So, that makes two DiBiases, two Ortons, two Rhodes, one Hart-Smith, one Hennig, and a Neidhart with WWE contracts. Man, it's gotta be great to be related to a wrestler and be a part of 'the family buisness'. I mean if your old man can just dial up Vince and get you a shot at playing in the big leagues, and when you get called up give you a decent push on name alone. That's an awesome deal compared to trying to get a contract (and later a push) any other way (where you've got to stand out against a field of literally thousands of others (whether you get scouted from the indies or try to get a contract via tough enough or the diva search)).
Look at Teddy Hart he got a WWE (developmental) contract twise, and I dont doubt that being called Hart contributed to that. He's only got his attitude to thank for getting him released twise though.
You forgot the Steamboat.
I was bound to miss someone. Pity it turned out to be the topic of the thread in hand.
Okay, so you're implying these men have contracts simply by name value alone. Thats silly. Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase, Both Rhodes, Hart-Smith, and Neidhart all are phenomenal athletes. I imagine that Hennig, and DiBiase/Orton are both great athletes too, even though I've not seen anything from them. The WWE isn't just hiring people on name, they're hiring on their abilities.
I agree, and that's not what I'm saying at all. While I'm pointing out that there are alot of sons (and daughter) of 'the old guard' I'm not saying that WWE's hiring them soley because of it. I'm saying that knowing somone who can pimp you out to a big shot wrestling promoter is a big help in the wrestling world. It's been done for years (See: Dutch Mantell getting Mark Calloway a WCW contract by selling him like he's the second coming of jesus to Jim Cornette) and will continue to be done for years. having a Dad who has Vince's mobile number helps you get your foot in the door. and that's one hell of a lot easier than hoping a WWE scout will see you at an indie show, and it's cheaper than getting an agent (which, chances are you wont be able to afford until you've reached the big time anyway) to do the same.
The WWE isn't just hiring people on name, they're hiring on their abilities. They obviously have their dads to go to for pointers in the wrestling world, and thats always great. These guys have wreslting in their blood. They each and everyone had some sort of background of wrestling to them before they entered into the WWE, and yes, I'm sure their name value does help, if only just a little bit.
glad we can come to an agreement on this point.
*Yawn* Really? You're infering these guys don't put their bodies through hell every single match, and don't try their hardest to entertain the fans each and every week? Seriously? Do you even watch SmackDown, or RAW?
No, I'm not inferring that at all. I'm inferring that Jim Neidhart giving Vince/other important WWE employee a call to say "My daughter Natalie is performing at Indie show XYZ. She's a very talented wrestler, and was trained by Bret Hart. And if I do say so she's inherited my good looks. Yes, Vince that was a joke. She takes after her mother. Oh and while you're there you might want to check out her boyfriend T.J. He's practically a part of the Hart Family and was the last graduate of the dungeon. What's that? You're going to send a scout to check them out, and possibly offer them a contract? Wonderful, I'll call them to give them the good news." takes a lot less effort (and luck) than a WWE scout randomly spotting an indie guy who's unknown but awesome, or an indie guy getting so well known that a WWE scout being sent to find out about him and offer him a contract if he lives up to the hype. On the flipside, aformentioned fathers will also be good judges of talent and probably wont pimp them out to Vince unless they think they're ready for the big time (See: Tommy Dreamer taking Lance Storm's word that his graduates are ready for a WWE contract).
The Hart Dynasty, Legacy, and Randy Orton are all some of the best parts of the show. Their in-ring abilities are supurb, and their talking isn't half bad either.
I'm not saying that they arent, but I
am saying that having a Dad (and/or Grandad) who can call Vince and sing your praises will help you get your foot in the door to the WWE a lot more easily than just being talented.
also, I dont watch Raw or ECW. That's not due to any deep reasons. I dont have time to watch all the shows (gotta love doing a pharmacy degree) and I'm going to watch the show with the guy I'm a mark for (John Morrison), so I watch SD on youtube (and my room doesnt get sky sports)
Yeah? Really? You're seriously going to say these guys don't bust their butts just like any other guy whos tries to make it up the ladder? I'm not saying they didn't have a little extra help because of their fathers positions in the professionaly wrestling world, but I am most certainly saying, these guys have as many hours, and have worked just as hard as any one else.
I'm not sating they don't work equally hard. I'm saying that Having an endorsement from Bob Orton, Larry 'the Axe' Hennig, Dusty Rhodes, Jim 'the Anvil' Neidhart, Ricky 'the Dragon' Steamboat or any member of the Hart Family, will put one hell of a foot in the door. after that, it's up to the endorsed to force the door open and make a success out of themselves. or atleast, that was what I was trying to say in a not entirely serious way.
Teddy was pretty good, he just had attitude problems.
Never seen him perform though he does seem to do some of the mose insane/reckless/insane/impressive/insane moves. Frankly if I were a wrestler I'd refuse to take any of his piledriver variations. Or his powerbomb backstabber. But then, I like my spine undamaged.
