When should John Cena leave?

[HBK-aholic]

I'd like to point out this thread isn't me saying I'd like him to leave right now, and is not to bash Cena.

These last few years have been the most successful of Cena's career without a doubt. He has millions of fans, is making a LOT of money for McMahon, and has one foot on the ladder to becoming a successful actor. That being said, when do you think Cena should say goodbye to the WWE? Should be leave in a fashion similar to The Rock - concentrate on making movies, and the most money he can for himself? Or should he stay wrestling for years more to come, taking time out to make movies and rehab his body if he needs, or wants?

 

[Baller]

I think if he stays on top for 5-7 more years of the company and does a movie here and there during his career in wrestling, and then after go into full time acting. I mean he has everything he dreamed of, in being in the WWE, and after bashing the Rock I dont think he can leave too soon or he will be considered a Hippocrat.

 

[The Todd]

Mr. Baller is right if he ever leaves to become an actor then he loses all respect after criticising the Rock. Also, The Rock has been a relatively successful actor whereas Cena has struggled in all of his films. He isn't talented enough at acting to carve out a full time career in my eyes.

As for wrestling he fits in perfectly and is an extremely valuable member of the roster. There are many more years ahead of him yet. At the moment he is in the stage of his career where he is rightly in all the main events and is always in the title picture but the time will come where he is best off in the "Undertaker/HBK role" in putting on high profile, money mkaing matches without being in the actual main event and putting over the newer talent.

So there is unlimited time ahead of him. Another four or five years at the top of the company, whether as a face or heel, before stepping aside for a further four or five years to put over new people, a role I expect Cena to fulfill without complaint.

 

[YoYoYumba]

I really don't think Cena will leave like The Rock did otherwise he would get alot of shit for all the garbage he spoke of him. Cena was completely out of line for some of the things he said and he had no right to speak about The Rock that way but neway I know thats for another topic. I really don't know when he should leave to be honest. He would just have to take into account what would be best for him and these things would include any injuries he was suffering from, if he wanted to spend more time with family and if he was genuinely interested in a completely different line of work. I can probably see him taking off every now and then and eventually just doing a lighter schedule like Michaels and Taker are doing. He obviously has a passion for the WWE so I really doubt he would quit anytime soon unless he does suffer a very serious injury like Stone Cold did with all the neck problems he had. Having said that I personally wouldn't care if he left next week because I really don't like him, as I've made clear in my other posts lol but that ain't gonna happen.

 

[markmeout]

In five years if Cena has more sucess in the movie industry I can see it happening. When the rock left he was recieving more money doing two movies a year then he would have in the wwe. I believe that Cena will leave when he reaches the same money earning potential since money dictates life and if he earns more money per 2 movies in 5 years I can see him hanging it up since he will feel he has done everything he could have done in wrestling.

 

[SSJPhenom]

As much as I want to say, "Cena should get the hell out of the WWE right now and spare us all." I can't do that.

I think that Cena is fine right where he is at. I might not like him as an in ring performer, but a lot of people do like him and he is making the WWE a lot of money right now. He appears to be a company man and he has openly called The Rock out for leaving like he did saying, "I would never do that to the company that made me who I am." So I think that Cena will be here for years to come. I have to admit that if he continues with his stale character, horrible jokes, and even worse in ring ability, then I might have to change my mind. Nothing makes me happier than to see someone like Cena have so much respect for professional wrestling. I have said many times that I hate Cena the performer, but I respect Cena the man.

 

[Kesteral]

I think he should leave when the injuries are piling up and he's advised not to keep going, otherwise I don't think he'll ever leave. Seems to me like a Ric Flair type, in it for the long haul. He's a real worker, he won't quit for acting. He's on the road almost every day each year, the only thing that might slow him down is maybe having children, spending time with family otherwise he'll be on our screens for the next 10 years barring injury.

 

[X]

I'd like to point out this thread isn't me saying I'd like him to leave right now, and is not to bash Cena.

These last few years have been the most successful of Cena's career without a doubt. He has millions of fans, is making a LOT of money for McMahon

I was with you until you said that last part Becca.

Where is everyone getting this idea that Cena is some gigantic money-maker for McMahon? The WWE LOST nearly $50 million dollars last year! That's a net loss, as in they didn't turn a profit last year, they lost money instead. So if Cena is this huge money maker, and he's the WWE's biggest star...well then he isn't doing a very good job, is he?

and has one foot on the ladder to becoming a successful actor.

