Yes of course he is more suited to todays style, just like Thesz was for all those years back. I thought we were supposed to keep those two eras in tact and then equate other elements.
We're in a TNA ring, a company which didn't even come into existence until a little over 10 years ago. We're comparing these wrestlers in their prime and, in their primes, Cena is far better suited for the match he and Thesz would have, especially in a TNA ring.
Cena is a physical specimen, sells like a drunk bull ye he is a great wrestler HOWEVER the eras are so faaar apart that if I consider all these matches how they would happen in 2015, none of the oldies would even make it past the 3rd round would they?
But that's the only argument I've even seen being made for Thesz. "He worked 60 minutes all the time". Yeah, well, that was what they did at the time. So you're telling me it's okay to give Thesz credit for the time era he worked but not have to suffer any of the drawbacks? That doesn't seem like a very honest argument.
To be honest this is a good question, what year are we playing these matches in our heads? If its today, thats incredible biased to the PG era stars
Well, we're wrestling in a ring of a company which didn't even exist until 2002. Furthermore, Thesz is working against John Cena, who DOES work the modern style, whether Thesz likes it or not.
So Thesz is working against a modern wrestler in a modern region and just can't simply lay around for 60 minutes. I see no where Thesz has an advantage over Cena, aside from the fact people just sometimes like to vote for the oldies because they are old.
Except we aren't treating this tournament like it's modern. We're treating it like a mesh of both past and present, considering both sides.
But you're not. Most of the people who have picked Thesz based on ring work keep pointing to the era he wrestled in. So why should Thesz get credit for working 60 minutes when that was not uncommon during the period he worked, but not have to suffer any of the drawbacks?
That doesn't seem valid at all.
But considering that Thesz was able to adapt his style because the industry implemented a ton of changes over the 4 decades he was active as a major star I'd say he'd fare well in the modern era.
Very possible...but the people who are saying Thesz has the advantage because he laid around on the mat for 60 minutes, because that was the style of the times, have no argument.
Of course not. He didn't have the freedom of expression like modern wrestlers do. he wrestled in a time period where the Athletics Commission still controlled wrestling and imposed a ton of regulations and rules on the sport that do not exist today.
...umm, so? My point is that those who are saying Thesz wins because he worked 60 minutes are being ridiculous. Thesz laid around for 60 minutes. He didn't go full out like John Cena does every night, nor did he have to deal with the incredibly high impact moves someone like Cena doles out.
I know John Cena can take a headlock. Do you have proof Thesz can take a top rope leg drop to the head? I bet not.
In the modern era maybe, but what if you gave Thesz all the modern advances in training, health, diet
But he didn't. What if John Cena was given a 4 year undefeated streak? What if John Cena was 6'8?
The what if game has no place in this matchup. The Thesz supporters want it both ways...they want to credit him for the time period he wrestled, while ignoring all the drawbacks to that argument.
It's a dishonest argument. Either Thesz worked in the era or he didn't. If he did, then he doesn't get those advancements in training, health, diet and his 60 minute matches don't really mean much. And if he didn't work in that era for the purposes of this discussion, then what argument is left for putting Thesz over Cena? None.
John Cena wins this to anyone concerned with legitimacy of their vote. Once you get past the "Thesz is old" sentiment, there's really no valid argument for Thesz at all.