Would you elect someone who didn't believe...

[RockFan89]

Xemnas started a thread that I thought very few people would respond to, "would you elect an atheist." I assumed that most people would say something to the extent of "I don't care if somebody believes in God or not, I just care about the issues" which is what pretty much happened. A few people even stated that they would prefer an atheist because such a person would not let religion influence how they ran the country. Still, that thread got a lot of responses.

So now I have decided to broaden that same question. Would you be willing to vote for someone who believed any of the following:

• that global warming is not true
• that evolution is not true
• Israel does not have a right to exist
• 9/11 was an inside job
• that communism is a good idea

In my opinion, the above positions are as, if not more, controversial than whether or not somebody is an atheist.

Personally, I think global warming has been far overblown by the likes of Al Gore, so I would have no problem voting for somebody who didn't believe in it.

I don't really care about the evolution issue, I think reasonable people can differ on the subject matter.

The Israel issue, I would need to hear an incredibly well made argument to support such a radical claim.

The 9/11 issue, I would never vote for someone who believed that garbage.

The communism issue, I would never vote for someone who thinks that communism is a good idea. Such a person has an incredibly low understanding of economics.

So what do you think? Would any of those issues prevent you from voting for somebody?

Note: If I have violated some rule by making a thread based off of someone else's, I'm sorry. Feel free to take this down if that is the case.

 

[Xemmy]

1. Global Warming Issue- I think it's been over blown, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm very iffy on this one, but I've got to say no. I'd rather not have someone who distrusts science.

2. Doesn't have the right to exist. Well, they've got the right, and I wouldn't vote for a president that wanted to whipe it off the face of the Earth for petty reasons. If Israel was conducting itself in a horrific manner, then it would be understandable. But it's not to the best of my knowledge, which isn't good in this case. I don't follow it.

3. You couldn't pay me enough. Once again. Science deniel, and this one always comes from the crazy religious right that wants to undermine teaching science in our schools. Fuck that.

4. Dead on. I wouldn't vote for that bullshit either. Until they get evidence. They've failed to do so for 9 year now.

5. Communism in it's most extreme form is not something I approve of. If he's mild, then I don't see why not. A little more socialism in this country would do a world of good, and save a few hundred thousand lives. Point being is that it's nice to have a balance between Capitalism and Communism.

All in all, I am assuming that these ideals and beliefs will effect how they run the country. If they have absolutely NO EFFECT on policy, then I'd be all for them.

 

[One to Remember]

• that global warming is not true
• that evolution is not true
• Israel does not have a right to exist
• 9/11 was an inside job
• that communism is a good idea

Personally, I think global warming has been far overblown by the likes of Al Gore, so I would have no problem voting for somebody who didn't believe in it.

I think you should quit worrying about the messenger and worry about the message. You are against global warming because Al Gore is for it which is nonsense. Thats like me being against the gold standard because Glenn Beck endorses gold all the time..

The Israel issue, I would need to hear an incredibly well made argument to support such a radical claim.

why don't you make an "incredibly well made argument to support" your sage of the term radical? Is Israel supposed to exist because you cried reading the diary of Anne Frank?
Israel is essentially Nazi Germany. They practice segregation, racially charged nationalism, aggression, and colonialism. Zionism is racism and the Jews who founded the State of Israel were invaders and collaborators with the British eh have a long history of fueling racial, ethnic, and religious tension worldwide. The Jews should had remained in their respective European home countries following WW II. They instead migrated to Israel and became hypocrites. I support any U.S. leader that does not support Israel because the U.S. is an unpopular country but I know we can do better in terms of building up international relationships with other countries. We can do better then a band of exiled Jews. It must had been believe that because the U.S. is blame for everything and antiemitism is practiced by so many that Israel and America were a match mad in heaven. A strong leader could forge new alliances I feel. Israel antagonizes its enemies and there is still the controversy over the U.S.S. Liberty.

The 9/11 issue, I would never vote for someone who believed that garbage.

On its face its not garbage but the people who you expect to believe it do believe it. Perhaps Bush overestimated U.S. military abilities. The differnce between Bush's 9/11 opportunities and Lyndon Johnson's Gulf of Tonkin incident is Johnson had a better army to work with and was willing to go in and destroy those he deemed responsible. At all costs with no restraints. Bush was not prepared to do that..
I don't believe Bush allowed 9/11 butto say that those type of tactics by leaders don't take place or that its insane is nonsense. It was used by the British to destroy the Ashanti Empire, it was supposedly used to escalate our role in South Vietnam, and there are other examples in history.