That's never going to happen. Cena doesn't have anywhere near the skills of The Rock, and will never be a household name like The Rock. The only movies Cena will ever be starring in are those funded by Vince McMahon. Which have all lost money, by the way.

That being said, when do you think Cena should say goodbye to the WWE? Should be leave in a fashion similar to The Rock - concentrate on making movies, and the most money he can for himself? Or should he stay wrestling for years more to come, taking time out to make movies and rehab his body if he needs, or wants?

There's a difference to the Rock and Cena's movie careers though; The Rock was actually being hired by real Hollywood studios to act in movies. Cena is being put into movies by Vince McMahon, by WWE films. The same company that put Kane into a film in a starring role. When's Kane going to be leaving the WWE for Hollywood? Cena isn't a good actor, and will never be on the level of The Rock right now. Ever.

As for when Cena should leave the WWE...he's still got quite a bit of time ahead of him. I think he'll be in the E for the next decade.

 

[Paradox]

I honestly don't see him leaving the company. He has said it before he's a wrestler first. That is his dream. Movies are cool, but they aren't his passion, as the the wrestling business is. He is one of the more successful people in wrestling today. So, even if he did decide to leave it wouldn't be for a couple of more years. Also, I don't think that anyone would ever take him seriously if let to do full time movies, because of his comments on the Rock. Now I agree he's not the best actor in the world, but he's alright. Not as bad as X said. I strongly believe that he will do movies on the side for the next couple of years. As well as continuing full time in wrestling.

 

[Brady12]

I'd like to point out this thread isn't me saying I'd like him to leave right now, and is not to bash Cena.

These last few years have been the most successful of Cena's career without a doubt. He has millions of fans, is making a LOT of money for McMahon, and has one foot on the ladder to becoming a successful actor. That being said, when do you think Cena should say goodbye to the WWE? Should be leave in a fashion similar to The Rock - concentrate on making movies, and the most money he can for himself? Or should he stay wrestling for years more to come, taking time out to make movies and rehab his body if he needs, or wants?

I don't know if I'd say the past few years has been the most successful for Cena. They've kept the strap off him for the most part.

As for one foot on the ladder to becoming a successful actor like the Rock. Well, that's without a doubt factually wrong.

John Cena's movies have tanked horribly in the box office, but in fairness, his films do decent in video stores. Which means, he'd be a decent B or C actor in the "Direct to Video" market.

The Rock is a mega-star in box offices and the only wrestler to make an actual successful day job out of it, topping the charts usually.

I mean, Hogan, Austin, Cena, Kane, Piper, Ventura, and anyone else I may have forgotten have either struggled or are still struggling at it.

So no, I'm pretty sure Cena knows his place and it's not in acting. Its being a wrestler who appeals to the kid and woman market.

 

[SuperKick36]

I really don't think Cena will leave like The Rock did otherwise he would get alot of shit for all the garbage he spoke of him. Cena was completely out of line for some of the things he said and he had no right to speak about The Rock that way but neway I know thats for another topic. I really don't know when he should leave to be honest. He would just have to take into account what would be best for him and these things would include any injuries he was suffering from, if he wanted to spend more time with family and if he was genuinely interested in a completely different line of work. I can probably see him taking off every now and then and eventually just doing a lighter schedule like Michaels and Taker are doing. He obviously has a passion for the WWE so I really doubt he would quit anytime soon unless he does suffer a very serious injury like Stone Cold did with all the neck problems he had. Having said that I personally wouldn't care if he left next week because I really don't like him, as I've made clear in my other posts lol but that ain't gonna happen.

How is cena wrong for the things he said about the rock? He's right. The Rock has insulted wrestling and wrestling fans by betraying us and lying. Hell, he has even abandoned the name that MADE HIM FAMOUS! He's going by Dwayne Johnson now. JUST Dwayne Johnson.

Do I still like Dwayne Johnson? Yea. The Rock? yea. But if he walked out into an arena, I'd boo his ass off. Cena was speaking for alot of fans when he said the things about Rock.

ANYWAYS....

Cena is still pretty young. However, within a couple years they should move Cena to Smackdown so he can get fresh feuds and so the guys on Raw have more room to advance up the ladder.

