Anyone else feeling uncomfortable with Bret's return?

[Musiq]

As for last night, man when Batista came in I thought he was going to give Bret a Batista Bomb and I was like DON'T DO IT!!!

I was the same way.... I thought the Batista bomb was coming and I immediately thought, "damn.... if he does this, Bret's gonna get hurt and there will be no match at Mania."

I too cringe when I see Bret like this. I feel like it's tarnishing his legacy or something. I would rather NEVER EVER see Bret wrestle in any form whatsoever, than to see him like this where he can't go 100%. It's not the same.
I keep fearing that he's gonna hurt himself, and that's the last thing I want 2 happen 2 the Excellence of Execution.

I don't wanna see this match happen. Even if Batista and Cena are in it as well.

Bret looked slow in his punches, and it just didn't seem too convincing to me.
I'm not sold, and I fear 4 Bret's health and safety.
And didn't Bret say that he didn't wanna be 1 of those wrestlers wrestling at an old age still holding on 2 the glory days?
I doubt he's doing that, but point is, I love seeing Bret back on TV, but not like this.

 

[Kryptic Messiah]

people calling the wwe tasteless? hmm maybe TNA is going to jumpstart the WWE,Vince spitting in someones face eg big deal, so what if its the Hitman, one Vince owed him a good lugey, would you rather Vince shoved his Ass in his face and make him kiss it?...

I ve felt uncomfortable since i heard he was coming back, it upset me. Because who cares anymore? Yeah hes the hitman always will be, but Hes OLD, hasnt wrestled in 8-9 years, and hes had a stroke. Why come back and tarnish a career. The younger people wont remember Bret The Hitman Hart, their gonna remember the old man thats been in the ring lately

 

[prophefixz]

I think everyone is looking too far into all this. I know he is old, and I know he has been through a lot in his life outside of wrestling, so after not being on TV for as long as he has, he will be rusty and won't look the best.

I get that.

The thing that makes me uncomfortable?

Fucking Vince McMahon's burial of Bret Hart. I know they are working a storyline, so Vince is being "evil." But it's been Vince stroking his own ego the last two shows. Had this been another legend coming back and starting something up with Vince, I'm not so sure he would have been spit on like Bret did. I found myself absolutely disgusted by that this Monday. I honestly didn't think that was necessary at all. I understand it being a build up to Hart finally getting the best of McMahon at WM, but there are ways to go about it other then spitting in the mans face.

I believe that Vince is truly letting all his anger and bits of hatred for Bret come out in his promos. He threw some small jabs in there that I am sure he truly feels. I just feel that he could of had Batista come in, beat on Bret, hold him up, and he could have gotten a few shots in on him, and then Raw would have went off the air. Instead, he had to just spit in his face, humiliate him, to show his ego a good time like Vince always seems to do. It's fucking tasteless.

I'm basically venting here, but it's the reason Sting wouldn't ever come to WWE, and quite frankly, I don't blame him. He doesn't want to be buried like they did with Booker T and DDP. To me, this is what he has done to Bret, at least in the last few minutes of Raw this past Monday, after a huge build up, knowing the ratings would be at a high point to see Bret "finally confront McMahon."

I must admit i felt uneasy when batista got him in the batista bomb position. Batista ruined the segment with his awful "beatdown" though. Batista seemed a bit weary and timid during the attack. Brets attack on vince looked realer. It just seemed like he had ring rust which is understandable due to the amount he's experienced in the last decade.
If it wasn't for that split second that it looked like he was setting up a batista bomb, it may have lessened the segment. I guess i can't blame batista. He just seemed a bit tentative with hitting bret, possibly due to harts health. That's when it got uncomfortable and made me doubt Hart's physical well being just a bit. Will be interesting to see what shape he is in physically. He could be in better shape than people give him credit for.

As for spitting, It is 'revenge' for Bret spitting in vinces face twelve years ago. It implies that while bret has been waiting to get revenge on vince for the screwjob, mcmahon has been waiting for revenge for the humiliation of being spat on. It definatly added more to the story than if they had just left after batista attacked. I'm interested in where this is going and finally seeing the closing chapter of a great wrestler.

 

[kc2788x]

My opinion on this Bret hart subject is that, I didn't think he was too rusted as what everyone is saying, he was clearly putting Vince's shirt over him and pounding him, just like batista did to him, and no batista was not going for the batista bomb bret and than change his mind cause he goof, I looked at it over and over! I would like to see the match,I think bret can wrestle batista, but than again maybe I am the only one!

