Video Games played with different heroes

[Dagger Dias]

I don't think this has been done before. If it has, feel free to merge it.

How cool would it be to play through one of you favorite games, but with the hero replaced by a hero from a different game? For example.... what if you played through Zelda 1 as Mario instead of Link? Changing who the main hero of the game is would change up the story and the gameplay in a big way. Separate abilities would be available, and nobody would know who the new hero is.

For my example I'll put Mario (Mario Bros 1 version) into Zelda 1. It would affect gameplay in a few ways. While the side-view rooms with items would retain a view familiar to Mario, the world map and temples would be tougher because Mario could not face upward or downward in his Mario Bros 1 version. Link in Zelda 1 could. The only other important character in Zelda 1 is Zelda herself, and she'd wonder who Mario even is, let alone why he'd save her. Mario found the Zelda 1 world by taking the wrong warp pipe in warp zone!

1. If you could play through a video game with a hero from a different game, then what game would it be and what hero from another game would you replace him/her/it with? (it cannot be someone from the same series, such as putting Final Fantasy 4's Cecil into Final Fantasy 7). If that character has been in multiple games, pick a version of them from one particular game.

2. How would this affect gameplay? Would it make it easier? Harder? Why or why not?

3. How would the new hero's existence in that world be explained? Did they find the world by exploring, get teleported there somehow, or something different? Get as creative as you can on this one!

4. How would other important characters from the game interact with the new hero VS the old one?


Remember to include why in your posts, this is a non-spam section after all. This ought to get interesting, so let's see what you guys have as responses. Discuss!

EDIT: I forgot to mention something. The hero of the game no longer appears in the game at all. Other characters still know who the hero is, but he/she/it never shows up anymore due to getting replaced by whoever you put into the game in their place. For example: When I put Mario (Mario bros 1 version) into Zelda 1.... the characters and enemies still know who Link is.... but Link never shows up in the game. Hope that clears up some of the confusion on the rules of this discussion.

EDIT 2: Debating about inevitable encounters between characters IS highly encouraged, and I won't consider it as "off topic".

 

[Davi323]

1. I would be Kratos from God of War II, and he would be teleported by the gods into Ocarina of Time.
2. This would definitely affect gameplay. It would make it helluva lot easier. Kratos is able to move in all dimensions, just like Link, so their wouldn't be any issues that way...If he can ride Pegasus, he can ride Epona. Kratos can do anything Link can do in the game, but he can do it better, and more violently. Plus, being able to slow down time would be a major advantage in taking down Ganon at the end. Kratos' weapons would demolish anything from Hyrule quite quickly.
3. Ummmmmm...Kratos pissed off the gods of Olympus so much, not only did they cast him out of Greece, but they cast him entirely out of the Sonyverse. Being cast out of the Sonyverse, Kratos had to find an alternate reality, known as Nintendoland. Kratos wandered Nintendoland far and wide, and eventually found his way to the mystical land of Hyrule.
4. This is the easiest aspect to answer. How would they interact with Kratos? They would die. End of story.

 

[Furyof5]

1. If you could play through a video game with a hero from a different game, then what game would it be and what hero from another game would you replace him/her/it with? (it cannot be someone from the same series, such as putting Final Fantasy 4's Cecil into Final Fantasy 7). If that character has been in multiple games, pick a version of them from one particular game.

I would place Link from Majora's Mask into Final Fantasy 7. Ive always wanted to see Link vs Sephiroth and he seems like he would fit well into the environment.

2. How would this affect gameplay? Would it make it easier? Harder?
Why or why not?

If Link's weapons and abilities were put in place of Clouds and he were to find the items from MM though out the world it would make the game easier because his items and powers are more powerful than those of the ones acquired in FF7.

3. How would the new hero's existence in that world be explained? Did they find the world by exploring, get teleported there somehow, or something different? Get as creative as you can on this one!

Link leaves the Lost Woods at the end of Majora's Mask to find that he has now entered the FF7 universe. He attempts to go back in but keeps returning to the same spot. realizing he is trapped there he sets out on a journey to discover a way home.

4. How would other important characters from the game interact with the new hero VS the old one?

I would assume that they wouldnt even notice since Link would take the place of Cloud's existence. I suppose their could be a quick meeting period, and maybe Link could fight Cloud for the chance to return home at the end of the game, which would be pretty cool.

I think overall the idea sounds solid.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I would place Link from Majora's Mask into Final Fantasy 7. Ive always wanted to see Link vs Sephiroth and he seems like he would fit well into the environment.

Sounds like an interesting idea you have there.

If Link's weapons and abilities were put in place of Clouds and he were to find the items from MM though out the world it would make the game easier because his items and powers are more powerful than those of the ones acquired in FF7.

