What the fuck do you guys want??

[Lee]

Wrestling's boring, it's the same thing happening week in, week out, there are no surprises.

Erm shit well Christian turning up in ECW was too much of a surprise.

Ah the Rock, he was great because he won the main title 7 times in 3 years...the guy is a legend, the attitude era was great, you know whne the titles kept changing hands.

Aww shit Edge has won the belt 7 times in 3 years, too many suprises, the belt keeps changing hands. This is not fun.

So using these four very paraphrased quotes, I ask you guys what you actually want in your wrestling?

Do you want long reigns? You didn't like that with Cena.

Do you want surprises? You didn't like that with Edge

Do you want some good mat work in a match? That's why HHH & Kosolov were booed at Survivor Series.

Do you want lots of flippys? That's why people have been annoyed a Jeff Hardy for years (among other drug related incidences).

So ladies and gentlemen I simply ask you...what do you want in your wrestling?

 

[Queers and Steers]

In my opinion wrestling is fantastic right now1 the only thing that is missing is them needing to restore the mid card belts back to prestige21 but overall ill give wrestling a 8.5 or 9 right now

 

[NSL]

I'd like a mix of long title reigns, and surprises. I know the meaning of "long" these days, isn't what it was 10-15 years ago, but for a champion to even hold a belt for 8-9 months is rare. I am not a JBL fan by any means, but I liked when he had the belt for 10 months. Surprises are good on rare occasions. I liked how Edge and CM Punk cashed in their MiTB contracts, and I liked Jeff Hardy winning at Armageddon. I don't like Edge getting 3 title reigns in 3 months, or Hardy holding the belt for less than 30 days.

I jokingly said in another thread, that in 5 years, we're going to have "Edge, the 22-time world champion". I'm starting to think it's pretty close to reality. Having the champion hold the belt for a long reign allows for better feuds surrounding the title, and lets more people move in to the title picture, withut actually holding the belt. When Kendrick got his chance last year, we were all shocked, and even though he didn't technically win the belt at all, it was nice to see new people in the picture. We all felt the same way when Kofi won the spot in the Elimination Chamber. He didn't end up competing in it, but at least his name was mentioned, and he can be involved in the main event scene for a short while.

If the title is jumping around, it tends to only be between the same 3 or 4 people, and makes each reign seem less and less important. No matter who faces Triple H at Wrestlemania, we can't help but believe he'll lose, because there's a precedent now for the title to be dropped quickly.

If the titles really do mean anything, then whoever walks out of Wrestlemania as a champion, should at least hold it through Summerslam, if not Survivor Series.

 

[klunderbunker]

Lee you have hit the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the IWC. Nothing, and I repeat nothing, will ever make them happy. Wrestling could put on an absolutely perfect PPV and the true smart ass smarks would still find something to complain about. The ones that aren't assholes will be able to say how awesome somethign was. Take Christian's return for example: perfect. The smarks want him with Edge/the Hardys. That's just dumb. He's been with them forever and there's nothing there to gain. Smarks don't want to hear that. They're closeminded and it's aggrivating. They'll literally never be happy.

 

[Khalifa]

Me personally would like something like this 2 happen. Have one big long reign perferably heel.. Just like 0.7-1.5 years. This gives the people to actually see what the person is like with holding the title and see if they deserve it and if they don't just cut it short. Then have a few small reigns like 3-6 months just like Taker or Jericho. This gives people the feuds they always wanted and also doesn't make people get bored during the reigns. Then like once every 1-3 years have a big surprise. Like Christian coming back or Edge beating Cena for his first world title reign and then have small surprises around that, like HHH to SD and tonights NWO. I would always like that. I would never get bored with that.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

What I'm looking for:

1) Quality storylines that are believable and actually mean something.

2) Showcasing the strengths of the wrestlers and making them lose via their weaknesses.

3) A mix of different wrestling styles. Not spot after spot, but not headlock after headlock.

4) Surprises that are the result of actual value, rather than pure shock. If you shock me by having Kofi Kingston come out tomorrow night on Raw and win the title from Edge, the fact that I didn't see it coming doesn't automatically mean its a good idea by default.

5) For HHH to start losing matches like everybody else. I'd have no problem having him as a main event guy and even a champion once every so often if he would just simply lose like everybody else does.

6) A mix of short and long title reigns. This situation that we've unofficially declared "the hot potato" is annoying in some ways and good in some ways. It'd be much better if it was back and forth between people that were just out-performing each other, rather than booking it so Edge can't possibly win without cheating. At the same time, when a title reign is a bore, you need to change it. HHH's title reign in 08 was horrible in my mind because I didn't find any of it the least bit interesting. The same went for Cena back in 07. I wanted him to lose it every time I saw him on Raw and on every ppv just for something to be different...except for when he was against Lashley as I thought Lashley would be an even worse option lol.

7) For them to stop insulting my intelligence with stuff like Mysterio beating every super heavyweight every time he's facing them. The same goes for Hornswoggle. Everything about Hornswoggle. Everything. The stupid "ack! ack!" speech he does, the fact that he always has makeup that looks like dirt on his face, that he gets more air time than some of their impressive talent, etc. Sure, some kids might like it, but they don't need to do it every single week and they CERTAINLY don't need to make their superstars look like complete idiots in the process.

8) Some originality now and then. How many matches has Finlay won in the past 2 years that weren't as a result of either the shillelagh? Maybe like, 3, tops? How many times have we had some heel debut and beat jobbers for several months with nothing that differentiates that push from the push of all the other heels that just beat up jobbers?

