So you can defend Nash Vs King Mable from Summerslam 95 then? Good luck with that one.
To be honest with you, I never saw that match so I can't defend something I never saw. I think we all know that even the Big Daddy Cool couldn't carry a match with King Mable, I don't think anybody could. But you tell me if Nash vs. Undertaker was a bad match
Yeah, because Hogan, Flair, Nash, Foley, Sting and others all work for peanuts. Oh wait, they don't, they only agree to work for a good amount of money.
As far as i know Hogan didn't ask for a set amount in TNA neither did Sting, but Flair, TNA had to kiss his ass. Foley and Nash like TNA because of the lighter work schedule and younger talent and the work feel to TNA
Nash's booking of WCW says there is a certain level of Warrior-esq craziness in him. But that's beside the point. At what point did I say the Warrior was right for doing what he did? I didn't, I just said I can't believe you'd moan about the Warrior while using Nash in your avatar because, history shows, he's been as much of, it not more, of a cancer to the wrestling business then the Warrior has.
I told you people during the NWO era of WCW i only watched a handful of shows only because I wanted to see Big Kev on the screen. So I didn't see the fingerpoke of doom or the SHOCKMASTER, but i did see the Vinny Vegas era of WCW and i loved Nash's work like that then i started watching WWE to see the duo known as HBK and Big Daddy Cool
I saw that DVD, I also noticed how they skipped out the parts about how he'd been hard to deal with before he joined the WWF. The reason? Because they wanted to make it clear he was a cunt and the whole WWF was perfect. If Bret Hart hadn't agreed to do his DVD they'd have done exactly the same thing to him and I bet you'd have believed whatever they said about him too. Fact is Goldberg was a clumsy worker and ended Bret Harts career but it wouldn't changed the fact that he's still a monster draw who'd deserve a place in the HOF too for what he did in wrestling.
Warior was an asshole plain and simple. Also if Bret didn't want to do a DVD for the WWE, then the WWE wouldn't have made a DVD Bret hard dvd. So the WWE wouldn't have done that to Hart, Again i didn't see WCW during Goldberg run okay I didn't know how clumsy Goldberg was okay enough, I really don't care if Bill gets into the HOF or not, I would like to see Sting in there but thats not gonna happen. okay Goldberg was alright in the ring at best, Goldberg and the Warrior are all HYPE with little sizzzzz the only difference i think Goldberg respect the bussiness unlike Warrior
So you'll ignore that New Jack himself has said he was upset that Vic Grimes landed on the tables when New Jack threw him off the scaffolding because he was aiming to throw him to the floor and kill him? New Jack was just as untalented as Warrior but he covered it with a stupid amount of weapons. A sloppy worker or someone who would quite happily kill you if he doesn't like you, I know who I'd rather put my trust in.
Well becuse I am a fan of hardcore what do you think i would chose, ECW the bingo hall killer or a killer in an arena of 150,000 people. Fact of the matter is New Jack knew how to wrestle unlike Warrior. Also like a great man once said ECW was the island of misfits and thats the place where i belong so I will chose New Jack everytime over the Warrior
So Steve Austin never broke someone's neck in Japan? Oh wait, he did. But Austin would never walk out on the fans? Oh wait, he did that too. So, by your logic, Koko should be above him in HOF standings then as well? Your logic is ******ed..
Okay Stone Cold Steve Austin, I don't think boke anybody neck even as Stunning Steve Austin if anything Austin is a better wrestler then the warrior, because Austin knows how to excute moves right unlike mr. warrior. Secondly Yes Austin did walk out on the fans only because he didn't agree with management, and it was in Austin's winding down days as a wrestler so Austin had the kind of fanbase that can easily be forgiving and Austin did earn the fans respect. If i am not mistaking Austin walked out once Warrior did it 4 different times so if Austin did the same thing as the Warrior then yeah i would say the same thing. Also i know there are harldy no rules in this forum but please do not use the word ******ed because they are people out there that have mental problems and that word is being tossed around too much asshole so please thats all i am asking you can call me an idiot, dumbass, fuckwit but don't use the word ******ed again
I'd say Hogan can hardly walk from the landing effect on his hips when he hit the legdrop for the win EVERY NIGHT. Hogan's a legend, no doubt, but I think it's quite clear from his career he's been all about Hogan rather then the fans. Look at the night Hogan was dropping the belt to the man Vince had picked to carry the company as Hogan was leaving to make movies. Hogan himself admits he made sure he did everything he could so that, after the match people looked at him, not the Warrior. So, Hogan clearly thought "to hell with Vince's wishes and the future of the company, I want to be the man still"
I'd say this thread clearly shows you're wrong.
Thats only becase Vince's hand picked man droped the ball, Hogan wanted to be with his family but Warrior couldn't do what Hogan could do thats why Hogan kept comming back. Because
Vince wanted him back
So The Rock, nWo, Sting, Ric Flair amongst others don't have that X Factor. First name on my list says you're rather wrong...yet again.
Yes there were all the had the X factor but they weren't as big as Hogan, Austin, and Sammartino. the Austin era had the rock and the Nwo all three were big but if it wasn't for Austin they wouldn't have been able to push the limits on t.v. the Hogan Era had Ric and Sting. Ric and Sting were in the NWA not the WWE's ERA of the 80's don't get wrong though Sting and Ric are just as big as Hogan but in the 80's the only name you heard was Hogans. Also i see you couldn't think of a name for the Sammartino era which really doesn't suprise me
If you was watching what the Undertakers matches were like before 1995 then, yeah, they were similar.
not really Taker in 1995 was alot better then Warrior in 1995. Because Taker had more moves then Warrior. And i am going to leave that like that
If you're basing it on Takers matches over the last 15 years or so then, yes, Taker owns Warrior all over. But the purpose of this thread is to ask what would it have been like if Warrior hadn't gone awol and, during that period, Taker was wasting years of his career in horrible feuds with people like Kamala, Giant Gonzalez, King Kong Bundy and their ilk. Might not have been his fault but his matches were dreadful and he was just a special attraction for the freak feuds, kinda like where I could've seen the Warrior going.
Again blame booking not the man, for takers fueds. but with warrior the booking was perfect look at his fued with Papa Shango the build was great but the matches sucked
So we'll forget Taker destroying the WCW roster or the Hardy Boys (both Matt & Jeff) shall we? Warrior putting over Rick Rude was as much as Taker puts people over (as in they do as their told by Vince). Warrior was a prick, but it did make sense given what his character was (the ULTIMATE Warrior, can't have one of those losing very often can you).
Okay that was during the Invasion Angle when Taker was the American Badass and built up as an unstoppable force. So it was when the WWE had its back again the rope and most of the guys he destroyed was guys that were supposed to be beaten up. The Hardyz have been having alright careers if i am not mistaken and if you want to argue about it Jeff is a former champ and so is matt and they elimated him for the 2001 rumble too to get back at him. So its okay for the ULTIMATE CRYBABY to be unstoppable but not for THE DEADMAN, THE DEMON OF DEATHVALLY, THE AMERICAN BADASS can't be unstoppable according to you
Glad that's all you've got to say, now you can leave the thread to people who have something creative and interesting to say.
I think i am going to stay on here for a while until you people can find away to stop me for speaking my mind. You don't believe me look at the sig i am better then all of you that isn't straight-edge
I'm beginning to think you only started watching the past couple of years. Taker told Vince after having matches with both parties that they 'couldn't work the WWF style' I have no beef with Vince or Taker, both are awesome.