Whoa, there. What? I really must disagree there. The Fierce Deity Mask was cool and all, but Cloud and his materia would wipe the floor with Fierce Deity Link. Now, if Fierce Deity Link were to equip some of the more broken materia found in FF7 then that's a little different. No matter what item from Majora's Mask is used.... I can prove how Cloud would still emerge nearly undamaged, unless of course if Link is in his Fierce Deity Form and uses FF7's Materia to power up more. Feel free to debate this further if you disagree.

Link leaves the Lost Woods at the end of Majora's Mask to find that he has now entered the FF7 universe. He attempts to go back in but keeps returning to the same spot. realizing he is trapped there he sets out on a journey to discover a way home.

Not bad, pretty clever way of explaining how Link got there.

I would assume that they wouldnt even notice since Link would take the place of Cloud's existence. I suppose their could be a quick meeting period, and maybe Link could fight Cloud for the chance to return home at the end of the game, which would be pretty cool.

They would indeed notice. Check the spoiler tag for more info on why.

Spoiler

Aeris and Tifa both have feelings for Cloud. Cloud's not there anymore. How would the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris love triangle look now that Link has taken Cloud's place at the start of the game? Will he develop feelings for either? Will either like Link? Remember, Cloud is still there until the game begins, that's when you replace him with Link.

Also.... Your Cloud VS Link idea is cool, but it wouldn't work because Cloud's not in the game anymore. I did not specify that in my original post and have editted it to now reflect that rule. I was late to class this morning and forgot to include that, as I was in a hurry.

I think overall the idea sounds solid.

Thanks. Your idea was as well, I'd like to see a little more elaboration though on how Link (Majora's Mask) would interact with the characters from FF7, as character development is such a huge part of storylines in RPG's and changing the hero changes the story BIG TIME.

I personally think that Link would struggle using materia (in the storyline) and his items from Majora's Mask might not be as effective against certain bosses because most of them would be melee oriented and any boss who puts up barriers would have the damage reduced to a much weaker attack. Link would also have a low defence stat unless he becomes the Goron or Fierce Deity forms. Then he would be able to last longer.

 

[Furyof5]

Sounds like an interesting idea you have there.

I think so

Whoa, there. What? I really must disagree there. The Fierce Deity Mask was cool and all, but Cloud and his materia would wipe the floor with Fierce Deity Link.

You realize the mask turns him into a GOD, right?

Now, if Fierce Deity Link were to equip some of the more broken materia found in FF7 then that's a little different. No matter what item from Majora's Mask is used.... I can prove how Cloud would still emerge nearly undamaged, unless of course if Link is in his Fierce Deity Form and uses FF7's Materia to power up more. Feel free to debate this further if you disagree.

Ide love to see how you can prove items from a totally different game would have no effect on a being from another totally different game with no president for your position. The Fierce Deity's Mask turns link into a god. The Double Helix Sword is the strongest sword in the game, as it does 4x as much, now the Great Fairies Sword does as well, but the sword doesnt shoot magical energy blasts like the DH Sword. Also you seem to be underestimating the power of Majora. The creature was more or less a god itself, it had immense magical powers and was very powerful. Now Im not saying Cloud couldnt beat it, Im simply saying that you are underestimating it and the Fierce Deity's Mask.

I also wasnt originally taking that into account either. Link has time manipulation abilities in which he can slow, speed up, or reverse time, he can teleport, the light arrows can kill nearly any enemy in one shot and do massive damage to everyone else, his Gold infused sword is unbreakable as is his Mirror Shield(stated in the game), he can become a Giant with much stronger attacks than Normal Link, he has different masks which give him super speed, invisibility, transform into different creatures with unique skills, and explode.

Link has a lot of incredible powers and weaponry that could make him more than a match for Cloud of Sephiroth.

Not bad, pretty clever way of explaining how Link got there.

Thanks.

They would indeed notice. Check the spoiler tag for more info on why.

Spoiler

Aeris and Tifa both have feelings for Cloud. Cloud's not there anymore. How would the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris love triangle look now that Link has taken Cloud's place at the start of the game? Will he develop feelings for either? Will either like Link? Remember, Cloud is still there until the game begins, that's when you replace him with Link.

Then it simply wouldnt happen or they would have affections for Link, which is creepy because hes like 10-12.

Also.... Your Cloud VS Link idea is cool, but it wouldn't work because Cloud's not in the game anymore. I did not specify that in my original post and have editted it to now reflect that rule. I was late to class this morning and forgot to include that, as I was in a hurry.

K, no problem.

Thanks. Your idea was as well, I'd like to see a little more elaboration though on how Link (Majora's Mask) would interact with the characters from FF7, as character development is such a huge part of storylines in RPG's and changing the hero changes the story BIG TIME.