Then in maybe 6 or 7 years, Cena can slow down and have feuds with main-event contenders, and he can put them over. However, with as much time as Cena has put into the company, he should have the occasional title reign and set an example for the younger guys.

 

[X]

How is cena wrong for the things he said about the rock? He's right. The Rock has insulted wrestling and wrestling fans by betraying us and lying.

Really? How did The Rock "betray" us? The Rock is a performer. He doesn't owe us a fucking thing. Would you say The Rolling Stones "betrayed us" if they were to retire from music right now? No, and if you did, you'd be foolish.

Hell, he has even abandoned the name that MADE HIM FAMOUS! He's going by Dwayne Johnson now. JUST Dwayne Johnson.

Why the hell would he go by the name "The Rock"? You're not likely to get many serious roles with that name. Seriously now, we're criticizing him for using his real name? Guess what? He had the name Dwayne Johnson before the Rock. I know, crazy, right?

You guys and your hatred of the Rock is absolutely ridiculous. You should be happy that someone who made their start in wrestling has propelled himself to the next level.

 

[Brady12]

I dislike Cena a great deal, but I related to his disappointment. I think a great deal of wrestling fans feel betrayed. One week, the Rock spouts off about the passion he has for the business. The next week, he won't come near it.

It's sad.

 

[TimAH]

I dont see Cena leaving to become at actor at all. Frankly I think his acting is atrocious and therefore he'd have a real tough time making it in that field. I suspect Cena will be in the WWE until he either suffers a career ending injury or he just gets too old.

 

[The Decrypter]

Really? How did The Rock "betray" us? The Rock is a performer. He doesn't owe us a fucking thing. Would you say The Rolling Stones "betrayed us" if they were to retire from music right now? No, and if you did, you'd be foolish.



Why the fudge would he go by the name "The Rock"? You're not likely to get many serious roles with that name. Seriously now, we're criticizing him for using his real name? Guess what? He had the name Dwayne Johnson before the Rock. I know, crazy, right?

You guys and your hatred of the Rock is absolutely ridiculous. You should be happy that someone who made their start in wrestling has propelled himself to the next level.

Not to sound like a strap-on or anything, but xfearbefore is by far one of the smartest, most logically inclined people on these boards. >_>

 

[X]

Everyone should keep in mind that just because you're a charismatic and exciting wrestler, that doesn't mean you'll be a good or successful actor. If that were true, than Hulk Hogan's acting career would have taken off, wouldn't it? He kept trying, and trying, and trying, and ended up making Made for TV movies for TNT. So keep in mind, success in the field of wrestling does not guarantee success in the field of acting. Austin has learned this lesson as well.

 

[theking2422]

well john cane is getting kind of stale hope he wins rko n takes the title aways so we could have hbk cena in hell in a cell ppv so atleast we could have some thing good 2 watch in that ppv but cena will not leave wwe in a long timethe deadman

 

[SSJPhenom]

Everyone should keep in mind that just because you're a charismatic and exciting wrestler, that doesn't mean you'll be a good or successful actor. If that were true, than Hulk Hogan's acting career would have taken off, wouldn't it? He kept trying, and trying, and trying, and ended up making Made for TV movies for TNT. So keep in mind, success in the field of wrestling does not guarantee success in the field of acting. Austin has learned this lesson as well.

Once again X has graced us with his intelligence. I would follow you to the depths of WZ hell. We agree on a lot of things.

Cena is definately not a good enough actor to go at it full time, however, I enjoyed a number of Hogan's movies, like: Mr. Nanny. That was funny. Also, Austin's Condemned is oscar worthy when compared to 12 Rounds or The Marine.

I also don't know why everyone considers The Rock to be so good at acting. He has only had 3 movies that I have enjoyed. The Rundown, The Game Plan, and Gridiron Gang.

 

[Spaceman Spif]

John Cena will be here for a loooong time to come. He has stated that he doesn't want a full-time acting career, which is fine as he is no good anyways, he has stated that he won't let and doesn't want any outside ventures to intefere with wrestling. Cena will wrestle until his body won't let him do it anymore. He won't leave to pursue other interests.