The communism issue, I would never vote for someone who thinks that communism is a good idea. Such a person has an incredibly low understanding of economics.

I would not because it has no place in the U.S. If your living in a communist society you need an understanding of economics. I doubt you even know what communism even is by definition. You think about Stalinism and the Derg and East Germany, the People's Republic of China, and Cuba. When one even says communism some very bad and unorthodox examples come to mind from the Cold War.

As far as evolution is concerned eve scientists have doubts. if there whole argument is not based on Koran verses or bible stories and it isof some academic origins I support their opposition to it.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Someone who didn't believe in Global Warming - Definitely. I think the issue has been blown out of proportion, especially in terms of how much we can do to stop it. Someone who won't waste as much money trying to make us 'greener' would be a lot better for the economy, in my opinion.

Evolution - This is dependant solely on the person and how they handle their non-belief. If it's a religious thing, or they're trying to stop the theory being taught, then definitely would not vote for them. If they're just unsure of what happened, and don't believe we have the full facts or theory yet, then I'd have no problem with it.

9/11 - No, I don't think I could vote for someone who believed that. I don't think it's true in the slightest, and as it's an issue which has shaped the entire world, I don't think I could vote for someone with whom I disagreed on such a major issue.

Communism - No. From listening to Marxists go on about communism, I'm very pro-capitalism. Plus communism would never work realistically in the UK or the US, so it'd be a big failure.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

I think you should quit worrying about the messenger and worry about the message. You are against global warming because Al Gore is for it which is nonsense. Thats like me being against the gold standard because Glenn Beck endorses gold all the time..


why don't you make an "incredibly well made argument to support" your sage of the term radical? Is Israel supposed to exist because you cried reading the diary of Anne Frank?
Israel is essentially Nazi Germany. They practice segregation, racially charged nationalism, aggression, and colonialism. Zionism is racism and the Jews who founded the State of Israel were invaders and collaborators with the British eh have a long history of fueling racial, ethnic, and religious tension worldwide. The Jews should had remained in their respective European home countries following WW II. They instead migrated to Israel and became hypocrites. I support any U.S. leader that does not support Israel because the U.S. is an unpopular country but I know we can do better in terms of building up international relationships with other countries. We can do better then a band of exiled Jews. It must had been believe that because the U.S. is blame for everything and antiemitism is practiced by so many that Israel and America were a match mad in heaven. A strong leader could forge new alliances I feel. Israel antagonizes its enemies and there is still the controversy over the U.S.S. Liberty.


On its face its not garbage but the people who you expect to believe it do believe it. Perhaps Bush overestimated U.S. military abilities. The differnce between Bush's 9/11 opportunities and Lyndon Johnson's Gulf of Tonkin incident is Johnson had a better army to work with and was willing to go in and destroy those he deemed responsible. At all costs with no restraints. Bush was not prepared to do that..
I don't believe Bush allowed 9/11 butto say that those type of tactics by leaders don't take place or that its insane is nonsense. It was used by the British to destroy the Ashanti Empire, it was supposedly used to escalate our role in South Vietnam, and there are other examples in history.




I would not because it has no place in the U.S. If your living in a communist society you need an understanding of economics. I doubt you even know what communism even is by definition. You think about Stalinism and the Derg and East Germany, the People's Republic of China, and Cuba. When one even says communism some very bad and unorthodox examples come to mind from the Cold War.

As far as evolution is concerned eve scientists have doubts. if there whole argument is not based on Koran verses or bible stories and it isof some academic origins I support their opposition to it.

Do you really believe the shit you're spewing? I can't believe that you actually wrote that. Clearly what we have here is someone who's talking out of his ass. Have you read any of the resolutions that specifically state that Israel has the right to exist even if it's neighbors don't think so? You sir are now going to be on my ignore list.

 

[One to Remember]

the resolutions? from what? from who? The Knesset? Oh the crooked UN who placed Eritrea under Ethipian jrisdiction, Namibia under White South African rule, and the same stupid orginization that put Somalia back under Italian jurisdiction after its defeat in World War II for no logical reason. This is the same orginization that had the U.S.S.R. occupying three member seats..

