What Does Bischoff/Hogan's New Promotion - Which Sam Will Call PN3 - Mean For TNA?

[Uncle Sam]

I was thinking about this the other night.

As you all will probably know, Bischoff and Hogan - as well as potentially some other big names such as Bill Goldberg and Rob Van Dam - are making their own wrestling promotion. I am not asking you for your thoughts on that particularly. It already has its own thread. I'm just wondering what effect it will have on TNA.

Certainly, I think that unless the wrestling pie suddenly increases in size, and Bischoff's promotion gets serious success, the two are going to have some trouble sharing the same piece. Could they co-exist? Definitely. Will they (provided PN3, as I'll now call it, gets success) co-exist? Questionable.

Of course, it's currently TNA's role to pick up the big stars or former big stars and to bring up the talented indy wrestlers. Of course, there's no bigger star than Hulk Hogan and few bigger than Bill Goldberg, so they've trumped TNA in that department.

I'm putting too much thought into this for the OP. You try.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Personally, I think TNA is fragile enough that if this promotion wants to, they could very well destroy it. Now, that's not in the sense that they'd immediately become so much more popular that nobody will care about TNA....its just in the sense that they'd be able to take some of the TNA guys (or even go up against TNA in the ratings, maybe) and the two smaller promotions would be battling it out for 2nd place so much that they'll both go down.

I don't think they'll be able to even touch the WWE.

 

[anonymous]

Honestly, I don't think that this new potential wrestling promotion will have any real effect on TNA and I will explain why. For one, TNA has been around for six years now with a rating of 1.0 to 1.2 which I feel means that that is THEE established fanbase that they have. Also, if this new wrestling promotion comes to fruition, what timeslot will it have? There is already RAW on Monday, ECW on Tuesday, TNA Impact on Thursday, and Smackdown on Friday. In regards to PPV, there are already 2 wrestling PPVs a month-one from WWE and one from TNA, and that does not even include the monthly UFC PPV that does take away from wrestling's PPV buys. Adding a third will only oversaturate the wrestling product that is already there. Speaking of oversaturation, having a third wrestling promotion at this period of time will only increase the oversaturation. Also, wrestling right now is NOT in an upswing, so it may not be a good time to have a third wrestling program. The thing with TNA also that they have done a pretty good job in is that they have continuously promoted the TNA namebrand meaning that no one wrestler or person is more important than the TNA namebrand. Even if say Kurt Angle left TNA tomorrow, TNA most likely would not die. Also, I can't imagine a third organization getting too much name value talent simply because there aren't that many name value talent out there. This new organization would have to establish their own namebrand which takes A LOT of time. All in all, I do not think that a new promotion, even if it is run by Eric Bischoff, would really hurt TNA.

 

[K Bro 30]

I disagree, just because you know Bischoff. There were reports of Batista being unhappy with WWE, you know Bischoff would go after him in a second. There is no one greater than Hulk Hogan. Goldberg coming back to someone who knows how to use him. and Rob Van Dam. Think about it, there were 3 giant wrestling promotions (WWF, WCW, ECW). Hogan is the biggest figure in WWF/E history. No one dominated WCW the way Goldberg did. And in my opinion, Van Dam was the face of ECW. I personally was a big wrestling fan in the mid-late 90's, that was when I enjoyed it most, and those are 3 guys I would love to see. Granted, I could go on about this promotion, but I'll do that in it's own thread. However as for it effecting TNA, I think they could get the star power to become a threat. And if any guys were to leave TNA, I know Bischoff would be quick to sign and hype them.

 

[SpiralHands]

I cant see the promotion really existing because the wrestling fans just arent there anymore unless PN3 does something new and different however where does TNA fit in this? Well TNA has bene around for a while now and has a solid base I could either see PN3 trying very easily to shut it down and compete with WWE which im sure Eric would love but on the other hand it could majorly help TNA if they could co exist and run angles between each other that would be something new in wrestling specially with big names like Hulk Hogan and Goldberg who im amazed TNA hasnt tryed harder to gain. That surely would send thier popularity through the roof, so PN3 with TNA good without TNA, bad!

