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Discussion in '2017 Wrestling Awards' started by klunderbunker, Jan 2, 2018.
Make your own Kurt jokes.
Orton Vs Wyatt.
When an angle destroys whatever credibility was left with two great superstars; it's just woeful and disappointing.
James Ellsworth, a man, won the first ever Women's MITB match. Way to make history.
The Angle - Jason Jordan thing is a grenade of awesomeness just waiting to have the pin pulled.
Sister Abigail was excruciating, but at least it was short lived.
Mahal on the other hand, was not only awful, but dominated months and months of television...until the Prince That was Promised, AJ Styles, delivered us all from the long night.
Jinder Mahal's domination of the WWE Championship did no one any favours, went on for far too long and actually hurt their business in India if I recall correctly. Just one long, hot mess.
The Jason Jordan thing is just way too over the top. Just a cartoonish level of forced sympathy. I would have taken Jordan more seriously if he were a student of Angle's, rather than his "son." I wouldn't be surprised if WWE revealed this huge twist in the near future that Angle wasn't ever Jason Jordan's father to begin with. The angle so far hasn't really done either any favors.
That's whats going to be the beauty of it when he becomes a sniveling little ingrate in about 5 weeks.
While it's stupid, I can actually understand what they were doing when they made Jinder Mahal the WWE Champion. They shocked people, put the belt on a foreign champ in hopes to boost the market of his heritage, and tried someone new. It failed, but at least there was somewhat sound logic behind their thought processes.
On the other hand, they hype a Womens match as being a big, gender-equality moment, only to have a man win the match. No one can see the logic behind that, and it arguably set back the notion of Female superstars being equals. It was so bad they literally undid the match 2 days later.
Therefore, the answer has to be James Ellsworth.
The worst moment, for me, is a moment that makes me cringe to this day. It was a pathetically desperate attempt to make a gimmick work, in an age where that type of attempt couldn't possibly work.
Jason Jordan being revealed as Kurt Angle's son is the sort of kayfabe that's too kayfabe for kayfabe.
For one, Jason Jordan wasn't that interesting a character in the WWE. He's one of those "himself/herself" gimmicks that only really works when you've had a series of five star matches on your resume. For fans like me, seeing him announced as a surprise anything would be a letdown.
Do we not live in the Information Age where Google is a thing? If you're going to endear someone unto the fans as the son of a more popular performer, there has to be some string of truth to it. I know that prowrestling is fantasy, but that reeked of the whole Lance Von Erich thing. I like to see things like performers dialing their intensity up to 11 and showing real passion in how they play the crowd, watching clips of Jason Jordan acting all "HOORAY! I finally know who my real Dad is!" didn't sell anything to me.
We're a weird bunch. Somehow we play along when Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt are possessed by spirits, but when one guy claims to be another guy's dad, suddenly that's too ridiculous in the age of technology.
Not voting for an angle that hasn't run its course. As far as we know, Jason Jordan will become one of the best crybaby heels in WWE thanks to this angle. If we're willing to cut demon wrestlers and multidimensional superstars some slack, we should do the same for Kurt's kid.
Voting for the Women's Money In The Bank. It'll be remembered for a guy who's no longer employed in WWE winning it.
James Ellsworth idea to win the first ever Woman's Money in the Bank idea was so bad. That's my vote.
Man fuck you dipshits, Jason Jordan is great! I love that smug bastard and I think the Angle's son creative is not even remotely as pathetic as Orton Vs Wyatt. They both got the worst at Mania just so awful.
I'm slightly amused at how many people hate Ellsworth "winning" MITB. You all are mad that a heel character used heel tactics to win a match based around a concept that really only works for heels. Go back and watch the match. When Ellsworth started to climb that ladder, the crowd popped harder than they had for anything else in the entire match. Ellsworth was the most over person in that match and him getting the briefcase and awarding Carmella the win was the right call.
People upset over a man winning a women's match is just slightly funnier to me than people upset that a white man has a black son.
Jinder winning killed Smackdown ratings, made Orton go back to uninterested Orton, and came close to ruining Shinsuke, all so WWE's profit margin in India could go up 4%.
I don't think we hate it just because a heel did heel things. Or even that it was specifically a man winning a women's wrestling first, though that can be argued. Specifically, I hated it because it was an utter waste of time, getting the do-over treatment and now the guy that got the "pop" isn't even in WWE.
Whatever. Go back to Tumblr you ****.
Sister Abigail takes it for me. At least the other angles wanted to achieve something and had a beginning and a finish. Abigail never achieved anything, the angle got forgotten and nobody talked about it ever again. It was so bad that nobody minded the fact that we never got a finish to the Balor vs Wyatt feud.
Thankfully Sister Abigail was stopped otherwise that would’ve been an automatic vote. I’m voting for Orton/Wyatt based purely on the fact that Bray went from finally winning the big one, to getting pushed back down even further than he was before. The thought of Wyatt being one of Lesnars challengers this year lasted 5 seconds. Orton also wasn’t bringing the fire to this feud and kind of seems like it just allowed him to be boring for the rest of the year, or content should I say. I don’t even really know why Orton did what he did. Did he do it because he is such a snake that no one can out think him, so he did this well thought out long plan to break up the Wyatts? All because Bray took him out once backstage? You couldn’t just have a street fight instead of breaking the man emotionally. Haha anyways, I like Bray and it was so bad to see this feud and what it did for Bray.
I'm rather surprised that there is no mention of TNA/Impact in any of the categories. Usually most of the "Worst of the Year" are filled with TNA options. Were there inoffensive this year or is it because no one (except KB) watches it?
I pay casual attention to Impact, and while a lot of their stuff was no better than average on a good day, nothing in 2017 really stood out as awful. There was no Claire Lynch stuff.
It's much more uninteresting and boring than bad this year.
Does anyone really think that WWE meant for Jordan being Angle's son to lead to a heel turn? Surely not.
But if that mess is handled properly, we could be back here in a year's time with "Jason Jordan Is Kurt Angle's Son" as a nominee for Best Angle of 2018, although I would doubt Vince would get behind something that seems far more like a mistake than a subtle plan.
Exactly. I'm more inclined to believe that creative really did think that this angle would help get Jason Jordan get off the ground as a face, and are just rolling with the heel turn now. But who knows?
Jason Jordan as he's actually an Angle!
They'll never admit it but I think the unnecessary push Jason Jordan got from the "son" angle was undoubtedly meant to lead to a heel turn. There's no way anyone in WWE Creative thought the fans would support this. It also an angle that is working, Jordan is despised and people just want him to be off their tv.
Is Jinder winning the title an angle?
Randy v Bray was actually very good, the payoff just sucked ass.
Shane McMahon is fine, he's getting tiring but hopefully it is going somewhere. I'm not really sure what his angle Is?
Jinder v Nakamura wasn't so much of an angle either. I remember Nakamura earning a title shot or two and Jinder being kind of racist.
Ellsworth winning the Women's MitB wasn't much of an angle as much as it was a moment leading to the rematch.
Sister Abigail was absolutely an angle and failed in every way. She was this unseen entity that was dug up and burned or something. Then she existed again and kind of appeared in promos which was supposed to lead to a match that never happened and was forgotten to her having HPV or something and now she is mentioned again by a dude doing the nutty character much better than Wyatt.
You know it's been a good year when all of us are arguing over the worst the WWE has to offer.