Xfear...you have many times stated that arguing with us is like arguing with brickwalls. If this is indeed the case, you should feel right at home. I have likely twice, definitely once, told you to please cite this "fact" of which you profess. Please, I urge you to give something in the form of tangible evidence to validate your statement as fact. Otherwise, you just sound like a plagiarizing fool.
I honestly did not see your post asking me to prove that it's a fact until I just read you reference it.
How is it a fact? Tell me, do you know this person? No. You've admitted this. So no, you don't care. You sympathize. There's a difference. People who genuinely care about something actually do something about it, otherwise it's simply sympathy or pity, or a mixture of them both.
No, I don't have a thesis by an Ivy League professor proving scientifically this to be true; but it seems like common sense to me.
Yes, I have. Many times. So, feel free to edit your post so that it says "He probably has thought about him since he posted in this thread last."
Then I congratulate (I think?) you on your level of sensitivity. Does not change the fact that you didn't know this man.
Perhaps your argument got thrown in the backseat by all of the anger and personal attacks in your posts.
I become angry when people twist my words into a meaning that was not mine in any way. I become angry when people try to criticize me for beliefs I do not have to begin with. This is my posting style. If you don't like it, well, you don't have to.
Is that a fact? I challenge you to tell this to the family of the dude who got trampled. I'm sure they would appreciate you bastardizing the pain they must be feeling.
I'm sorry, but you're not going to make me feel bad over one dead person who I did not know. And asking the family which scenario is more tragic is going to
obviously produce biased results. But if you're going to tell me that dying via an
ACCIDENTAL trampling is worse then being raped in front of your family, watching your family hacked to death with machetes, and then being hacked to death with a machete yourself, then you're insane.
Again, you are not me. So for you to determine what is ridiculous for me to be appalled by is what is ridiculous. If you want to get into a debate with me about universalism, I would suggest that you pack a lunch.
All righty, please explain to me in a logical manner how one death is a more tragic scenario then the deaths of thousands. Please.
And also explain to me how in any way this conversation has touched on the topic of universalism. Please show me where I brought religion into this conversation? Because I didn't. Yet another example of someone throwing a big word at me without apparently even knowing the definition of the word.
Once again, you are assuming that I am NOT appalled by Darfur/AIDS/the Holocaust because I made a post stating that I was appalled by the horrific death of one single individual. The fact that there are not currently threads on any of those multiple-death cases is absolutely irrelevant to my being appalled at the death of one man. Once again, bring your lunch if you would like to get into universals...maybe dinner, too.
And where did I infer that I assumed you were not appalled by Darfur/AIDS/Holocaust? I didn't. I simply stated that those subjects deserve your disgust and concern much more then this one does.
Xfear, for someone who bashes people for being stupid all the time, I'm really surprised at your lack of careful reading. If you would have been reading carefully, you would have noticed that it was said that people continued to pile in over top of the man, didn't stop to help, and continued to bump into EMTs as they tried to perform CPR on the man. The people may not have come to Wal-Mart with the intention of killing a dude, but when he was dying, they didn't seem too intent with helping the guy live.
What is it that I didn't read? They didn't stop to help? So if a man accidentally hits someone with his car (purely accidental), and then drives off without helping them, then the original impact wasn't an accident? It doesn't work like that.
These people were in a frenzy. They were not thinking rationally. And yes actually, several people
did try to help the man and the pregnant woman. None of this however changes the fact that this man was killed by accident. There are no facts in this case to point to any other conclusion whatsoever.
So please, inform me of what part of the story I wasn't reading correctly?
You must read a lot of John Stuart Mill.
Not really. The ends do not justify the means in my opinion.
Death is death. But the John Stuart Mill in you will disagree.
You do realize that you are inferring that you believe that the accidental death of one man is equal to the deaths of millions? Because you've literally just implied that this man's death is equal to the Holocaust.
I sincerely hope you re-read that statement.
Why is it so hard to understand? Or, why is it so hard to agree with you?
Why is it so hard to understand is the correct answer. I wasn't asking why it's so hard for people to see my point, I was asking why it's so hard for people to know what my point is in the first place. I stated my opinion rather clearly I thought, and a few people managed to understand my point perfectly fine.
Perhaps because people don't have values that match up with your's and have opinions of their own.
Which has nothing to do with my above point.
Meaningless? I think that absolutely everything is meaningful. Do you have to agree? No.
No, but you'd be hard pressed to find others that agree with you that every action and moment is meaningful. I'm sure others would be interested in how the shit they took an hour ago is an important milestone in world history.
Sure sounds like that's what you are saying when you label it as "meaningless." Furthermore, who says that people don't flinch an eye? Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions...or are they facts?
Are we really going to argue about the current state of the American society? I highly doubt most here would agree with you that most Americans are sensitive, empathetic people.
