Should AJ Get His Own Four Horsemen?

[Spillz3000]

The New TNA Horsemen hmm I originally wanted it like this
JJ Dillon Role: Ric Flair
Ric Flair Role: AJ Styles
Tully Blanchard Role: Christopher Daniels
Arn Anderson Role: Tomko
Barry Windham Role: Desmond Wolfe

But the more I thought about it I came about this group.
Ric Flair as the manager
AJ Styles as the leader/World Champ
Beer Money Incorporated as your tag team/high midcarder roles(but in this case I would tailor Roode more like Blanchard and Storm more like Windham).
The Enforcer would still be a toss up between Tomko and Daniels. I would choose Daniels just based on more raw talent and that he deserves this spot more than Tomko and that person can gun for the X-Division/Global Championship
I vote Christy Hemme over Lacey Von Erich although for Lacey it'll probably do a lot better for her career.

Also I wouldn't worry about the nWo/Band rehash since both Hall and Waltman were very hesitant to wrestle at Genesis and it seems they still have drug and alchohol problems so I don't see that stable lasting. I hope this is the last time TNA gives them a chance cause they obviously don't appreciate it enough to give it a decent shot. So it looks like this new Horsemen will be the only Heel Stable around when the smoke clears. You could always have Sting and Angle lead a group of up and comers against the new horsemen.

 

[bigpawpa27]

I like that you guys have thought this concept through. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The thing with AJ & Flair maybe just a way to get AJ to be a heel and who better to mold that heel then Flair.

But keeping with the spirit of this thread.

My Horsemen pick

Dillion=Flair
Flair=Styles
Tully=Robert Rhode
Arn=James Storm
Luger/Windham=Sting/Daniels
Valet=Lacey

I have to agree that if Lacey was brought into this deal that Flair molding her to actually speak on the mic and maybe wrestlse some would do her good. Not seeing a VonErich wrestle really sucks.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Well, I suppose he'd be getting his own three horseman - he counts as the fourth, surely. But would Flair count? Agh, it's a minefield!

Anyway, I saw someone suggest this on another forum and I don't think it's out of the realms of possibility at all. We all know that TNA has a fondness for faction storylines - Main Event Mafia, Planet Jarrett, World Elite etc. etc. - even if it has a penchant for never finishing them properly. Hogan also doesn't seem against the idea of factions what with this whole 'The Band' kerfuffle.

So, good idea or not? Realistic? Who should be in it? Why?

If I had to pick the other members off the top of my head, I'd have... Christopher Daniels, Desmond Wolfe and Eric Young. All heels already, all fairly decent and all in need of a little elevation. Well, except for Daniels. But, y'know, sympathy vote. The man just lost to Val Venis. Except Val Venis is the greatest wrestler of all-time and I will not hear otherwise!

 

[klunderbunker]

I really hope not. The Horsemen are the greatest group of all time but their time has past. It's one of those things that sounds great on paper but I don't see it working here. Now putting him in a stable not called the Horsemen I could see, but I don't think this would be the best option. They just broke up a stable a few months ago and it ran too long. They need to wait awhile if they're going to do this, but I could kind of see it working.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I'd imagine copyright issues would prevent them from calling them the Horseman anyway, KB. I mean, it's not the New World Order, is it? No, it's 'The Band'. So I predict they'd call the group, uh, 'The Four Wrestlers.' TNA is really creative like that.

Hogan's TNA seems to have no problem with repetition either. I don't just mean repetition of WCW ideas. How many times have we seen Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles before, huh?

 

[klunderbunker]

But Sam, just keep in mind one thing: it's ok here, because it's not in WWE. Now if it were there, this would be stupid but since it's TNA, the repetition is GENIUS.

Anyway, that's true about the repetition thing. They do like to run very similar ideas and angles over and over again, I think the idea could work, but as long as it's not the Mafia all over again. Young just got out of a stable so I wouldn't go with him. Wolfe is tied up with the modern day Slick and Daniels lost to a fake porn star. Russo has gotten rid of heels and faces for the most part so it's hard to have a faction of all heels anymroe.

 

[Maestro48239]

call "them four dudes" maybe! how about "those four fuggin guys!"

