TNA the land of obvious swerves

[GameOver]

How many times are they gonna do screwjobs and swerves in each taping, it's getting rediculous.

1 PPV full of swerves, a swerve the previous PPV and Impact was full of swerves and thats just the last 4 weeks

Swerves are meant to be realatively rare so they are a suprise, but when it happens several times a month and atleast once a show it loses any impact (no pun intended). I mean who couldn't see Eric staying heel, and Lashley wasn't gonna join the Mafia Zzzzzzzz pretty obvious.

About only semi-suprise was Kong joining MEM not that i saw the PPV as i refuse to pay for there PPV's anymore

NWO whitewash here we come

But na TNA isn't even remotely the same as WCW zzzzzzzzzz

So when is Sting gonna reform NWO red and black and head a group against the Mafia aka NWO B&W <SLAPS FOREHEAD>, and Nash gonna keep coming out week after week doing Shoots on the mic about the "boys in the back" and the poiltics YAWN!!!!!!!!

 

[farlance]

I totally agree yawn, and who isnt seeing the swerve where Joe turnes on MEM saying he was a double crosser the whole time. Maybe they will swerve us and not even do that. That would be the real swerve, if we later find out he is in the MEM legit for the long haul. To top it all off the build for the MEM turning on Sting, which should have been the biggest turn of all had absolutly no buildup whatsoever. Yeah swerves should be few far and between like once a year tops, maybe not even that much. Not every couple weeks. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if all the originals joined the MEM and Sting was in frontline by himself

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I was just waiting for the moment when Eric Young would turn on the TNA originals. Seriously who couldn't see that one coming. I was laughing when Bobby Lashley took out the MEM. Even that breif booing session from the crowd when Lashley hugged Kurt Angle, and Mike Tenay and Don West's shocked reaction wasn't enough to convince me this was a complete surprise. As far as the MEM turning on Sting, I knew this would eventually happen way back when they kicked Bubba Ray's ass, and Sting just stood there and watched. What's next, Booker T is going to admit he's in love with Jenna Morasco. Maybe Mick Foley becomes godfather of the MEM? TNA needs to slow down with the swerves because now it's just becoming laughable.

 

[TomSmithUK]

One of the things I don't get about TNA swerves, is that the commentary team never seem to be surprised. And as far as I'm aware, kayf, the announcers are the most out of the loop of everyone in the building, given they have no backstage pull.

When Taz(z?) debuted with TNA they didn't seem surprised at all, they didn't play up to him at all. When Lashley came out, on Impact, the heel announcer (his name evades me) was all for him when he was shaking hands with Kurt, but was barely outraged at him turning on them? Back when Jerry Lawler was heel, he sold everything, as does JR during any swerve. It's not like calling a match, it's just acting shocked, it can't be that hard surely.

Unless they're expecting the swerve kayf because theres so many

 

[Rated R SuperFan]

I would like to reply to TomSmithUK TAZ joining TNA wasn't a swerve they knoew about it , the whole IWC knew about it The Impact prior to the PPV when the TAZ FTW video played Mike said " We think we know what this means ... we think we know who this means" TAZ joining TNA wasn't a swerve . I will agree with you on the Lashley swerve the announcers weren't acting shocked at all and the heel announcer's name is Don West . There really is little to no kayfabe anymore in the business because of the IWC and all the smarks that use their computers and cell phones to text , blog , post info from all the tapings and house shows it is incresingly hard for anythign in the wrestling business a secret long enough to swerve anyone anymore .

 

[obiwansidisi]

Stop and remember WCW and WWE are respected na... well... WCW was a respected name in the business, and it's going to take TNA a while to get there. They've been around for 7 years, when everyone in the business said they wouldn't last 7 months! They've already outdone, outperformed and outshined that other company. Don't be fooled by the numbers, being in a better venue doesn't mean putting out a better show. The ECW Arena was a tiny Bingo hall, and they packet the house each and every week...

I would like to reply to TomSmithUK TAZ joining TNA wasn't a swerve they knoew about it , the whole IWC knew about it The Impact prior to the PPV when the TAZ FTW video played Mike said " We think we know what this means ... we think we know who this means" TAZ joining TNA wasn't a swerve . I will agree with you on the Lashley swerve the announcers weren't acting shocked at all and the heel announcer's name is Don West . There really is little to no kayfabe anymore in the business because of the IWC and all the smarks that use their computers and cell phones to text , blog , post info from all the tapings and house shows it is incresingly hard for anythign in the wrestling business a secret long enough to swerve anyone anymore .

Nothing is sercret anymore, it's all online...