9) For the WWE to listen to the fans if something's going wrong rather than try to just beat it into the audience's heads that they're wrong and the WWE is right. Isn't that what happened that transformed Austin into the superstar he became? They listened to the fans chanting Austin's name and used that to change him into a face, instead of just refusing to and saying "no, we want him to be heel, so stop chanting him, cause you're wrong".

10) For them to stop freaking running so many goddamn repetitive promos. I'm so sick of seeing the same exact Raw footage on Monday night, then on the recap Tuesday, then on the recap Friday, then a "let's look at what happened last week" recap twice on Monday again, and then seeing it AGAIN on the ppv! If you multiply this by 3 shows worth of doing it, you're seeing the same 3 segments so many times that you feel so sick of watching it by the time the next week comes along and it doesn't resonate that "gotta check it out next week" idea because its already a tired storyline. If they're hell bent on showing some recaps, they should make them 15-30 seconds long and that's it.


Not really too many outlandish demands there, right?

 

[Miko]

Me? I couldnt be happier with wrestling but that's just me, I dont care if someone has a 4 year long title reign or only a 2 day title reign. I am not a booker, I dont pretend to know what I am talking about. I just watch what is put in front of me. Occasionally I might be a little pissed when someone like Kane loses to Mysterio.

Long title reigns or short ones it doesnt matter, the belt doesnt lose credibility I dont care what anyone says. Where this idea of "he needs to hold the belt for 8 months plus to make the belt credible again" comes from I dont know. I tend to think that in any sport that is competative as wrestling would be if it was real, one where you had to compete on TV everyweek and where people like Edge could get away with cheating like a motherfucker it's conceivable that you might only hold that title for a month.

So what do I want from wrestling, to be entertained of course nothing else.

 

[HBK-aholic]

So using these four very paraphrased quotes, I ask you guys what you actually want in your wrestling?

I actually love wrestling at the moment, just as I always have. People will complain about individual aspects, because it's almost impossible for someone to be happy with everything going on. It doesn't mean they don't like it in general though.

Do you want long reigns? You didn't like that with Cena.

But Cena is so boring.

Do you want surprises? You didn't like that with Edge

I do . Edge should get a long title reign, like the Cena one. I'd like that lots better than Edge getting random titles for a month and Cena being boring for a year.

Do you want some good mat work in a match? That's why HHH & Kosolov were booed at Survivor Series.

No, Koslov was booed because he's shit.

Do you want lots of flippys? That's why people have been annoyed a Jeff Hardy for years (among other drug related incidences).

I don't think 'flippys' is the reason Hardy is disliked, at all. I don't actually know why he is..hmm.

So ladies and gentlemen I simply ask you...what do you want in your wrestling?

It's impossible to answer this, because you'll never please everyone, and people come on here to say what they don't like - no problem with that. It's usally more fun to complain anyway. The thing to remember is that WWE do everything for a reason - usually ratings. It's the reason Cena is the one pushed down our throats, as opposed to someone I'd prefer. But as long as people remember that, it should stop them 'hating' WWE, and turn it into a simple opinion.

 

[CDR]

I want long title reigns. I want long title reigns held by a heel. The title does change too much and that takes away from how much the title is worth. If John Cena turned heel and won the belt from Edge, I'd like him. If he kept the belt for over a year, I'd like him. If he did only six moves during his matches, I wouldn't like him. I like good mat work. Guys like Benoit knew how to do it. Shawn Michaels sure knows how to do it, but too much other superstars don't. And that's a damn shame. If you're asking for exactly what I want, I want a heel to have the title for over a year, and actually know how to wrestle. If that happens, I'll be satisfied.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Thank you for asking about what I want, FLUK . Simply put, I just want a show that recognizes, through its storylines, that it has an adult audience. I think NoFate007 articulates things a lot better than I do, and the one thing I want that he wants as well is for WWE to stop insulting my intelligence. Furthermore, would it hurt them to put just one or two adult themes into the mix for a few storylines? And, no, before you get on me about WWE being TV-PG, I am not talking about T&A, blading, drug and alcohol use, and cussing. I am talking about storylines akin to the ones involving Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho this past year. That is to say, storylines that are sympathetic to the problems adults face in everyday life (e.g., questioning our value to the organization we work for or worrying about providing for our families).

 

[CCS]

I hate short less than one month long title reigns. It doesnt do anyone any good by winning a title then losing it less than a month later. It makes what great wrestlers from the past look like shit. Does anyone remember when Shawn Michaels boyhood dream came true at wrestlemania by winning the WWE title? Does anyone remember Ricky Steamboat becoming NWA world champion after trying so hard for so long? well, if you do remember classic moment like that you should be pissed. Winning titles like Edge wins them makes what former champions of the past look like crap. I hate short title reigns, and their's no need for them.


Long title reigns do not bother me. They add a lot of prestige to the title and the wrestler. Title reigns over six months long are usually very enjoyable. You get multiple title feuds, you have a definantive top guy, and you get prestige added to the world title. You cant go wrong with a long title reign. (The only expetion is if the title holder fails miserably)

 

[The Hiphopapotamus]

I want the title reigns to be:

1) Meaningful:If a title is held for a day,what is the point.Why bother.It is more of a blemish on the record then a title reign.There can be no more SPAR(Stupid Pointless Annoying Reigns).Someone who misses say an episode because of a holiday can't come back and say "Why isnt X the champ,he just won it" and to be replied with "Oh yeah, Y beat him the next day".In a week,you forget he was a champ,hence a SPAR.

2)Interesting:I have no problem witha long title reign aslong as it is interesting, but if a guy has a title for 10 months and defends rarely,what i like to call a booker or a benjamin,is as much of a SPAR as a day old reign.the same as previously,if you miss an episode,you just say"So X is still champ anyway."Except worse because it puts you to sleep.

So to conclude,no more SPAR