I'd never use the horseman name though, dont know if Vince owns the rights to that too. but why? the horsemen were then. need something to represent the era. It's not the 80s anymore

 

[Mitch Henessey]

The Horsemen should not be brought back in any way. This was a great stable that has already had it's glory days, and it really doesn't need to be brought back. I think AJ/Flair is enough of a powerful duo.

I think it's a very realistic possibility TNA could and would do this. They've already gave us a similar version of the NWO, and Kip and BG James sort of had a New Age Outlaws reincarnation going on a while back with The James Gang, so I don't see why TNA wouldn't try and pull of another version of The Horsemen.

 

[INDYjon22]

I can see the appeal at giving AJ his own horseman but I hope TNA does not go this route. TNA is already pushing "The Band" and if they institute a Horseman stable all I can see happening is the two feuding against one another like back in WCW, which is not a bad thing but it gets stale, fast.

More then anything I want to see AJ stand on his own feet as a heel champion. Flair is a decent addition to Styles to help him with promos and what not, but AJ needs to have a run on his own against other guys without a bunch of other teams floating around. TNA just needs to showcase AJ as the athlete that he is for now.

 

[Mr. Steve]

Yeah, AJ Can't afford to have a faction at this time. Right now, Flair and AJ are starting to establish themselves as the heel manager/champion respectively. Them plus the addition of others would just bring any storyline they're in back to the Frontline/MEM storyline, either directly (AJ claiming its time for the new guys to shine by all means necessary) or indirectly (him referencing that very same storyline by claiming that "it's their time). Of course, I'm assuming this on some scenario that the guys in his faction are all new.

 

[DexVendetta88]

I'd love to see another "horsemen like" group with AJ at the helm, but I don't think it's the time to make one, and it shouldn't go under the name "The Four Horsemen". The reason why I say it's not the time is because AJ needs to be fully established world champion heel if this is going to work properly. The other problem is getting the right wrestlers to be in the stable with AJ. These guys would need to get at least a half-decent push before forming a stable which will push them even further. Finally, they would need a great amount of air time to form the stable in general. In other words, the idea for a horseman-like stable in TNA is great, but the reality is it can't be done at the moment since TNA has been overhauled greatly with Hogan and Bischoff running the show.

 

[RockNWag]

Well, why does it have to be a "horseman-like group"? I mean...Heading up a stable, sure? Having Wolfe and EY in it? Not so much...I wouldn't like to see that. If anything though, I'd like to see Daniels and Joe in it, because you know they all have great chemistry, and they've all been heels, and successful at being heels, too. But, regardless of that, I don't think it's time for it.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

Reasons? Justifications? My own personal opinion is that this kind of idea... and similar ideas are the entire problem with Pro Wrestling today. Get away from the past. Don't word the question like this. His own Four Horsemen? No... why the hell should the Horsemen name be given to four guys who have nothing to do with the old stable. Throw Flair in there for Validity? Hell no.

Could AJ have his own stable... is a much better question.

I think he could handle it and it may work very well but is that what TNA need right now? They just had a big stable storyline with the Main Event Mafia. It was good for the most part. Do we need to go down this route again so soon after? I don't think so. At the moment we seem to have a few relationships that have yet to be stabilised. The (former) NWO and Bischoff... where does Hogan fit. Sting always is a big mystery as to who he holds dear. Lets see how that all blossoms over the next six months to a year and then a faction might be seen as a good idea.

 

[TRYPZ UP!!]

If this were to happen, which i hope it doesn't for now, i would like to see AJ head it up with morgan and hernandez, along with mr. anderson, with flair as manager and lacey von erich as the valet(she cant mess up walking on flairs arm...right?) this could work when and if they decide to do it if not for the simple fact that flair knows how to make stables work, HORSEMEN, EVOLUTION, just the two that come to mind first, and the promos could be handled by flair and mr. anderson, those would be classic in their own rights, and let aj, morgan and super mex handle the wrestling.

 

[WWEdomination4Life]

IMHO i dont think AJ Styles merits getting his own four horsemen. Just because you wear suits and spout Ric Flair's catchphrases doesn't make you The Nature Boy. I have watched wrestling for over twenty years and, again, in my humble opion, no one can even dare to lace up the boots of Ric Flair.