This was Resolution 3379:

3379 (XXX). Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination

The General Assembly,

Recalling its resolution 1904 (XVIII) of 20 November 1963, proclaiming the United Nations Declaration on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and in particular its affirmation that "any doctrine of racial differentiation or superiority is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous" and its expression of alarm at "the manifestations of racial discrimination still in evidence in some areas in the world, some of which are imposed by certain Governments by means of legislative, administrative or other measures",

Recalling also that, in its resolution 3151 G (XXVIII) of 14 December 1973, the General Assembly condemned, inter alia, the unholy alliance between South African racism and zionism,

Taking note of the Declaration of Mexico on the Equality of Women and Their Contribution to Development and Peace 1975, proclaimed by the World Conference of the International Women's Year, held at Mexico City from 19 June to 2 July 1975, which promulgated the principle that "international co-operation and peace require the achievement of national liberation and independence, the elimination of colonialism and neo-colonialism, foreign occupation, zionism, apartheid and racial discrimination in all its forms, as well as the recognition of the dignity of peoples and their right to self-determination",

Taking note also of resolution 77 (XII) adopted by the Assembly of Heads of State and Government of the Organization of African Unity at its twelfth ordinary session, held at Kampala from 28 July to 1 August 1975, which considered "that the racist regime in occupied Palestine and the racist regime in Zimbabwe and South Africa have a common imperialist origin, forming a whole and having the same racist structure and being organically linked in their policy aimed at repression of the dignity and integrity of the human being",

Taking note also of the Political Declaration and Strategy to Strengthen International Peace and Security and to Intensify Solidarity and Mutual Assistance among Non-Aligned Countries, adopted at the Conference of Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Non-Aligned Countries held at Lima from 25 to 30 August 1975, which most severely condemned zionism as a threat to world peace and security and called upon all countries to oppose this racist and imperialist ideology,

Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.

This was the most accurate statement ever made by the most crooked and inept organization in the history of the World..

Do you really believe the shit you're spewing? I can't believe that you actually wrote that. Clearly what we have here is someone who's talking out of his ass

What the bloody hell are you even mainly referring to?
If it was just on Israel quote the part abut Israel..

Someone who didn't believe in Global Warming - Definitely. I think the issue has been blown out of proportion, especially in terms of how much we can do to stop it. Someone who won't waste as much money trying to make us 'greener' would be a lot better for the economy, in my opinion.

I think when people get too zealous they become too partisan. They need to focus on improvement more. The government should invest in alternate energy sources, better fuel economy for vehicles, modification of aging technology to bring it upto par, and an emphasis for recycling as well as financial incentives. Too many people view going green as a covert attack from the left wing of the political spectrum and i feel thats wrong.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

the resolutions? from what? from who? The Knesset? Oh the crooked UN who placed Eritrea under Ethipian jrisdiction, Namibia under White South African rule, and the same stupid orginization that put Somalia back under Italian jurisdiction after its defeat in World War II for no logical reason. This is the same orginization that had the U.S.S.R. occupying three member seats..

This was Resolution 3379:


This was the most accurate statement ever made by the most crooked and inept organization in the history of the World..

What the bloody hell are you even mainly referring to?
If it was just on Israel quote the part abut Israel..I think when people get too zealous they become too partisan. They need to focus on improvement more. The government should invest in alternate energy sources, better fuel economy for vehicles, modification of aging technology to bring it upto par, and an emphasis for recycling as well as financial incentives. Too many people view going green as a covert attack from the left wing of the political spectrum and i feel thats wrong.

Israel is essentially Nazi Germany. They practice segregation, racially charged nationalism, aggression, and colonialism. Zionism is racism and the Jews who founded the State of Israel were invaders and collaborators with the British eh have a long history of fueling racial, ethnic, and religious tension worldwide. The Jews should had remained in their respective European home countries following WW II. They instead migrated to Israel and became hypocrites. I support any U.S. leader that does not support Israel because the U.S. is an unpopular country but I know we can do better in terms of building up international relationships with other countries. We can do better then a band of exiled Jews. It must had been believe that because the U.S. is blame for everything and antiemitism is practiced by so many that Israel and America were a match mad in heaven. A strong leader could forge new alliances I feel. Israel antagonizes its enemies and there is still the controversy over the U.S.S. Liberty

If you ran for an election I certainly won't vote for you. Clearly Israel antagonizes everybody. Another stupid statement that came out of your ass. Sure Israel reacts a bit harshly sometimes but It's acting on it's own self defence when 99% of the world always condemns it. Please take your Anti-Israel bias out of this fucking forum because nobody wants to read your shit anymore.