Well yes obviously, I didnt know you wanted me to write a whole fan fiction here lol. Im guessing he simply takes Cloud's place in the storyline as if he never existed, has an odd relationship with the others and perhaps the love triangle, and leaves like he always does at the end in a tearful goodbye.

I personally think that Link would struggle using materia (in the storyline) and his items from Majora's Mask might not be as effective against certain bosses because most of them would be melee oriented and any boss who puts up barriers would have the damage reduced to a much weaker attack.

Once again I think you are underestimating Link and his powers/weapons, also dont forget he is a master of combat so Melee opponents wouldnt be a big deal, and his magic powers and weaponry would be able to get through the barriers.

Link would also have a low defence stat unless he becomes the Goron or Fierce Deity forms. Then he would be able to last longer.

He has a shield, also dont forget this is an RPG after all so certain weapons will give him added attack boosts, certain tunics a defense boost, the shields will boost defense, the different forms will boost certain things or everything and the Fierce Deity's Mask will boost everything through the roof, as will the Giants Mask.

 

[Dagger Dias]

You realize the mask turns him into a GOD, right?

Yeah, I remember that from when I played the game.

Ide love to see how you can prove items from a totally different game would have no effect on a being from another totally different game with no president for your position.

Simple. Link's in the FF7 universe now, therefore FF7's damage-dealing formulas are now in place for every item.

The Double Helix Sword is the strongest sword in the game, as it does 4x as much, now the Great Fairies Sword does as well, but the sword doesnt shoot magical energy blasts like the DH Sword.

Yeah but it isn't strong enough to break through a powerful enough barrier. For the weakest level of barrier, the Double Helix would be doing 2x rather than 4x the damage of the Great Fairies Sword which would be doing half damage.... and that's for when fighting against something casting the weakest level of barrier.

Also you seem to be underestimating the power of Majora. The creature was more or less a god itself, it had immense magical powers and was very powerful. Now Im not saying Cloud couldnt beat it, Im simply saying that you are underestimating it and the Fierce Deity's Mask.

Sephiroth's One Winged Angel form makes Majora an insect in comparison, regardless of it being powerful enough to be a deity. Therefore I didn't underestimate its power. As for Fierce Deity's Mask.... It WOULD make Link stand a chance, I didn't underestimate it either.

Link has time manipulation abilities in which he can slow, speed up, or reverse time

So does Cloud. Time Magic. Haste, Hastega, Slowga.

he can teleport

Long Range Materia hits anything on the battlefield regardless of where it is.

the light arrows can kill nearly any enemy in one shot and do massive damage to everyone else

Barrier and M-Barrier both take care of the light arrows.

his Gold infused sword is unbreakable as is his Mirror Shield(stated in the game)

True, but that doesn't mean Cloud won't still deal damage when he attacks Link. Remember, they are in the FF7 universe now.

he can become a Giant with much stronger attacks than Normal Link

Barrier negates the melee damage.

he has different masks which give him super speed

Hastega is cast, Cloud now has super human speed too.

invisibility

Long Range combined with materia that increase accuracy.

transform into different creatures with unique skills, and explode.

Barrier and M-Barrier will take care of the melee and magic skills, respectively, of those creatures. As well as the exploding.

Link has a lot of incredible powers and weaponry that could make him more than a match for Cloud of Sephiroth.

Perhaps in the Zelda universe.... I'll wait to respond to this one until I see your reasonings behind why Link would be more of a match than Sephiroth.

Then it simply wouldnt happen or they would have affections for Link, which is creepy because hes like 10-12.

His Goron and Zora forms aren't though. They wouldn't be attracted to either though. The reactions would probably be hilarious though!

Well yes obviously, I didnt know you wanted me to write a whole fan fiction here lol.

Nah. Just wanted a little more info.

Im guessing he simply takes Cloud's place in the storyline as if he never existed, has an odd relationship with the others and perhaps the love triangle, and leaves like he always does at the end in a tearful goodbye.

Nice. I like this.

Once again I think you are underestimating Link and his powers/weapons, also dont forget he is a master of combat so Melee opponents wouldnt be a big deal, and his magic powers and weaponry would be able to get through the barriers.

They could be powerful enough to break through (especially Fierce Deity form) but the barriers would negate and reduce a ton of the damage. We are assuming Cloud and Link have access to their best abilities and equipment right? That means Cloud's Barrier materia is mastered and at its most powerful level.

He has a shield, also dont forget this is an RPG after all so certain weapons will give him added attack boosts, certain tunics a defense boost, the shields will boost defense, the different forms will boost certain things or everything and the Fierce Deity's Mask will boost everything through the roof, as will the Giants Mask.

I took all of that into account. That doesn't change the fact that Cloud has all of the following: Barrier, Knights of The Round, Omnislash, Hastega, and Curaga.... just to name a few.