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WWE blew it with Randy Orton- The Psychotic (IED) Gimmick was his true calling

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Orton is not the best heel today in WWE, he gets more cheers then boos.

So does Edge. Does that make Edge bad at his job? He doesn't get more cheers than boos anyway. Overreactionary fans, like yourself, think a mixed reaction is more of what it's not supposed to be (boos for Cena, cheers for Orton) than it really is. He gets some cheers, but believe me, he gets more boos than anything else.

Clealy CM Punk is the best heel today in the WWE.

CM Punk is shit. His gimmick only works against Jeff Hardy. The fans are bored with him. His feud with R-Truth proves that the WWE is bored with him too.

And best in the buisness? Hell no! Eric Young is 10 times better heel then Orton.

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This is just anti-Orton bias. A minor player on the B company is in no way a better heel than the top guy in the WWE.
And Orton has changed he is no longer entertaining on the mic and in the ring.

Do you even watch wrestling? He has done nothing but put Kofi over for two months now. He has done a great job of it, and remained over as a heel without having to feud for the title.

He says the same crap over and over again each week and is just boring and bland. Just give him a new gimmick now.

You are stating an opinion as fact. You have provided zero facts or information beyond the opinion of someone who doesn't even watch the show week to week. You have done nothing but regurgitate smarky talking points and you are more fit for MSNBC with your inability to provide a cogent argument.
 
So does Edge. Does that make Edge bad at his job? He doesn't get more cheers than boos anyway. Overreactionary fans, like yourself, think a mixed reaction is more of what it's not supposed to be (boos for Cena, cheers for Orton) than it really is. He gets some cheers, but believe me, he gets more boos than anything else.



CM Punk is shit. His gimmick only works against Jeff Hardy. The fans are bored with him. His feud with R-Truth proves that the WWE is bored with him too.



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This is just anti-Orton bias. A minor player on the B company is in no way a better heel than the top guy in the WWE.


Do you even watch wrestling? He has done nothing but put Kofi over for two months now. He has done a great job of it, and remained over as a heel without having to feud for the title.



You are stating an opinion as fact. You have provided zero facts or information beyond the opinion of someone who doesn't even watch the show week to week. You have done nothing but regurgitate smarky talking points and you are more fit for MSNBC with your inability to provide a cogent argument.

Just cause Eric Young came from the secondary company does not mean he is not a better heel then Orton. He garners more heel heat then Orton does so yes he is the better heel.

Also you cannot be the top heel in the business if you get a mixed reaction. Look at Vickie Guerrero who simply gets boos, she has to be the best heel in the business today with as many people who hate her.

Also I have put up an argument in telling you how Orton is not the best heel in the business.
 
Just cause Eric Young came from the secondary company does not mean he is not a better heel then Orton. He garners more heel heat then Orton does so yes he is the better heel.

Not really. Orton gets more heel heat. Sure Orton gets more cheers than a heel technically should, but he still gets a lot of boos. Young doesn't get THAT much heel heat.

Also you cannot be the top heel in the business if you get a mixed reaction.

Why is that? Orton's been the top heel for a couple of years now and he gets a mixed reaction.

Look at Vickie Guerrero who simply gets boos, she has to be the best heel in the business today with as many people who hate her.

Not exactly. Her heat is more along the lines of "Shut up and go away!" heat, rather than true heel heat for doing heelish actions. Orton still gets that kind of heel heat.

Also I have put up an argument in telling you how Orton is not the best heel in the business.

I happen to think he is in fact the best heel in the business because he always gets a reaction for his great heelish actions. He is one of the best if not the best, well.... either him or Edge. He's definitely top tier.

I'm willing to debate this further if you still disagree.
 
I just rather Orton go back to the legend killer gimmick, since to me he was more entertaining in the ring and on the mic. I mean the viper gimmick was going great at first but then Orton would get his ass kicked all the time, become boring in the ring and on the mic.
 
I just rather Orton go back to the legend killer gimmick, since to me he was more entertaining in the ring and on the mic. I mean the viper gimmick was going great at first but then Orton would get his ass kicked all the time, become boring in the ring and on the mic.

Why do you think that the Viper Gimmick has been a consistent character? There have been two different variations of "The Viper" character he's portrayed. One has been a far more psychotic and sinister version than the toned down character we see today.

Big Fucking Deal about The Legend Killer. Orton can beat up a bunch of old-time legends. Wow (sarcasm).

With The IED Viper gimmick, you had a brand new character that has never been done before to the awesome perfection that he portrayed that character. It was a vicious, compelling, cutting-edge character, unlike today.
 
Why do you think that the Viper Gimmick has been a consistent character? There have been two different variations of "The Viper" character he's portrayed. One has been a far more psychotic and sinister version than the toned down character we see today.

Big Fucking Deal about The Legend Killer. Orton can beat up a bunch of old-time legends. Wow (sarcasm).

With The IED Viper gimmick, you had a brand new character that has never been done before to the awesome perfection that he portrayed that character. It was a vicious, compelling, cutting-edge character, unlike today.

As the legend killer he did not just beat downlegends, which by the way helped get him over, he was cocky, arrogant, and good in the ring and on the mic. He did amazing things as the legend killer Randy Orton.

As the viper, come on we seen crazy guys before like Brian Pillman, Pyscho Sid Viscious, so what is Orton doing that is new with this gimmick? Sure he slapped Vince and punt him in the head, but Austin done worst. Sure he ddt Stephanie and kissed her, but Brian Pillman tried to shoot Austin on television, with a gun. Orton's gimmick is not new, been done before.

And technically he only had one gimmick within the viper, the IED thing was just something Orton made up so he would not get into serious trouble and fired from the WWE. Thats why Orton said on television he lied, cause it was made up people so he would not get in trouble for his actions. Jeez do you people listen or pay attention to RAW instead of bashing it?

The Age of Orton gimmick was not so bad, him teaming up with Edge forming Rated RKO, which was simply amazing and the two had a good storyline/feud with D-Generation X and good wrestling matches aswell. Its ashame the two did not last long as a tag team, one of the best tag teams this decade. But Orton in the Age of Orton gimmick was awesome. Thats when thep unt started, him punting Cena's father. He had a good storyline and matches with Cena in 2007, when their rivarly all started. Orton was still entertaining in the ring and on the mic aswell.
 
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