 

[Spillz3000]

Thank you obiwansidisi! He's right nothing is a surprise anymore. Swerves can be seen a mile away no matter what organization you watch. You guys act like WWE hasn't broadcasted certain things way before they happened. Come on everything is on the internet or news source so it's rarely possible that you'll be surprised unless you stop reading internet rumors and what not.

I mean the only thing WWE does that's different when people are catching on to a story/swerve is that they change it to something even more ridiculous. Everybody knew Christian was supposed to be the one to screw over Jeff Hardy(At least we were all left to believe that). So what does WWE do once they are hip to everybody figuring it all out. They switched it to Matt Hardy which resulted in a failing storyline as to where if the originally intended person which was Christian would have been the guy there could have been way more storyline options.

Sorry guys it's very rare that anybody should be surprised by a "swerve" anymore. The only fault I can give TNA in this case is the fact that there Commentators whether they know what's happening or not should have responded way better to what is going on. I mean I hope Dixie Carter or Jeff Jarrett have a talk with them and tell them to get their shit together. Or better yet have Taz replace one of them and lets see where they go from here. At the end of the day both TNA and WWE need to step it up and try to give us something original. Sorry but I rather see lame swerves than the same damn Main Event for the past 7 PPV's I don't know just me and my opinion.

 

[Boss]

But...But that's what people want isn't it? A shiton of swerves, an assload of gimmick matches, and no heels or faces just "shades of grey" right? I mean nobody watches TNA for that boring wrestling stuff right?

That's at least the vibe I get while watching TNA and come to think about it's kinda insulting.The reason I say this is because TNA seems to aim toward the type of fan that thinks they are wrestling fans but are really fans of crazy stunts and crazier storylines.*

Now don't get me wrong I enjoy crazy nonsensical gimmick matches as much as the next mark, but in moderation. Most hardcore(not casual) TNA fans seem to fall into the category of "stunt" fans who lose interest if their isn't several swerves/gimmick matches/new wrestlers every month.


*see Wrestler you fucking hate thread.

 

[Enigma]

How many times are they gonna do screwjobs and swerves in each taping, it's getting rediculous.

1 PPV full of swerves, a swerve the previous PPV and Impact was full of swerves and thats just the last 4 weeks

Swerves are meant to be realatively rare so they are a suprise, but when it happens several times a month and atleast once a show it loses any impact (no pun intended). I mean who couldn't see Eric staying heel, and Lashley wasn't gonna join the Mafia Zzzzzzzz pretty obvious.

About only semi-suprise was Kong joining MEM not that i saw the PPV as i refuse to pay for there PPV's anymore

NWO whitewash here we come

But na TNA isn't even remotely the same as WCW zzzzzzzzzz

So when is Sting gonna reform NWO red and black and head a group against the Mafia aka NWO B&W <SLAPS FOREHEAD>, and Nash gonna keep coming out week after week doing Shoots on the mic about the "boys in the back" and the poiltics YAWN!!!!!!!!

So why are you watching it then? I'm seriously getting sick of rants like these...no offense.

All wrestling company pulls obvious serves, big deal. WWE does it all the time, Batista gets injured but wins the title...It was obvious he was gonna lose it due to Randy Orton beating him down.

Cena vs. Triple H...Legacy attacks...Obviously it turns into a Triple Threat match...I was right !

Jeff Hardy loses at Night Of Champions...I know I'm right.

TNA at least is entertaining, where RAW isn't. If you don't like how TNA is right now then don't watch it, Kevin Nash/Sting promo from awhile back was the best promo of the year.

Regardless of what anyone says.

 

[Genius_Deadman]

So why are you watching it then? I'm seriously getting sick of rants like these...no offense.

All wrestling company pulls obvious serves, big deal. WWE does it all the time, Batista gets injured but wins the title...It was obvious he was gonna lose it due to Randy Orton beating him down.

Cena vs. Triple H...Legacy attacks...Obviously it turns into a Triple Threat match...I was right !

Jeff Hardy loses at Night Of Champions...I know I'm right.

TNA at least is entertaining, where RAW isn't. If you don't like how TNA is right now then don't watch it, Kevin Nash/Sting promo from awhile back was the best promo of the year.

Regardless of what anyone says.

you say RAW is boring, yet your complaining the same way the other people are. why don't you stop watching RAW? if people stop complaining and stop watching, then TNA becomes what WCW & the original ECW are today: DEAD. complaining is natural and there's nothing wrong with it, maybe TNA will change what it's doing by hearing the fans once in a while. a Sting/Nash best of the year? your kidding, those 2 cut promos as well as they wrestle nowadays and it's not very good at all. that's just my opinion, and it's worth as much as yours

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

Both WWE and TNA have had some very BAD swerves in the last year or so. In my opinion swerves should be reserved for huge moments when people don't expect it. That is the only way to make a swerve work to it's highest potential.