 

[finoj05]

Would it effect TNA? At this point - NO. TNA is well established enough that by the time Bischoff's promotion gets off the ground, if they make ANY impact at all, TNA will be so far ahead of them branding and money wise it won't even matter. TNA is FINE.

Now, question is, could it help TNA? Well when Bischoff was buying WCW in 2001, he said he would like to do interpromotional events with WWE. Would Bischoff do that with TNA? If Yes, then it could actually help TNA. If TNA and Bischoff's company worked together once a year, they could gain traction and if they are funded well, could start stealing name stars from WWE and a war on one of the week nights in prime-time could happen.

 

[Sticky]

Bischoff/Hogan's wrestling project will properly won't be successful. One, Goldberg's short return to wrestling will properly be short, I don't see him coming back for long, plus I think TNA or WWE will pick up RVD back into the mix of things or even an ROH apperance might be nice. Besides it's not like two wrestlers are going to change to entire landscape of one promotion. It'll take more than that.

 

[Uncle Sam]

You seem to be underestimating Hulk Hogan - indisputably the biggest and most consistent draw in wrestling history. If one man can change the shape of the wrestling landscape, it's that man. He's done it twice already. Will he create a new wrestling boom? He doesn't need to. To overtake TNA, you need to create a new wrestling fart. A wrestling pop. A wrestling flash in the pan. Spark a little bit of interest.

I certainly hope it overtakes TNA and its shitty main events with Kevin Nash in them.

 

[ronthony717]

I'm hoping that the pn3 lol does happen and become something and compete with tna just because it would good for tna... And even for wwe and the rest of the wrestling world... Cause then this would be round two for wwe. Wwe won round one by taking out wcw and ecw.. Now they'll have competition again and seeing how bischoff works and the amount of fan base hogan has they can create something massive.. They can create stars maybe use some of their celebs to create buzz and then tna will start putting the pencils to paper harder then ever and give us the best they can cause they need the competition to prove to everyone they can get close to wwe and I really think that it will be great to have 3 top companies going at it once again

 

[anonymous]

You seem to be underestimating Hulk Hogan - indisputably the biggest and most consistent draw in wrestling history. If one man can change the shape of the wrestling landscape, it's that man. He's done it twice already. Will he create a new wrestling boom? He doesn't need to. To overtake TNA, you need to create a new wrestling fart. A wrestling pop. A wrestling flash in the pan. Spark a little bit of interest.

I certainly hope it overtakes TNA and its shitty main events with Kevin Nash in them.

Hogan's track record is NOT as great as you think. The last time that he won the WWE Title a couple years back, WWE ratings went down A LOT. An appearance here and there by Hogan makes him fresh, but having him on a consistent basis eventually gets old. I mean, what can you really do with Hogan? Do you really think he would do jobs in his own promotion? The same goes for Goldberg. I keep hearing that he would help this new promotion if he was signed. However, Goldberg has been out of the spotlight for YEARS. I have to put into question his drawing ability at this time because he has been so far removed from wrestling for a long time and has hardly been in any type of mainstream publicity. Saying that you hope that anything overtakes TNA is asinine because getting rid of TNA would mean less work for these performers. The more places for wrestlers to have work, the better. In the case of TNA, some of these workers like a Petey Williams or Samoa Joe would never have mainstream exposure if not for TNA. Look, I am a huge TNA fan but I totally hated the ending of the main event of BFG as well. However, that does NOT mean that I would like to see TNA get overtaken. If I don't like something then I don't watch it, yet I do NOT wish it to go away because it will go away in my eyes and my eyes only if I just don't watch it. You should do the same.