 

[One to Remember]

if i ran for election I wouldn't need your vote Doug Funny. 99 percent of the world does not condemn Israel. They have far more supporters then you let on. But Israel is the epitome of European colonialism, the same colonialism that has destroyed countless nations in the World. I did not approve of the Holocaust but the best place for European jewry was still in Europe. Why if the British occupied its on zone in Germany did it have to hand over land in Palestine that it did not rightfully own? Do you approve of British imperialism and White supremacy? Israel through some bizarre and ironic twist embodies both.

 

[El Rev sXe]

that global warming is not true

Not only I would NOT vote for him, but I would also make movements against such an ignorante asshole that thinks that the Earth isn't before well everything and everyone.

that evolution is not true

As always those who don't "believe" in evolution are some religious crazy people (not all of them obviously). Therefore I think I wouldn't vote for him/her if that person would try to abolish this theory from schools.

Israel does not have a right to exist

Of course not, I'm sorry but if someone agrees with that, he is a fucking asshole. I mean a country doesn't have the right to exist? Who will be that? Hitler?

9/11 was an inside job

Well if by saying "inside job" (s)he means that the US took advantage of the situation to invade another country for their oil, then I think so...

that communism is a good idea

As always I'm able to see the stigma that represents communism not only for the american society, but for all the anglo-saxon society. My answer is yes! I would vote for him. Stalinism, Cuba, or many other communist countries aren't the proof of communism in it's real form. Plus the US in order to prevent that South America becomes communist they let right dictatorships took place in all the continent on the 80's, because well, they were preventing that South America becomes "communist". The end justifies the means.

 

[One to Remember]

Of course not, I'm sorry but if someone agrees with that, he is a fucking asshole. I mean a country doesn't have the right to exist? Who will be that? Hitler?

An asshole, really? Why should Israel exist when Palestine does not? Why should the British Empire be the arbitrators of anyone's territorial integrity? Why should the UN with its history of legitimizing and enabling colonialism, imperialism, racism, and countenance of past aggression have this rule via its "resolutions..?" If you don't support Israel's right to exist, it does not mean to advocate the death of Jews anyways. Israel has taken lands from Egypt, Syria, and the West Bank. Israel is no different and no more under dogish then the Boar States of southern Afrika. Israel antagonizes its neighbors just to have grounds to attack them back with superior military technology. Offense under the guise of defense. I support any leader who recognizes that Israel is a liability, Israel is an antagonist, and Israel does exactly what it condemns, it exterminates entire peoples.

And then you bring up Hitler? Rather then invoke Godwin's Law immediately I will show some good in this context the Third Reich is accountable for. Without the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia there would had been no reestablishing of Croatia or Montenegro, two countries, NATIONS, that suffered endless oppression under the King of Yugoslavia. The suffering we had seen c. 1991-5 in the Balkans would had been cut in half.
Crotia following 1991 War...
8,039 killed or missing
o 5,603+ combatants
(RSK: 4,324+
JNA: 1,279+)
o 2,344+ civilians
* 447,316 displaced

International sources:
* 300,000 displaced

As always those who don't "believe" in evolution are some religious crazy people (not all of them obviously). Therefore I think I wouldn't vote for him/her if that person would try to abolish this theory from schools.

Its only really a problem when they attack science's slot in the daily schedule. As long as they arent trying to set up counter classes based on theology to counteract what is being taut in science class and school resources arent being drained to try to make room for alternate explanations they can believe whatever. Keep schools academic.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Global Warming

Like a lot of people, I'm not exactly sure what to think about this. Some very reputable people say that it's true and some very reputable people say it isn't. There's hard scientific evidence that lends creedence to both view points. In the grand scheme of things, a person's views on global warming aren't exactly what I'd call a make or break situation at this time.

Evolution

My issue with a candidate that doesn't believe in Evolution wouldn't lie in his/her beliefs, but rather if he/she intended to use this belief as a platform for a crusade to introduce theology and Intelligent Design into schools. Intelligent Design is something that's been adpoted by many religious organizations and groups, as one might expect. Personally, I think teaching ID in public schools is far too close to violating the Seperation of Church & State. The belief in a surpreme being is a matter of faith and can't be proven or disproven through scientific means at this time whereas Evolution has mountains of concrete, tangible scientific evidence. As long as a candidate wants to leave ID out of public schools, then I'd have no problem if he/she didn't belive in Evolution.

