vince McMahon.

As always, if you select the "Other" option, please provide details and enlighten us as to why one of these 9 listed should take a back seat to your write-in. Have fun!!!
 
I voted Shawn Micheals simply because all of those other names are pretty much from a single generation during their primes, but Shawn Micheals has been on top of his game all along, and he's feuded with the best of the best of all time.
 
My vote goes to other, with the other being HHH. He has had so many feuds in the WWE/F that have produced some of the greatest matches of the past 10 years or so. His notable feuds were vs. The Rock, The Hart Foundation (earlyDX days), Vince McMahon, The Undertaker, Kane, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Mick Foley and Kurt Angle. HHH can work the mic like no other and beat his opponents down with his signature weapon the sledge hammer. He was a part of the most popular and influential faction in WWE history in D-X and also a member of Evolution. Those two factions alone produced many great feuds and matches. His notable matches are: Summerslam Ladder match for the IC title vs. The Rock and his Streetfight vs. Mick Foley at the Royal Rumble. He has held the WWE title 6 times, the World Heavyweight title 5 times, the IC title 5 times, the European title 2 times and the tag titles once with Stone Cold Steve Austin. In my opinion, HHH hands down the best feud participant of all time.
 
I wanted to vote for Flair, but even this Flair man has to go with Austin. The way he carried the feud with McMahon, the ones with Hart/ Rock. I give him the notch over Flair. Flair had better matches but Austin better feuds.
 
My vote went to Stone Cold, the fueds i saw with him wee absolutely amazing. Granted his great feuds are what got me into wrestling. His feud with the rock is one of the all-time greats. Two great workers, both great on the microphone, both great in the ring. They had such great chemistry when in the ring together they're matches were smooth and told a great story.

His feud with triple h was awesome as well. From throwing triple h into that room with the rattlesnake. To the Zero-tolerance rule to where they couldnt even touch each other, it made the fued even more great. And who could forget the survivor series moment where he dropped triple h upside down in the car. Their 2 out of 3 falls match was crazy.

But the feud that will always stick with austin is the one he had with Mcmahon. What wrestling fan that saw that fued could ever forget it. They put each other through so much hell over the course of about 2 or 3 years and no one ever got tired of it, they all wanted to see what kind of crazy stuff they would do to each other next. From their cage match at St. Valintines Day Massacre, to the zamboni, to the beer truck, to the kidnappng of Vince McMahon, it was all amazing, one of the best, if not the BEST feuds ever. Then no one ever saw it coming when Austin did the unthinkable and turned heel by joining Vince, completely unexpected. Austin's been in two of the greatest feuds of all time in my opinion. One with The Rock, and the monster one with Vince Mcmahon
 
Where's Triple h? I mean he had feuds with every big name in the industry and won the majority of them,so I think that he should be the best feud participant of all time
 
after much deliberation, I had to go with Stone cold. His rivalry with the rock was hilarious, and brilliant, two great mic workers, and some very good matches. Of course there is the rivalry with Mcmahon, which was a watershed, era changing rivalry, which defined the attitude era.

My personal favorite rivalry though, was his one with Bret Hart. Awesome matches between these guys, and an amzing job of having two different kinds of eras of wrestling clashing. Following the rules, technical skill, old fashioned respect, against brawling, cursing, middle fingers in your face attitude. Just amazing. It blurred the lines of Kayfabe, I really did think these guys hated each other, and might kill each other lol...There was a match/sequence on RAW, which is indelliably stuck in my memory. Stone Cold came to the ring, and challeneged bret to just a straight up fight. Bret kept him waiting throught the commercial break, and FINALLY came to the ring. The look on Austins face when Brets music hit, is oe of the classic images in WWE history. This led to an incredible, brutal unsanctioned brawl, were Austin brutalized Bret. The EMTs then put bret in the back of an ambulence...being hijacked by none other than Steve Austin, who turned around from the drivers seat and manically yells "I told ya we were goin straight to hell!!!!"....gosh DAMN they just dont make TV like that anymore....

an honorable mention to Hulkster VS Slaughter...the heat in that one was so intense that they had to move it from an outside stadium to an indoor arena, fr the match, becuase Slaughter had recieved such a high volume of DEATH THREATS lol
 
The Rock, for his feuds with Austin, Angle, Jericho and for the times like during the invasion with jericho and the Corporate Ministry with Austin where he and another could feud against multiple amounts of people and still come off better! Also his feuds with Foley were classics!!
 