 

[latinoheat8979]

Let me say this, I for one am happy Bret is back in a WWE ring. 12 long years we had to wait now that he's back people start to complain again, what else is new? Look I understand a lot of you are worried about Bret's health and safety so am I but I'd rather see him take really bad fake punches and have him in WWE than not have him around at all. Also I know right now the last 2 times Bret was on Raw they made him look bad but trust me the payoff will be at WM 26 when Bret gets his revenge either in a streetfight or tag match. I'm sure Bret and WWE are very cautious about what they plan as far as keeping him safe in the ring. If he's comfortable doing it, then so am I.

 

[420killer]

I think the Heart and Vince feued is going to end at Mania but I don't think there will be a match between them I think that they are each going to be in a corner of a represenitive of them in the ring and there will be some stipulation much like Trump and Vince. Batista will obviously represent Vince and I think Cena Is going to represent Bret. On Ecw they said they were going to show what happened when Raw went of the air they showed a clip of batista attacking Cena they siad they would show the whole thing on Smack down. That is how this will play out Batista Vs Cena with Vince in batista's corner and Bret in Cena's.

 

[whitefox]

Let me say this, I for one am happy Bret is back in a WWE ring. 12 long years we had to wait now that he's back people start to complain again, what else is new? Look I understand a lot of you are worried about Bret's health and safety so am I but I'd rather see him take really bad fake punches and have him in WWE than not have him around at all. Also I know right now the last 2 times Bret was on Raw they made him look bad but trust me the payoff will be at WM 26 when Bret gets his revenge either in a streetfight or tag match. I'm sure Bret and WWE are very cautious about what they plan as far as keeping him safe in the ring. If he's comfortable doing it, then so am I.

There is a difference between feeling uncomfortable and complaining. I'm not sure people are complaining, from what I've read on this thread I think like you said that people are concerned for his health but also the fact that they are seeing this legend, a hero to many looking less than comfortable out there.

No one was expecting the Bret of 12 years ago to come out. Someone else on this thread said he would rather see a Bret Hart at 50% than no Bret Hart atall. I'm not sure I would go along with that becasue I'm not sure that Bret is even at 50% of what he once was, which I completely understand. He's a 52 year old who has suffered a career ending concussion and a stroke. In fact considering what has happened to him, Bret looks in damn good shape.

People keep saying that he is understandably suffering from ring rust. I'm not sure that from what we've seen thus far we can call it ring rust. To me, ring rust is someone struggling to put on a full match after being out of the business for a while. I hate to say it but from what I've seen so far, Bret is beyond ring rust, he seems slow and stiff just moving around and he's just not physically capable of taking the even the lightest bump. Had it been anyone else being held by Batista, Vince would have put some shots in or slapped them before he spat on them, I don't think they can even do that with Bret.

Bret's no dummy and I don't believe he will agree to anything he is not capable of. I do wonder though if he is doing this because he wants to or because he needs the money.

Maybe I'm wrong and I sincerely hope that I am. I was so excited when I heard Bret would be coming back, and I will be tuning in every week to see what happens. I just hope that things are done in a way that both the fans and Bret are comfortable with.

 

[prophefixz]

My opinion on this Bret hart subject is that, I didn't think he was too rusted as what everyone is saying, he was clearly putting Vince's shirt over him and pounding him, just like batista did to him, and no batista was not going for the batista bomb bret and than change his mind cause he goof, I looked at it over and over! I would like to see the match,I think bret can wrestle batista, but than again maybe I am the only one!

I know he didn't tease the batista bomb but for that split second it looked it. Maybe it was just the hesitation from batista who like i've said already, looked quite uneasy.

Whitefox, my take on the ring rust was just him looking a bit slow and stiff. Only bret/WWE knows what shape he is in, it's just a waiting game.

I don't get why people are complaing about bret being 'buried'. It looks to me like a guy who was in a wheelchair and suffered 2 strokes being pretty much cheap shot two weeks in a row. I can't wait to see how bret gets revenge this time. This is in the same type of storyline as Jericho vs HBK and Orton vs Foley, which the 'Young' characters getting a ton of cheap shots and sneak attacks in for weeks building to that point where the 'legend' finally gets revenge. It's the first storyline in a while that i'm interested by anyways.

 

[whitefox]

I know he didn't tease the batista bomb but for that split second it looked it. Maybe it was just the hesitation from batista who like i've said already, looked quite uneasy.

Whitefox, my take on the ring rust was just him looking a bit slow and stiff. Only bret/WWE knows what shape he is in, it's just a waiting game.

I agree with this, I'm certainly not writing off his physical ability yet but even before things got physical on this weeks Raw, just his climbing in the ring and walking around looks like it takes effort on his part.