Huge swerves like Kurt Hennig turning on the Horsemen for the NWO.

Hulk Hogan becoming Hollywood at Bash at the Beech and forming the NWO.

Shawn Michaels making everything with Marty Jannetty was on the up and up before kicking him in the face turning Michaels heel and preparing him for his first big push.

These types of swerves that are huge and make impacts that are down right shocking but also fit in the storyline and make you believe. Swerves happen so often anymore that you expect them and they make little impact in the end. Hopefully both companies realize that swerves don't work when they are done too often and in a low profile spot.

 

[GameOver]

WWE does the obvious swerves too i never denied that but they don't do it every friggin show I have a right to bitch and moan just like people have a right to defend something. Thats what this forum is full of.

IF you are sick of the rants why did you bother to post on someone else's observations, which btw obviously i wasn't alone.

I don't go complaining when other people post these stupid when all is said and done topics and this guys is the best in the universe, or WWE is crap TNA is awesome topics and vice versa I just post my opinion which happens to be passionate.

I watch both WWE and TNA, they don't clash in the same timeslot or i wouldn't be watching TNA. WWE does alot of stuff wrong as does TNA i just feel TNA is far worse at the mistakes and poor production value but it's still watchable. Was the same case when WCW and WWF were going head to head.

 

[BradTheGreat]

yes, fablous idea. Cuz who want's to be surprised in wrestling anymore?
Fuck Taz being Joe's mentor, just have Joe say 'oh, nah, that mentor was just in my mind.'

seriously, who complains about to many twists?
WHAT? ERIC YOUNG ATTACKED AJ? THEY'RE ON THE SAME TEAM! MY BRAIN!! IT HUUUURRTS!

 

[mrarmageddon]

Kevin Nash/Sting promo from awhile back was the best promo of the year.QUOTE]

You talking about the one where the MEM turned on Sting and beat him down? That promo was awesome...Nash is still one of the greatest on the mic in wrestling. The way he shouted at Sting about his leadership working, Angle now having the belt and it being about money was brilliant. He did an awesome confrontation with Joe last year where Joe told him to stop riding on his coat tails and Nash said "Rising on your coat tails?....I'M KEVIN NASH!".

TNA does do lots of swerves but I liked the Joe heel one, think it was time to freshen MEM (who I think are awesome btw) up. Now with the introduction of Lashley on the face side things look like they are about to get very interesting. Hope Angle extends his TNA contract even if that means the last we see of Jarrett.

Would love to see Hulk Hogan in TNA, obviously he'd start off as a face but seeing him and Nash together in a dominant stable would be cool.

 

[RH23]

I do like swerves in wrestling but there has been way to many in TNA, but then again Vince Russo is one of the guys on the creative team and we all know how he loves swerves. I thought it was stupid how Samoa Joe turned heel, it completely contradicted what he was doing before.

 

[evilmonkey]

yea bc of all these swerves i cant even watch a tna ppv (FREE) without saying this is too much and it's getting out of hand.

 

[Suneeboy]

You just can't please smarks man, and you never will. No matter what you give them, shoot interviews, swerves, heel/face turns, huge main events, cutting edge promos, etc they will ALWAYS find something to complain about. Let's see you run a fucking wrestling promotion if you have all the answers and you know what fans really want. That's why wrestling promotions take big bags of shit and throw them all over the IWC because its filled with people who will never be happy.

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time. If you are going to still watch the show then why even complain? I don't complain about the WWE anymore, I just don't watch it. If TNA gets lame like the WWE, then I will stop watching that. You don't like swerves or what you call "obvious swerves", then simply turn off the television...do you not have any self control? Instead of trying bash TNA just don't post on the board and let the fans discuss the product and what they like about it, which is what the forum is meant for.

 

[MARYSEPHOENIX]

Let's take a look at some of WWE's and TNA's swerves from this past year:

TNA:
Tara wins title, only to give it back to Love at PPV.
Somoa Joe joins the Main Event Mafia.
Eric Young turns on the fans and becomes a Heel.
Main Event Mafia kicks Sting out.


WWE:
Chris Jericho names Big Show one-half of the WWE Unified Tag Team Championships.
Jeff Hardy wins the World Heavyweight Championship at Night of Champions.
CM Punk cashes in Money in the Bank at Extreme Rules.
Donald Trump buys Monday Night Raw...only to sell it back to Mr. McMahon.
Randy Orton takes out the entire McMahon family..only to loose to HHH at Wrestlemania.



The above swerves prove that both TNA and WWE both use swerves in their storylines. My point is that even though swerves are used very often, they are NEEDED in order to create interest in their audience.