I'm going with Hulk Hogan because he had classic feuds over a 20 year span, from Roddy Piper to Shawn Michaels. In between we had Paul Orndorff, King Kong Bundy, Andre the Giant, Randy Savage, Sergeant Slaughter, Big Boss Man, Ric Flair, and Sting.
 
Stone Cold...he changed the whole industry with McMahon fued and I can't remember a Stone Cold fued, story, or match that wasn't entertaining.
 
Im a little torn here. I think that a fued can be great without having particularly stunning matches.

As far as great fueds wth quality matches go..id pick Michaels. His fueds were great in every aspect. The promos and the matches delivered. The fueds always seemed really personal as opposed to great competition.

But story telling wise..i'd go with Austin. There is a reason he was at the forefront of the attitude era. The man can tell a story like no other. Knowing wrestling was scripted, he still made me believe that there was un unearthly hatred between him and McMahon. captivating television.
 
I'd have to go with Michaels. I choose his based on the in ring work, he has provided some great matches when his fueds were at there pinnicle (Angle) and is also great on the mic, his in ring ability gives him a slight edge of Austin in this one.
 
Although I am not really a huge fan of his, I have to respect the feuds that Hulk Hogan has had throughout the years. The this doesn't have anything to do with being the greatest participant of a feud and having the best matches. I don't even have to discuss how Hogan wrestles, I think you all know. It is about the story, the feelings that are drawn out of the feud. Some of Hogan's best fueds contained terrible matches.
Also, Hogan feuds are a "who's" who among wreslters:Roddy Piper, Andre the Giant, Randy Savage, Mr. Perfect, Earthquake, Sgt. Slaughter, Sting, Goldberg, Flair, Michaels, The Rock, Warrior, Bundy etc
He has done it all in terms of heel and face feuds stringing out the emtional aspect. Whether you love him or hate him (and I am not the biggest fan) I have to respect him for what he has done and the feuds that he was in.
 
WOW! First off, thank you to everyone for supporting this thread. I;m glad it's a source of such debate.

As such, I am going to throw fuel on the fire with my vote, and I defy anybody to take me on.

The greatest feud participant of all time is...

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First of all, let's start with the Intercontinental Championship. Savage won the belt from Tito Santana and defended it in feuds with George "The Animal Steele" and Bruno Sammartino. While the Bruno feud isn't legend, the Steele feud is fairly well-known.

From there, Savage took a memorable leap off the top rope with the ring bell, crushing the larynx of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat. That move helped solidify Randy's monicre of "Savage" and took Steamboat out of action for a while. When Wrestlemania 3 rolled around, the result was one of the greatest matches in wrestling history. After 19 two-counts, and with a little help from George Steele, Steamboat extracted his revenge and defeated Randy for the IC Belt. The match, and the feud, were awesome.

With Savage turning babyface, he started feuds with Honky Tonk Man and Jimmy Hart, as well as The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase. This is why I think so highly of him - Savage could often hold 3 or 4 feuds at once. He teamed with Hulk Hogan to form the Mega Powers, setting the stage for the biggest roller coaster relationship in WWF to that date. Savage defeated DiBiase at Wrestlemania 4 for the WWF Title.

Randy, with all of his abilities, managed to hold the WWF Title and go from being the company's #2 face to #1 heel in a matter of months. In an ironic display of foreshadowing, Savage got insanely jealous of Hogan's relationship with Ms. Elizabeth and turned on Hulk. The result was one of the biggest feuds in wrestling history, spanning almost an entire year. At Wrestlemania 5, with the tag line "The Mega Powers Explode," Hogan beat Savage for the WWF Title.

Savage's next high profile feud (after a forgettable one with Jim Duggan) was with Dusty Rhodes. The Macho King vs the Common Man. The feud was an absolute classic, ALMOST reincarnating the passion of Rhodes vs The Horsemen from NWA/WCW. Though no titles were involved, with Hogan having a high profile match with The Ultimate Warrior, it may have been the biggest feud in the WWF at the time.

Then, the Ultimate Warrior saga. Attacking Warrior and costing him the WWF Title against Sgt. Slaughter at the Royal Rumble, Savage set himself into another HUGE feud, this time at Wrestlemania 7. While many say the Hogan vs Slaughter feud was the biggest rivalry in wrestling at that time, Savage vs Warrior was a close 2nd, and in their case, careers were on the line. In an awesome match, Warrior defeated and retired Savage.