 

[Skorpiunz]

Not a TOTAlly bad idea.. AJ has always been singles strong and pretty good in tag team.. maybe the "Phenominal Four" would round out AJ more as a leader and a heel. Maybe the best from every division. X-div, himself HW, and tag team.

 

[TheFOUR]

i thought when people posted a thread that was already posted it got deleted? so why has this bullshit thread gotten to go forth? we have already started a four horsemen/aj styles/ric flair thread..........so instead of being asshats why don't you go scroll down a couple days and see that this thread had already been started. so join today's date an catch up with the forums...........by the way today's date is 01/23/10

 

[hogan is the greatest]

no no no tna does not need that lame 4 horseman crap it was lame in the 80s it was lame in the 90s and it will be lame now if you are going to bring in a stable bring back the only one that matters the most destructive force in wrestling the nwo (the band) now that would be great you can never get enough of that and hogan and bishoff that would be great but please not that lame horseman crap again the only way that would be good is if the nwo shoot them down again like in the 90s

 

[THE SWAG]

the only reason stables are created is to give one certain person a push, at this point in time aj styles doesn't really need it, he is fine where he is at, with flair at his side he is in good shape

 

[Exist2Inspire51]

SURE I think that TNA should do it since they have already tried to recreate every other faction that ever existed. MEM and the Band had their nWo feel. Hell even World Elite reminds me a lot of the UnAmerican faction from a few years back. TNA loves their factions and they love repetition so I am sure that a Horsemen group will come about soon enough.

 

[dansaun77]

I could see a faction of sum sort, and Christopher Daniels would be the perfect fit as his Anderson to AJ'S Flair. With Flair as a managerial role, id suggest maybe the Motor City Machine Guns. They seem to be lost in the shuiffle, are TNA originals as well, and gives a solidarity to the group. AJ the champ whose best mates on again off again with Daniels, plus the tag team can go for the tag belts. MCMG's could use a bit of an overhaul, so if they were to go thatw ay, I think AJ, Styles, Christoper Daniels, Alex Shelly and Chris Sabin would be a handy fcation. All solid workers too. Cal them the Apocolypse, the Horsemen were named originally after the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse. True fans would pick up on the link

 

[The Son of Maximillion]

it would be good if tna could do what wwe did with orton and batista but put a diffrent twist on it like add a knockout or a upincoming tag team i e young bucks aka generation me they could learn alot more from flair and aj

 

[y2empleh]

it would be good if tna could do what wwe did with orton and batista but put a diffrent twist on it like add a knockout or a upincoming tag team i e young bucks aka generation me they could learn alot more from flair and aj

This is the most ingenious thing said on this thread. I 100% agree with it being more like evolution with flair/aj/generation me. I disagree with it being like a 4 horseman. You'd be turning the tables on last year's MEM/Originals feud and in a bad way if they made it a heel youth vs face veterans. That would REEK of vince russo. My only concern about AJ and Flair forming a faction is I fear it would be overshadowed by the Hogan/Bischoff/Dixie vs Jarrett/Foley unless if you made it a power struggle with hogan/bischoff/dixie vs Jarrett/Foley/Flair with the 2 actual wrestlers being angle with Hogan's camp and AJ with Jarrett's camp.

 

[Holmesy]

i would like to see Aj get a stable, him, Flair and the motor city machine guns would be a great stable together and have the MCMG win the tag titles so the belts are all with that group. Shelley Sabin and Aj now thats a trio even bring in Daniels as x division champion, with Ric as the mouthpiece

 

[Rasha]

Sad thing is that Tomko would've been great for a stable with AJ, but they ruined that with him attacking AJ just a week before AJ started his own heel turn. They could have started the group with AJ as the champ/centerpiece, Flair as the mentor, and Tomko as the enforcer/muscle. Then they entice Morgan into joining and he turns heel by betraying Hernandez, leading to a new "big man" tag team of Morgan/Tomko and split tag champs angle that leads to a PPV match with Morgan/Tomko vs. Hernandez/??? for the belts. Finally, you round out the group with a X-Divison guy like Shelley or maybe a heel-turned Consequences Creed (with a new, non-******ed name). Creed reminds of "Rocky Maivia," a bubble gum face who fans can't stomach. He needs a heel turn BAD!