 

[Sticky]

I'm hoping that the pn3 lol does happen and become something and compete with tna just because it would good for tna... And even for wwe and the rest of the wrestling world... Cause then this would be round two for wwe. Wwe won round one by taking out wcw and ecw.. Now they'll have competition again and seeing how bischoff works and the amount of fan base hogan has they can create something massive.. They can create stars maybe use some of their celebs to create buzz and then tna will start putting the pencils to paper harder then ever and give us the best they can cause they need the competition to prove to everyone they can get close to wwe and I really think that it will be great to have 3 top companies going at it once again

Actually the real name is Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling. Noting the word celebrity you know it's going to fail and it's properly going to be all Celebrities. I don't see how this works for Hogan and Bischoff. It's really fully sports-entertainment it's more like an experiement to train celebrities to be wrestlers. So no worries for TNA or WWE.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

I think it could hurt TNA. TNA's claim to fame was the X-Division. Then they gained the elite Tag Team and Women's Divisions in Pro Wrestling.

However creative has really shelled the Tag Team Division by rarely showcasing its talents. Then they made the X-Division take a back burner to the slightly less popular Heavyweight Division which has a few big stars but is far less exciting.

The TNA creative (Namely Vince Russo) has really hurt the company by not showcasing the full array of talent in the Tag Team and X-Divisions in matches without run ins to ruin them.

Unfortunately if Bischoff plays his cards right he could cause damage.

 

[THE Madcap]

I cant beleive we're having this discussion...

Does this roster http://www.cmt.com/shows/series/hulk-hogan-celebrity-wrestling/cast.jhtml really scare anyone in TNA?

Put things in perspective here... for HHCCW to overtake TNA, they'd have to consistently beat them in ratings, sell a wide range of dvds & merchandise, have a sell out UK tour followed by a potentially sold out tour in the biggest arenas the UK have to offer, release a successful (albeit shit) video game and at the same time keep things fresh and innovative.

I fail to see how they will manage even the last two points with a roster consisting of hasbeens in all walks of the entertainment industry.

 

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

I cant beleive we're having this discussion...

Does this roster http://www.cmt.com/shows/series/hulk-hogan-celebrity-wrestling/cast.jhtml really scare anyone in TNA?

Put things in perspective here... for HHCCW to overtake TNA, they'd have to consistently beat them in ratings, sell a wide range of dvds & merchandise, have a sell out UK tour followed by a potentially sold out tour in the biggest arenas the UK have to offer, release a successful (albeit shit) video game and at the same time keep things fresh and innovative.

I fail to see how they will manage even the last two points with a roster consisting of hasbeens in all walks of the entertainment industry.

Um, the thread wasn't referring to the Celebrity Wrestling project that Hogan and Bischoff are doing, it was referring to the rumorred new promotion that Eric Bischoff has been saying that he ans Hogan are shopping around. The one that would include a base of Hogan, Goldberg, and Van Dam. Hogan has been beefing back up a little. Goldberg announced that he was getting back into wrestling shape saying that it was not for TNA or WWE, and Van Dam has stayed in great shape. And Bischoff has been brushing the rust off of his creative juices and getting geared to be serious about the project.

But what will this mean for TNA is nothing but progression. As well known vets get dropped out of the favor of both TNA and WWE, they would go here. And while that may lead to some ratings, it will force TNA to come away from their comfort zone and search for other means to staff it's product. Of course, it would go to the indy scene and international federations and bring new stars to the spotlight, as it began to do during it's heyday, but I think that TNA would also finally explore the possibility of contracting a farm system, much as WWE has done. This would enable TNA to develop their own talent and to sync indy talent with their style while protecting their investments from suddenly jumping to the competition.

I mean we all know Bischoff's way of doing things. He signs the best or most well known talent available and starts from there. And this would certainly include many of the talents that people claim that are doing nothing to help TNA and are just viewed as "cast offs". And besides, who knows, perhaps Bischoff could finally coax Brock Lesnar or Bobby Lashley into returning to the squared circle briefly. Hogan is quite the influence when it comes to things like that, and there are only a handful of wrestlers who grew up not idolizing him. And in all, I think that a third promotion would shake things up. And we all know that;s the type of environment that Vince Russo likes to churn out his creative juices in. So it will be good for all.