Israel's Existence

To me, this just screams of Anti-Semitism and it's just not something I'd tolerate in a candiate for political office. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know all the various details regarding the conflicts between Israel and some of its neighbors. I also know that it's not simply as cut and dry as "you must hate Israel and Jews if you think the country shouldn't exist". But, it's extraordinarily difficult to seperate legitimate claims that Palestine might have from simply being anti Jewish. It's just as difficult, maybe even more so, when you have someone here in the states say such a thing. Personally, I think it ranks right up there with someone denying that The Holocaust never took place.

9/11 As An Inside Job

Show me some rock solid evidence and maybe, just maybe I might be inclined to at least consider the possibility. Until then, this is one major crackspot conspiracy theory. Any politician that openly says something like this is not only someone I wouldn't vote for, but I'd also probably start laughing in his/her face for saying it.

Communism

Communism in and of itself is anathema to Democracy. When you look at some of the various ideals of Communism, some of them might actually sound appealing and plausible on paper and in theory. In practice, however, it tends to be a completely different story. The downside of Capitalism that you see and hear about a lot are little guys, the ordinary and everyday people of America, getting stepped on or screwed by the wealthy "elite" in order to gain more money and power. There is no perfect system, but Communism is something I'm just not willing to embrace.

 

[El Rev sXe]

An asshole, really? Why should Israel exist when Palestine does not? Why should the British Empire be the arbitrators of anyone's territorial integrity? Why should the UN with its history of legitimizing and enabling colonialism, imperialism, racism, and countenance of past aggression have this rule via its "resolutions..?" If you don't support Israel's right to exist, it does not mean to advocate the death of Jews anyways. Israel has taken lands from Egypt, Syria, and the West Bank. Israel is no different and no more under dogish then the Boar States of southern Afrika. Israel antagonizes its neighbors just to have grounds to attack them back with superior military technology. Offense under the guise of defense. I support any leader who recognizes that Israel is a liability, Israel is an antagonist, and Israel does exactly what it condemns, it exterminates entire peoples.

And then you bring up Hitler? Rather then invoke Godwin's Law immediately I will show some good in this context the Third Reich is accountable for. Without the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia there would had been no reestablishing of Croatia or Montenegro, two countries, NATIONS, that suffered endless oppression under the King of Yugoslavia. The suffering we had seen c. 1991-5 in the Balkans would had been cut in half.
Crotia following 1991 War...
8,039 killed or missing
o 5,603+ combatants
(RSK: 4,324+
JNA: 1,279+)
o 2,344+ civilians
* 447,316 displaced

International sources:
* 300,000 displaced

I think that I didn't make myself clear, I'm actually in favor of Palestine AND Israel. I know it sounds contradictory. As always, the "winners" of WWII took an arbitrary choice and invaded Palestine, Germany...It was supposed to show a peaceful world but au contraire, a world that is in constant religious chaos. There is a huge misundesrtood OTR, if jewish can invaded and have a their own "country" why catholics couldn't? When I agree with the existance of Israel I meant that I agree with the acceptance of the territory, not palestine nor jew. My bad, I completely misunderstood.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Would you be willing to vote for someone who believed any of the following:

Let's see here...

that global warming is not true

Yes, I would. Consumer opinion would outweigh that, and since we live in a Capitalist society where demand shapes business practice, most people would still want greener initiatives. And if business profits off of green, then we're good. I'd think twice about supporting someone who wasn't environmentally conscious, but it's not a deal breaker.

that evolution is not true

Chances are, this person is a religious fanatic, so no. I am fine with someone who believes in creationism, but if they run on a platform that evolution is a lie, they're likely a little nuts.

Israel does not have a right to exist

Doesn't affect me, but everyone / everything has a 'right' to exist. So if a candidate takes this hard of a line against any group, then no.

9/11 was an inside job

No. That's a big question for American security.

that communism is a good idea

No. I am a capitalist through and through.

 

[One to Remember]

I think that I didn't make myself clear, I'm actually in favor of Palestine AND Israel. I know it sounds contradictory. As always, the "winners" of WWII took an arbitrary choice and invaded Palestine, Germany...It was supposed to show a peaceful world but au contraire, a world that is in constant religious chaos. There is a huge misundesrtood OTR, if jewish can invaded and have a their own "country" why catholics couldn't? When I agree with the existance of Israel I meant that I agree with the acceptance of the territory, not palestine nor jew. My bad, I completely misunderstood.