While one might figure that would end Savage's run as a main guy in the WWF, his sabbatical did not last. Denied entry to the Savage bachelor party, Jake Roberts placed a snake in a wedding gift at Savage and Liz's wedding, and then week later had a huge Cobra bite Savage on the arm. I remember being legit freaked out by that, and the fact that Savage took that amazes me. I know the snake was devenomized, but the vision of Savage's bloody arm is unmatched. Lobbying for reinstatement, Savage went on to face Roberts in a series of matches, one of which featured Roberts slapping Elizabeth in the face.

Long post? Yes. Not done yet, because now we get to Ric Flair. Named the #1 contender from the Royal Rumble after Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice started a feud, Ric Flair tried to get in Savage's head by starting rumors of a fling with Liz and even threatened to show a centerfold of her at Wrestlemania 8. The resulting main event was amazing, one of the greatest WWF Title matches in history. Savage won a bloody battle, and the feud continued for a few months until Savage's departure.

I will spare all of you further proof of Savage's feud superiority with his WCW days and leave it here. But Randy Savage is THE greatest feud participant of all time, because sometimes, all a feud needs is a little Madness.
 
We forot about Jerry"The King"Lawler.Back in his hey day in Memphis he feuded with Savage,Funk,Dundee,Hogan,ich,Idol,Valiant,Sid,Patera,Bockwinkle,Gilbert,Rhodes,Graham,Briscoe-almost too many to list.I'm sure I cn't remember them all.All these feuds played out to sold out crowds.
 
I voted for Shawn Michaels from the list in terms of most spectacular fueds of all time.

However, I'd give the nod to Triple H in terms of being able to do solid Feuds over and over and over again. Shawn had more memorable fueds, but Hunter could pop them out in succession. Rare is the Feud I've seen with Hunter that was boring. You might hate the Katie Vick angle, but every last one of you remembers it. Few of his feuds are terrible. The only ones we really forget are the minor ones to get through a weak month or two. The HHH/Y2J feud culminating at Wrestlemania was one of the most emotional victories I ever watched.
 
Let's see...

Hogan vs. Piper created Wrestlemania

Hogan vs. Andre was the most anticipated main-event match ever.

Hogan vs. Savage was the feud between the two former biggest draws

Hogan vs. Warrior is one of the biggest matches ever

Hogan vs. Slaughter was rumored to be moved in venues because people hated Slaughter so much (not sure I believe that, but it's a rumor).

Hogan vs. Flair was a feud that existed for over ten years and a feud that never even existed until 1992. Flair was in NWA and Hogan was in WWF, and they were still in a hot feud, just based on fans' comparisons.

Hogan (nWo) vs. WCW took the WCW to the top of the wrestling world and nearly put McMahon out of business.

Hogan vs. Sting is arguably the biggest and best feud of the entire 1990s.

Hogan vs. Rock was so big fans literally turned on the Rock and cheered Hogan.

Hogan vs. Michaels main-evented Summerslam, even at Hogan's advanced age, and drew very good numbers.



Hulk Hogan is really the only answer that makes sense. Sandman and Raven are so laughable I'm not even going to bother dissecting them. Savage's biggest feud arguably was with Hogan, and that isn't close to Hogan's biggest, plus there was just not the long list of candidates, so Savage is out. Austin really only had 2 great feuds; Hart and McMahon...all of his other good feuds come from feuding with McMahon and were subplots to the major feud. Foley's feuds were only rarely the subject of big-time, and generally are remembered more for specific incidents, and not the feud itself. Shawn Michaels feuds generally take a backseat to his real life feud with Bret Hart. His only other truly memorable feud is against HHH and that is totally overdone by now. Bret Hart's feuds are just like Shawns...generally overshadowed by his real life feud with HBK. Flair is the only who has a legitimate challenge to Hogan, but in the end I think Hogan just edges him out.
 
Well you can make a case for Raven if you look at it from a Storyline/Psychological/Emotional level Not just a Big Main event player level. You look at the matches and the storyline, you look at the depths that Raven stooped too as a heel, His Promos delivered and built the feud, He got White Heat for the Sandman Crucifixion stuff, His feud with James Mitchell led to a scalping rather than a shaved head. Raven made you emotionally invested in Tommy Dreamer with that feud. From what I have heard Raven's feud with CM Punk in RoH is again great from the emotional investment in the Wrestlers by fans. Also if you look at it even if there is a winner and a Loser in a feud a good feud is one where both Wrestlers get elevated and benefit from it. You can make the argument that the only person that comes out in the positive from a feud involving Hogan is Hogan.
 