I don't get why people are complaing about bret being 'buried'. It looks to me like a guy who was in a wheelchair and suffered 2 strokes being pretty much cheap shot two weeks in a row. I can't wait to see how bret gets revenge this time. This is in the same type of storyline as Jericho vs HBK and Orton vs Foley, which the 'Young' characters getting a ton of cheap shots and sneak attacks in for weeks building to that point where the 'legend' finally gets revenge. It's the first storyline in a while that i'm interested by anyways.

I also don't think that he is getting 'buried'... Well he is, but only for the purpose of the storyline. Bret would not agree to anything he didn't want to do, he would never have come back if he thought he was going to get buried, no amount of money would have bought him back just to do this. They are 'burying' him right now to add more heat to the feud. If Bret came back and just pounded the crap out of Vince week in week out, I don't care how much you've been looking forward to to see this, it would get boring, fast, and there would be no where left for them to go with it. I also think they are doing this to get the younger fans more involved, they can't just rely on the heat from 12 years ago to carry this feud through for them, they need to add to it which is what they are doing.

 

[theHeadliner]

Bret looked 10x better than he did when he made his first appearance: His hair, skin, clothes, physique. He hasn't cut a live promo in 10 years, had a severe concussion and a stroke where he became paralyzed and had to re-learn to speak and move. He's back in the company that he's had such harsh feelings against for so long. Its the first time he's been on national TV in years and I'm sure there are some butterflies since its his first time doing something like this recovery. Considering all that I'd say he's doing pretty damn good. I don't know if people expected him to go out there and do flips?? The guy is gonna be 53, had a stroke and concussion that he's recovered from, and he made up with the company and certain wrestlers enough to work there for the time being...

 

[HatchetMan84]

Dont buy into the whole belief that Bret is "so fragile"...I watched that interview with Michael Landsberg too. Bret said that if he trained hard, and put his mind back into it, that he could wrestle again.

Also, in 2005, when Kurt Angle asked Bret to wrestle him at WM, Bret seriously considered the offer, before turning him down. These aren't traits of a guy who could "die" if he gets in the ring again.

We know alot more about concussions now than before. Bret has had 10 years to heal. People DO make full recoveries from strokes. As little as a few months ago, Bret was also training wrestlers. He reportedly moved fine in the ring, went through the moves, but was cautious with his neck/head.

Bret isnt going to "fight" again...he's going to "wrestle". I can feel it.

 

[Toroc102]

In the same interview he did say if he trained hard he could do it, then he quickly followed it up by saying that he didn't know if it was worth the consequences(serious injury most likely, possibly death), and while he considered wrestling Angle(I never heard of that) he still said no.

Also, lets take into consideration certain things. While Vince may be a *******
(I certainly think he is)I do think he has some reason. As far as much of the world is concerned the WWE is responsible for Owen Hart's death, Bret Hart is out there looking older and more fragile than any 53 year old wrestler I've ever seen. Seriously people gloss over the fact that there are numerous other wrestlers out there older than Bret that look in much better shape and are multiple levels higher on the promo scale. I think Vince is going to say in the end that its not worth it to have a "real" match involving Bret, where he could get seriously injured and then he takes the blame for ruining The Harts. Maybe a stip will be added to the Tista/Cena match where Bret gets 5 minutes in a cage with McMahon, that way we can all see the sharpshooter and such.

All in all, I think the biggest problem with this storyline is that it is receiving too much buildup. I think it should've started maybe 2 weeks before NWO and would've been better off, but now we're waiting like 3 months just to see a miniscule beatdown on McMahon.

 

[HatchetMan84]

Bret is a smart man...i'm sure he wouldnt have came back to do this if the angle was just to be a 3 month buildup for him to have a miniscule role, like be in somebody's corner, or in a crappy tag team match. He also would not have came back if he felt that he could not get in the ring in some way.

I've read alot of past stuff on Bret over the last few days...It was post-concussion syndrome that really ended Bret's career...granted this was before the stroke, but i still think that with 10 years of rest, Bret is probably as close to being healed up as possible. I do know that twice in the past 5 years, Bret has had serious thoughts of getting in the ring again (vs Angle in 2005, vs McMahon in 2007). He never said "I can't physically wrestle anymore", he just always said something along the lines of being worried about if he could perform at a level that he was comfortable with.

When the Bret return first started, it was originally speculated that Bret would have ONE match at wrestlemania, and based on how he felt, etc....would decide if he would work a couple of gimmick matches, kind of what they did with steamboat....

Bret looks so bad right now because of ring rust...he's gonna do more and more in the coming weeks...also he will ramp up his training as well...