Now I misunderstand. I do not believe in the State of Israel beinf where it is. I do not believe in the exportation of European problems and conflicts to the World. I do not recognize the legitimacy of the British Mandate of Palestine. I do not believe that the League of Nations had any attentions of giving it independence. I donot believe that actions or blunders by the League of Nations should be considered separate ill from U.N. debacles. I do not believe they are two separate organizations. I do believe that jews in Europe should had been given territory from several countries in Europe occupied by the Allies. I believe those countries must all be former Axis members.

Catholics have Ireland, all the Mexican countries, Croatia, France, Italy, Albania, Andorra, parts of Germany and Austria, Quebec, etc. Catholics are not deemed more race then religion either. AND The Vatican City is sovereign! Palestine is all of the territory under the British mandate not half or some.

I believe Israel creates problems so the U.S. can come to its defense, so they can justify buying new arms, and so the U.S. can become more unpopular leading to more dependence on Israel as an ally.

I do believe everyone has the right to exist. I respect the Jewish need for a homeland as much as I respect the Incan, Seminole, Lakota, or Apache claims to such. Why is it that the UN was willing to give Israel to Jews from Europe but did not support Igbos in the struggle to maintain Biafra? Why did they not ask for the recognition of South Sudan as early as 1958? Theres still the Eritrean issue and other countless debacles.. The U.N. practices tyranny through bureaucracy.

 

[JuviJuiceIsLoose]

that global warming is not true

I would never vote for someone who was a Climate Change denier. These people are mostly anti-science, and let their ideology get in the way of Scientific Evidence. It would be like voting for someone who didn't believe the Earth Revolved around the Sun.


that evolution is not true

It's the same with Climate Change deniers. I'll always question a person's intelligence who didn't believe in Evolution. I definitely wouldn't vote for a person who pushes for teaching "Intelligent" Design in schools.

Israel does not have a right to exist

No, I definitely wouldn't vote for a person that believed this. I do think that the U.S. and Israel's relationship is too close and we need to start distancing ourselves a bit.

9/11 was an inside job

No, I wouldn't. Nothing else to say.

that communism is a good idea

Nah, I'm a capitalist, but there are some tenants of Socialism I agree with.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

I think I'm gonna post my views on these matters to save face.


Global warming is not true

It's true to a point. The earth goes through warm and cold cycles and now I believe we are in a "warm" cycle.

Evolution is not true

Wrong. Science has proven that this is true and I question anyone's intelligence if they don't believe that.

Israel does not have a right to exist

Who the fuck are you to say a country doesn't have the right to exist? The majority of the people voted to become independent and have been recognized by the corrupt organization known as the UN. I'm not going to go into the thousands of years of hatred between the Arabs and the Jews because that's way too complicated and a treasure trove for misguided fools who will post their hate for each group. All because the Jewish People wanted a home of their own and as a Jew myself I'd hate to bring down this thread into a mindless flame war.

9/11 was an inside job

Show me some credible concrete evidence and I will believe that.]

that communism is a good idea

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Wrong! Communism is NEVER a good idea.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Global Warming isn't happening

There's no question that it's happening, it's the countless bullshit explanations that cause the controversy. But if an electoral candidate turned around and said 'the weather now is like the weather was in 1910,' i'd stop listening immediately, and lose all faith in their capability to lead.

Evolution Is Not True

Well, i've seen a load of bones and fossils and cave paintings, but I haven't seen recipes for 'Primordial Soup' or witnessed an ape give birth to some ape/man before my eyes either. It's fairly obvious to me however that a big hand from the sky did NOT snap it's fingers and create us all, but who is to say the human race isn't some alien beings giant science experiment put here for other aliens amusement?

Believe what you want when it comes to the origins of our species, but if you start trying to convince people to accept your interpretation as fact during a political debate, then yeah, sorry, you lose The M.o.Z.E.A's vote.

Israel Has No Right To Exist

Everyone has the right to exist. Apparently everyone's got the right to go to war over whatever trivial bullshit they feel like these days (not saying that what's happening there is trivial, i'm just saying, England and Germany could go to war over a football decision and the UN would spend 3 months mumbling it over while it carried on despite them.). At the end of the day, i don't give a shit what the a political speaker thinks about other countries, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE'LL DO ABOUT THIS ONE FIRST!!!!!!