You can make the argument that the only person that comes out in the positive from a feud involving Hogan is Hogan.
While I don't want to turn this to a pro vs. con Hogan argument, I would say that Piper, Warrior, Undertaker, Lex Luger, Sting, Goldberg, Lesnar, Edge, and Randy Orton have all come out ahead after their feud with Hulk Hogan. Warrior, Undertaker, Luger, Sting, and Orton for sure were better off after their feud with Hogan.

*Waits for the "Hogan buried Orton" nonsense to spouted...just remember this. If Hogan buried Orton, after Orton was suspended for 60 days for unprofessional conduct, and a year later Orton wins the WWE championship, then that is one of the most beneficial bury jobs ever*
 
One wrestler who participated in a HUGE amount of great feuds over his 20 plus year career was Bruno Sammartino. Although he never wrestled as a heel, he worked matches with some of the greatest heels in the wrestling buisness. Among those he had some great feuds with were Killer Kowalski, whom he battled on and off for a decade; Ken Patera, Bruno's feud with Superstar Graham for the wwwf title was one of the best during the late seventies; and of course how he and Larry Zybysko went at it during thelate seventies and into 1980 was an xample of some of the best in ring storytelling up to its time. On top of this, after Bruno had retired in '81, he came back during the early years of the Hogan era(I grant you it was mostly for the benefit of his son) and had a really good program with Roddy Piper.
An honorable mention for great feuds I would give to Sgt. Slaughter. His matches against the Iron Shiek were an awesome example of superb in ring storytelling.
 
You can make the argument that the only person that comes out in the positive from a feud involving Hogan is Hogan.

I would say that Piper, Warrior, Undertaker, Lex Luger, Sting, Goldberg, Lesnar, Edge, and Randy Orton have all come out ahead after their feud with Hulk Hogan. Warrior, Undertaker, Luger, Sting, and Orton for sure were better off after their feud with Hogan.

I think this is a facinating facet to the debate. While I stick by my Randy Savage vote, there is a whole other area we've yet to explore - not just what transpires during the feud itself, but what happens to the participants after the feud.

As for Shadow's point about Hogan coming out best in his feuds, we can't unequivocally say that, because we don't see the bonus money the people who feuded with Hogan raked in due to being in such a heavilly drawing feud. If I lose a feud to Hogan, but come out of it saying "I headlined Wrestlemania with Hulk Hogan AND came away with $100,000 in bonus money!" I am not gonna bitch for a second.

As for Sly's point, half of the people you mentioned did not have legit "feuds" with Hulk Hogan. The Hogan vs Warrior match from Wrestlemania 6 was not, in any way shape or form, a "feud." It was an intense, championship-driven contest between two top faces. The build up was in the fans minds, not in some sneak-attack or controversy laced storyline. The Undertaker "feud" from the Survivor Series that one year was as much a "sub-plot" feud to Hogan vs Flair as you claim Austin's feuds were during his years with McMahon, so throw him out. Luger didn't come out ahead after feuding with Hogan in WCW, but that's not Hulk's fault. It was Lugers for not capitalizing on the momentum. You are DEAD RIGHT about Sting, Goldberg, and even Lesnar (even though he wasted Hogan's golden touch too) and even The Rock.

Some of Hogan's feuds are derived from his status as WWF's top guy for so long. Rather than give him the "best feud participant" title so easily, I have to consider that Hogan may not have had to work AS HARD to develop a feud as Savage, Sandman, or Raven. Hogan is definately in my top 3 on this list
(1. Savage 2. Hogan 3. Austin) but n my own unique criteria, I cannot put him #1.
 
Shawn Michaels, without a doubt. Not putting any of the other guys down, as they've had some great feuds, Michaels is almost instantaneous in making his feuds good. He starts off his main feuds with the dissolving of the Rockers in a spot that everyone still remembers (though its tame by today's standards), had a good feud with both Diesel and Sid, great feud with Owen, don't even get me started on his feud with Bret, then you've got Jericho, Angle, McMahon, "DX versus the World" in a way, HHH, etc etc etc. Michaels is gold when it comes to a feud, even if its just a short one. I'll admit, his feud with Kennedy going on right now isn't his best, but I don't think that's his fault, I think its a product of Kennedy's second-guessing himself instead of just going for it and becoming the star that we all thought he was going to be by this time.
 
As far as a single feud I would have to go with Sandman and Raven. If you saw that storyline you will never forget it. Raven stole Sandman's actual family. Even Sandmans own son stood between a chairshot and Raven...just increadible.

Ric Flair and Sting...need I say more?