Cena will be in the main event from here on out. Will he always have the title or be in the title picture? No he won't but he is now and forever a main eventer. He will be in the top spot for easily another 5 years, more like ten, he's still young. Then as has been said he'll like move into a Taker. and HBK role, putting over younger talent, working a reduced schedule, but remaining in the main event. I doubt he'll pull a Triple H and refuse to move over and put other's over. Cena has yet to show any selfishness and will do buisness without question. So when Vince deems or Cena feels it's time, he'll move to the side, but will always been in the ME picture.

He isn't going anywhere for a very long time unless something drastic happens to change this.

 

[Wrath]

He's always said that how he loved wrestling business and he will never leave WWE like The Rock did. If he does that he would be accepted as the biggest hypocrite in wrestling business ever. As long as he does not have a career threatening injury he should at least wrestle for a decade.

 

[Freddy4190]

Cena's said himself that his life is the WWE. I seriously doubt he'll leave for movies. He won't be leaving for at least 10 years, unless he suffers a career ending injury. The man has so much money, he makes so much money. He's popular around the world. Why does he have to leave to do movies? He can do another rap album. I'm listening to "You Can't See Me" right now actually. He's not a god awful rapper, but he's not a good one either. I've heard worse. John Cena, like someone said isn't being cast by Hollywood, it's by WWE Films. He's not on the same level as The Rock when it comes to acting. Albeit he's only done movies where he has to rescue someone. Maybe if he did something else he could succeed. But like I said, I don't see Cena leaving for a looong time.

 

[Барбоса]

In the future, I think Cena could carve out a tidy career in the movies, never as a leading man but maybe as a head henchman or sidekick. He has a sense of humour, comic timing and charisma in front of the camera as well as being 250lbs of muscle. It should have been someone like Cena that was cast in the role of Juggernaut in X-Men III instead of Vinny Jones.

Such a position could easily mesh with a continued role in WWE. He could assume a similar schedule to HBK and Taker and work around his in-ring exploits or he could time to the culmination of his feuds to coincide with his movie roles.

I don't see it happening in the near future but Cena would be a full to completely turn his back if such an opportunity were to arise

 

[CenaSux4Life78]

Okay, I know this isn't a bash Cena thread. I'm fine with that. I agree with what has been said in this about him. In that he has a few more years left in him, assuming he stays healthy. Although I feel Cena has little ring ability he has GREAT mic skills, and instead of a movie career after wrestling, maybe a stand-up comic. I am not saying that as a negative. He is very funny. I enjoy him when he just let's his mouth move, reminds me a bit of Rock and Jericho. But again, if he stays healthy 3-5 years before he the "put over new guys" guy. One question, where can I find either vid or aud file of Cena bashing Rock?

 

[school-of-hard-knocks]

I was with you until you said that last part Becca.

Where is everyone getting this idea that Cena is some gigantic money-maker for McMahon? The WWE LOST nearly $50 million dollars last year! That's a net loss, as in they didn't turn a profit last year, they lost money instead. So if Cena is this huge money maker, and he's the WWE's biggest star...well then he isn't doing a very good job, is he?

Where do you get this crap from? WWE suffered a large decrease in revenue in 2008 due to economy but it still had significant profits. They made 45.4M in net income profits in 2008. I got my number from reuters.com. So please stop trying to make yourself look smarter than everybody else when you don't know what you are talking about.

Also, WWE movies have made profit, a slight profit but a profit none the less. Here is a quote from the wrestling observer web site:

Partial Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

The WWE Films division has made a grand total of $300,000 in profit with their three movie releases; See No Evil, The Marine and The Condemned. Between See No Evil and The Marine, the company made $16 million in profit. However, Steve Austin's movie The Condemned was a huge money loser as it almost put WWE Films' profitability in the red. WWE is estimating losses at $15.7 million for the release of The Condemned.

Just because a movie doesn't sell well in theaters doesnt mean it will loose money. WWE movies make a killing in rentals.


Back on the topic, when should Cena leave? When he can't draw money anymore. Plain and simple.

 

[Slam Master]

Cena would be crazy to leave. He's the top face. He's in the main event at every PPV though he doesn't steal the show(except at WM23 but that was Michaels who carried him). The clip they showed of his movie on Conan O'Brian seemed really cheesy and corny(I'm talking about his acting). If they start booking his matches differently, changing his character, and move him to Smackdown! They can get another ten years out of him.