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Why I'm disappointed with Vince and WWE

JenksIX

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... you just saw it.

Don't get this confused, that was awesome just now on RAW. Shows why Punk should be a top guy and why I hope for him to go to TNA where he won't be held back by WWE's standards.

But it also goes to show you how much Vince holds back. Vince is a genius. The only way I can explain it is that Vince can throw 100 mph fastballs but he pretends he can only throw 60 mph most of the time. That was a worked shoot and it was awesome. WWE can not always be this good, but could be a lot more often.

The thing is now we've seen the best of RAW that we're going to see for a while. Now WWE will hold their load for another 9 months or so.
 
Raw was awesome tonight. Next week Cena will talk about busting his ass and such b/c vince knows these semi non kayfabe feuds are the only way to fuel the heat. hate this wii remote. wwe just needs to ban something and have sum 1 do it and ppl will mark out. who else wished he said tna? i think that proves its a work, among other things. not sure how punk can outdo that to go out with a bang.
 
Those moments wouldn't have the same impact if we got them every week. Not to say that the WWE can't be better. But they can't do that all the time.
 
Something that good will always stand out. WWE could do stuff like that more often and not lose the effect at all. It is impossible to do that every week though and would indeed be a bad idea even if it was.
 
... you just saw it.

Don't get this confused, that was awesome just now on RAW. Shows why Punk should be a top guy and why I hope for him to go to TNA where he won't be held back by WWE's standards.

Let me get this right, You want Punk to leave the WWE after the hottest angle in years so he can go to TNA and be irrelevent just like every other ex WWE guy to sign with that company? Are you serious? Punk would lose all the steam he's gained from this angle and be stuck in a company that has ties to Jeff and Matt Hardy, good luck with that. What makes you believe TNA would use CM Punk any better then the WWE has, even if they did use Punk better then the WWE has he'd be a shell of his former self. He wouldn't be a star and he certainly wouldn't be a huge draw like he has potential to be in the WWE. Leaving the WWE to go to TNA would be career suicide at this point and I can't see him doing it.
 
He's only going to be a shell of himself in WWE anyway as he has been. He wants to leave WWE. Where else can he do what he's best at (mic work) that is relevant?

I want WWE to get better, but last night was just something you'll rarely see. I wouldn't even be mentioning TNA if Punk wasn't leaving WWE, he made that decision not me. It's not just WWE's pg rating or Punk not being a top guy why he's leaving ... he has to work 300 days a year and he's burnt out. So instead of him going back to ROH or NJPW, I rather he'd go to TNA where I can actually watch him every week. Hell, TNA should try and sign Colt Cabana asap just as a bargaining chip.

If you want to see more promos like that, wait till Punk meets Bischoff and Hogan.

Maybe Punk won't end up leaving WWE after all as last night I think Vince gave him the ball to run with and I actually think Punk and WWE are on even better terms as Punk proved himself and WWE let him do so. I just don't see this "atmosphere" lasting, though I'm interested to see how they play it next week.
 
I'd have loved to have heard the rest of his shoot. Maybe we'll get it one day.
 
Lol, he was gonna tell a personal story about Vince and the Bully Campaign. If it was real, Punk could of said so much other stuff.

Does anyone know what Punk was yelling at the camera. I thought he said something like "I'll piss in your head."
 
I guarantee Punk will be back, sooner rather than later. Theres no way Punk would've gotten away with what he said unless Vince wanted him to say it. It was a work plain and simple. If it was real don't you think Vince would've cut the mic sooner?

Jenks let me ask you something, do you think Hogan and Bischoff honestly would use Punk like he should be? because I sure as hell don't. Look at the way they've treated AJ styles since they've got there, he's been stuck in the midcard feuding with Bully Ray and Tommy Dreamer when he should be main eventing night in and night out. I mean he's the most talented man on the roster and he gets treated like shit, I don't think Punk will be treated any better.
 
WWE can't be doing something like that all the time or every week. If they did then it wouldn't have the same shock value and it may become boring after seeing it all the time.

When Punk mentioned ROH i was really hoping he'd say TNA, the fact that he didn't shows that it was a work. And i wanted to know his "personal story" about Vinny Mac and the anti bullying campaign
 
Jenks let me ask you something, do you think Hogan and Bischoff honestly would use Punk like he should be?

Even if they tried too, it wouldn't matter as much or come out the same as it would on WWE. Punk's promo last night is something TNA has been doing for years, planned or unplanned. Piper, Joe, etc. TNA always tries using these types of angles but in the end no one seems to think much of it b/c there is nothing unique about it.

The thing that made Punk's promo so interesting is because we know how stringent WWE's rules are and how guys have been losing their jobs/pushes for lesser offenses recently.

TNA is like the modern world and WWE is like Nazi germany. If a jewish person walked out in public and proclaimed they were jewish people in the modern world (TNA) would be like "good for you." If a jewish person walked out in public and proclaimed they were jewish in Nazi germany(WWE), they would be heading to aushwitz.

WWE has the power to make things edgy because they have so many rules and guidelines and anytime someone seems to oppose those rules, people mark out, even if it's not that significant. Dave Batista getting busted open the hard way and shrugging off being attended too and cleaning the blood is seen as a lot more significant then the past 100 times anyone in WWE has been busted open. It's a very bizarre situation WWE has going on.

The thing I hate is that WWE always goes back to business as usual. WWE could have Vince come out and say the attitude era or PG 14 rating is back and people would flip, and the point that was done they might do something else to make it memorable. But the next week, the show might be as normal as it usually is. Even if the rating changes, the booking will always be the same. It's hard to even imagine what a pg 14 show would even look like. We could eventually see a Cena heel turn and at the time it happens, people will explode, but how good will it actually turn out?

Anyway, it's simple things now a days that seem to be spectacular where as in TNA, they seem to throw everything and the kitchen sink at you and it still doesn't come off edgy enough. Every week you have women calling each other bitches and ****es and all the other language they're able to get away with and it just isn't enough.

I really am not even sure what to think right now as far as Punk sticking around WWE or going to TNA.
 

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