Austin McMahon WAS the attitude era by and large.

As for worst feuds? Pick pretty much any Hogan feud and you have my vote for worst. You ALWAYS knew how it was going to end...a beat down on Hogan...he hulks up....bug eyed....a finger point and waggle...three head punches...throw the guy..big boot and LEG DROP!!!! boooooorrrrriiiinnnnnnngggggg! A good feud should leave you guessing...both sides giving it their all until one final showdown. With Hogan there really was no question as to who would win at the end of the day.
 
As for Shadow's point about Hogan coming out best in his feuds, we can't unequivocally say that, because we don't see the bonus money the people who feuded with Hogan raked in due to being in such a heavilly drawing feud. If I lose a feud to Hogan, but come out of it saying "I headlined Wrestlemania with Hulk Hogan AND came away with $100,000 in bonus money!" I am not gonna bitch for a second.
Great point.

As for Sly's point, half of the people you mentioned did not have legit "feuds" with Hulk Hogan. The Hogan vs Warrior match from Wrestlemania 6 was not, in any way shape or form, a "feud." It was an intense, championship-driven contest between two top faces. The build up was in the fans minds, not in some sneak-attack or controversy laced storyline.
I disagree. The build was teased for weeks before Royal Rumble, continued with promos at the Royal Rumble, and then it was given a teaser in the Rumble match. Then there was most definitely a build to Wrestlemania. Every feud doesn't have to be a sneak attack or controversy laced. It can be about two men wanting to prove who is greater. Warrior vs. Hogan was definitely a feud.

Luger didn't come out ahead after feuding with Hogan in WCW, but that's not Hulk's fault. It was Lugers for not capitalizing on the momentum.
Luger was one of the biggest draws in WCW after his program with Hogan. How can you say he did not benefit?

Some of Hogan's feuds are derived from his status as WWF's top guy for so long. Rather than give him the "best feud participant" title so easily, I have to consider that Hogan may not have had to work AS HARD to develop a feud as Savage, Sandman, or Raven. Hogan is definately in my top 3 on this list (1. Savage 2. Hogan 3. Austin) but n my own unique criteria, I cannot put him #1.
[/quote]That's putting additional criteria into a question where it was never stated. The question as you put it forth was not about who had to work the hardest to have the best and most great feuds. It is who is the best at feuding. Hulk Hogan has had some of the biggest and best feuds, and almost always delivered in those feuds.

As for worst feuds? Pick pretty much any Hogan feud and you have my vote for worst. You ALWAYS knew how it was going to end...a beat down on Hogan...he hulks up....bug eyed....a finger point and waggle...three head punches...throw the guy..big boot and LEG DROP!!!! boooooorrrrriiiinnnnnnngggggg!
Were you even watching wrestling during Hogan's prime Hulkamania run? Seriously?

A good feud should leave you guessing...both sides giving it their all until one final showdown. With Hogan there really was no question as to who would win at the end of the day.
Yeah except for that feud with Piper, Andre, Savage, Warrior, Undertaker, Flair, Luger, Sting, Goldberg, Rock, Lesnar etc...
 
Luger was one of the biggest draws in WCW after his program with Hogan. How can you say he did not benefit?

I could be wrong here, I freely admit it, but when Luger came out of that feud, I felt it was to warm up the heat for Hogan's feud with Sting, which I incidentally agree was one of the 3 best feuds of the 90s. I didn't feel Luger came out of the feud with Hogan with a great deal of heat. He was a draw, yes, but it didn't set anything in motion that I would note. And not nearly the way Hogan's feuds with Sting and Goldberg did for those two. Again, I blame Luger for that.

That's putting additional criteria into a question where it was never stated. The question as you put it forth was not about who had to work the hardest to have the best and most great feuds. It is who is the best at feuding. Hulk Hogan has had some of the biggest and best feuds, and almost always delivered in those feuds.

Gosh, Sly, I am sorry, I was not aware I have to set everybody's criteria completely equal and announce what that criteria would be prior to starting a thread. Dude, EVERYBODY has differnet criteria, though more than anybody I have ever met online, you seem to think the world has to follow your criteria and yours alone. Anybody who responds is free to debate based on WHATEVER criteria they find important, whether that is drawing power, wrestling skills, athleticism, etc. As a result, I took into account how hard Savage had to work to create heat with his feuds, since so often the WWF Title was NOT involved. That was an important enough factor to me where I'd place Savage over Hogan in terms of feud participation. But again, I place Hogan a close 2nd.
 

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