9/11 Was An Inside Job

Couldn't care less about their opinion on US Conspiracy theories. If David Cameron gets up and says 'Dr. (whatever his name was) wasn't killed or pressurized into killing himself over the documents he presented pertaining to our need to go to war, he simply accidentally decapitated himself while shaving', then obviously i'm never voting for him come election time. The less politicians engage the public in conspiracy bullshit the better, there's far too many things to worry about before we focus our attention on what might be happening behind the scenes.

Communism is a good idea

Communism IS a good idea.......... in a reality where avarice doesn't exist, and i've yet to discover such a place, so sadly, we'll just have to continue busting our asses just so society can define us based on what we own and what we earn etc.

Regardless of what I personally think about Communism etc, any leader who tries to re-introduce Communism into the modern world is a fool, because you'll invite the entire planet to cut off everything from you, i.e. trade, imports/exports etc, and create complete anarchy within your own country, and suddenly you'll find yourself chumming up to some of the most dangerous and psychotic leaders on the planet and will probably move your country straight to the top of someone else's nuke list.

But factors like this are smaller than the big issues of what that individual intends to do for the country.

I'd think someone who doesn't believe in evolution to be crazy yes, but if their political agenda is 100% solid aside from that, then yes i'd still vote for them.

 

[Cross]

i would vote for a person whether or not they believed global warming was true. i would not vote for someone who did not believe in evolution. i dont know what isrrael has to do with america, but i guess i wouldnt vote for them if they wanted to go to war with them. if someone believed 9/11 was done by the us, i wouldnt vote for them. and i would not vote for a communist, this isnt soviet russia

 

[Navi]

1. That global warming is not true

While the theory of "we're all going to die, when the oceans rise" by people like Al Gore has been overblown. Yes there is factual scientific evidence that the ocean are getting warmer. So to dismiss it is just ridiculous. I think personally it's just a natural occurrence in nature and will eventually sort itself out. Do we help by polluting everything in sight no, but a lot of people are going green and that will help in the future. Nah wouldn't vote for this person.

2. That evolution is not true

If a future president doesn't have the brains to read scientific facts then he or she shouldn't be running the most powerful country on earth. Where did they think we came from? Where we just plucked down one day from a flying saucer? No this person wouldn't get my vote.

3. Israel does not have a right to exist

Every country and it's people have a right to exist, anyone who thinks otherwise is nothing more than a fool. Is Israel right in the way they sometimes act, no they aren't. I find they might be a little paranoid, but considering where they're located, they may have a right to be.

4. 9/11 was an inside job

Who comes up with this shit. First it was Al Quida, then Hussein now it's the US government. If it was an inside job then American's should be furious and vote every member of their government right out the door. The whole reason for the Iraq war was Bush blaming Hussein, even after Bin Laden took credit for planning it. The US has spend billions of dollars and the war has cost over 4,000 lives to fight an enemy that had nothing to do with 9/11. You know on second thought, Americans should vote the government out, just the reason I stated above. No this person wouldn't get my vote either.

5. That communism is a good idea

It is a good idea for those leaders that follow it's principles, as it gives them absolute power. For the average everyday working person, no it sucks. No country in the world even try to bring in the communist principle because their citizens that are used to freedom would totally rise up in protest. When people ask why don't the North Korean citizens complain about the closed society, the answer is simple, they don't really know what a democratic society is because they have never lived in one. Also the government shuts down any television programs that might give them an insight. The adage of "What you don't know, doesn't hurt you" applies here. A candidate promising to install communism should just leave their money in their pocket, it would be a complete waste of time to even run.

 

[K4P-Unleashed]

Global Warming

I am for the health of our environment, but I do not believe in Global Warming and I would never vote for a candidate that believes in it. Instead, I'd want a candidate who is environmentally conscious.

Evolution

There are good enough arguments on both sides of the ball that even though I am a Catholic, I would vote for someone who believed in Evolution. This one isn't something that turns me off of a candidate either way.

Isreal

I'll answer this one with a single question: What gives Iran the right to exist? Anyone who is against a certain countries existence wouldn't be a good vote in my opinion.

9/11

I'd take the liberty of kicking anyone who is willing to deny 9/11 in the balls. How you can run for an American office and be a conspiracy theorist is beyond me. Especially one of the most tragic days in American history.

Communism

How could someone that believes in Communism come close to being a candidate? No, just no.